This is aimed at the business market so it would be fairer to compare with with EliteBooks and Latitudes. It is still expensive compared to a Dell 5490 but it doesn't seem so bad. It is also in a market where no one pays list price.
Yeah always makes me laugh when folks comment that have never worked in a Corporate/Enterprise IT level.
At that level you are not just paying for 3000 laptops at $900 a pop. More to it than that. Plus you need to buy from a supplier than can supply say another 500 at the drop of a hat.
"Huh I could get the same from BestBuy for $600!" Good for you buddy!
"Plus you need to buy from a supplier than can supply say another 500 at the drop of a hat"
Exactly that. Consistency of hardware and reliability of supply is something that's hard to appreciate until you've worked with an IT department that just buys whatever's cheapest on the day they need it.
Those Lenovo Flex laptops are an absolute joke. They're true to their name, the plastic is EXTREMELY flimsy and flexible. Keyboard fell apart and speaker stopped working in just the first couple months! Definitely a SUB-PAR laptop that shouldn't exist. Even my DELL INSPIRON is much higher quality??!?!? I bet you upgrading that flimsy plastic frame, breakable speaker and ultra-cheap keyboard would have cost less than $15. In 2019 we shouldn't accept this anymore.
Yes non corporate folks don't realise that staff treat kit like crap. I've seen laptops just 6 months after they were issues out brand new that have wear and tear it would take me 20 years to accumulate if it was my own kit. Most domestic $600 laptops would fall apart within the year.
It has to be built tough, that's why you have the T series Thinkpads and the Latitudes.
I can remember begging the HP reps that visited our corporation about 19 years ago to quit putting stupid plastic flaps and doors over all the ports. "Guys, these here (waggles port cover) they break or fall off after 2 months!!!"
Agreed with others - those specs are make it no more than a $600 USD laptop and that would be pushing the upper limit of reason. Also, physical touchpad buttons would have been nice. There is space below the pad where they could have been placed. Integrating the buttons into the pad, in my opinion, detracts from mobile usability somewhat.
Add on $200 to cover all the things enterprises require (reliability of supply chain and consistency of parts used are the biggest ones) and knock off at least $100 because nobody will buy these at sticker price, and there you have it - a moderately priced business notebook.
Honestly the biggest drawback here isn't the price you pay for the spec you get - it's the terrible build quality of the Tecra series when compared with their competitors.
I get what you're saying, but in the end if no one pays MSRP for these laptops, then the MSRP is incorrect and is too high for the hardware offered -- which was my original point (and I believe the point of others). We're just arriving at the conclusion that they will not sell for the lsited price from different origins.
Toshiba spun them off for all the operating losses and the plan is to slap a cheap-sounding name on the same old boring product. That totally makes sense.
Toshiba spun them off for all the operating losses and the plan is to slap a cheap-sounding name on the same old boring product. That totally makes sense.
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iranterres - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Nine-hundred dollars priced laptop as entry-level? Come on, not even the specs...nandnandnand - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Yeah that's a ridiculous price for meager specs. Expect it to hit $400 next year.BedfordTim - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
This is aimed at the business market so it would be fairer to compare with with EliteBooks and Latitudes. It is still expensive compared to a Dell 5490 but it doesn't seem so bad. It is also in a market where no one pays list price.jabber - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Yeah always makes me laugh when folks comment that have never worked in a Corporate/Enterprise IT level.At that level you are not just paying for 3000 laptops at $900 a pop. More to it than that. Plus you need to buy from a supplier than can supply say another 500 at the drop of a hat.
"Huh I could get the same from BestBuy for $600!" Good for you buddy!
dontlistentome - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
They're going to have kittens when I tell them I spend over $1500 dollars a pop for those specs for my team (Thinkpad X1 Carbon)...Spunjji - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
"Plus you need to buy from a supplier than can supply say another 500 at the drop of a hat"Exactly that. Consistency of hardware and reliability of supply is something that's hard to appreciate until you've worked with an IT department that just buys whatever's cheapest on the day they need it.
nandnandnand - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
HahhahhahAHHhaHahhahIn other words, this is a crappy laptop nobody here will buy, with a FAKE price. It's FAKE NEWS.
nandnandnand - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Practically the same specs are available for $400-$600, except you can find 2-in-1s:https://slickdeals.net/f/13466503
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The only option listed in the table is multitouch, so I guess you have to spend more than $900 to get a touchscreen version.
flyingpants265 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Those Lenovo Flex laptops are an absolute joke. They're true to their name, the plastic is EXTREMELY flimsy and flexible. Keyboard fell apart and speaker stopped working in just the first couple months! Definitely a SUB-PAR laptop that shouldn't exist. Even my DELL INSPIRON is much higher quality??!?!? I bet you upgrading that flimsy plastic frame, breakable speaker and ultra-cheap keyboard would have cost less than $15. In 2019 we shouldn't accept this anymore.jabber - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Yes non corporate folks don't realise that staff treat kit like crap. I've seen laptops just 6 months after they were issues out brand new that have wear and tear it would take me 20 years to accumulate if it was my own kit. Most domestic $600 laptops would fall apart within the year.It has to be built tough, that's why you have the T series Thinkpads and the Latitudes.
I can remember begging the HP reps that visited our corporation about 19 years ago to quit putting stupid plastic flaps and doors over all the ports. "Guys, these here (waggles port cover) they break or fall off after 2 months!!!"
I do miss the docking stations though.
PeachNCream - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Agreed with others - those specs are make it no more than a $600 USD laptop and that would be pushing the upper limit of reason. Also, physical touchpad buttons would have been nice. There is space below the pad where they could have been placed. Integrating the buttons into the pad, in my opinion, detracts from mobile usability somewhat.Spunjji - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Add on $200 to cover all the things enterprises require (reliability of supply chain and consistency of parts used are the biggest ones) and knock off at least $100 because nobody will buy these at sticker price, and there you have it - a moderately priced business notebook.Honestly the biggest drawback here isn't the price you pay for the spec you get - it's the terrible build quality of the Tecra series when compared with their competitors.
PeachNCream - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
I get what you're saying, but in the end if no one pays MSRP for these laptops, then the MSRP is incorrect and is too high for the hardware offered -- which was my original point (and I believe the point of others). We're just arriving at the conclusion that they will not sell for the lsited price from different origins.Flunk - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Toshiba spun them off for all the operating losses and the plan is to slap a cheap-sounding name on the same old boring product. That totally makes sense.Flunk - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Toshiba spun them off for all the operating losses and the plan is to slap a cheap-sounding name on the same old boring product. That totally makes sense.