The owners of the GTX 1660 Ti took one in the **nuggets**, but it's good to see the price/performance curve trending down.
AMD’s Radeon RX 5500 series have a mark on which to aim __ hard to say that nVidia didn't see that coming. The RX 590/580/570's might take a bit of a haircut but good to know that Polaris lives on ...
This always happens, just ignore those comments - an 8 month later comparison of products.
This launch is very good for the mainstream segment, as AMD now has to deliver a compelling product in this price bracket, that has to beat the nvidia counterpart on the perf/$
I'd argue the 1660Ti is still the better choice, it's a full TU116 with the most CUDAs and it's GDDR6 memory has only factory underclocked to run at 12000MHz for 288GB/s, you can easily overclock it to 13000MHz and remove the underclock and get the 336GB/s speed. With my Aorus version, I can easily push it to 13336Mhz for 352GB/s bandwidth.
The GTX 1660 Ti is essentially equal to the GTX 1070 Ti.
Hogwash! The GTX 1660 Ti is clearly a bit faster than a GTX 1070 Ti. I don't have a reference or numbers at hand, but i am confident that an underclocked 1070 Ti will have somwhat lower performance compared to an overclocked 1660 Ti.
Sure, the 1660 Ti owner could also underclock its card (if possible in a similar manner as with 10-series cards). But hey, that's not really the point.
You know any 3 year old GPU can do 4K gaming after some settings tweaks, all that really matters is that it's a relatively recent (within 2 or 3 gens old) and that it's got a ~4GB framebuffer. I'm not really here to diss anyone's budget. If someone's got to make a $500 PC tower budget work, then a $100 used GPU or a "1080p card" seems pretty sensible.
A "1080p" card usually refers to any graphics card that can easily handle 1080p, but struggles with 1440p. Now this assumes high detail of course. You can play 1440p low, or 1080p high, it's your choice really, but I'd rather not have to resort to low settings just to bump my resolution. because what's the point? You gain pixels, but lose detail, which is what pixel gains are supposed to show off...
It's ridiculous because I've been hearing about 4k for so long, and most of us are STILL gaming at 1080p. A 1080p card still costs $229 when most of us have them already. I am not willing to sink that amount of money into something that is already obsolete.
RX570, RX580, and GTX1060 are cheap and plentiful on the used market for $65-120.
"Truthfully, I’m not even sure NVIDIA’s GPU binning operations changed for this product, or if they just had partners slap TU116-300 GPUs on a PCB wired for GDDR6."
I'd assume a bit of tweaking around the edges because of the different memory controllers. Base 1660's can use a chip with a dud GDDR6 controller, 1660S needs that but can tolerate a dud GDDR5 one.
>Instead, this is a pure virtual launch, with all of the cards on the market being partner designs.
Anandtech: where a hard launch is called a paper launch because the chip manufacturer only handed out a paper saying it was now ok to pair the TU116-300 that has been selling for months with GDDR6 instead of making a reference board which nobody needed.
To be sure, virtual does not mean paper in this context. It's actually NVIDIA's official term for a video card launch where they don't make any retail cards of their own. It's not derogatory in any way.
If you're talking bang for the buck, the 2060 is bad. Bang for buck cards would probably be RX570/580 on sale regularly, this new card, then AMD 5700, then 5700x, then the $500 2070 super. The rest of the lineup is terrible performance for the dollar. Used cards are relative bargains. 8GB AMD RX cards are under $100, and used 10 series cards finally dropping again. $400 1080 ti's, and sub $300 1080/1070 ti's are tough to beat.
I replaced a GTX 960 4GB in one of my old systems (6 core 4930k @ 4.5) with a $210 1070 TI 8GB from ebay and my old laptop with an Acer Predator Helios 300 (6 core 9750H paired with 1660Ti 6GB) which I picked up for under $1000 during the Prime deal. What a night and day difference!
I picked up the same Aced Predator during that Prime deal. It outperforms my expectations. I went on a whim without much research because I wanted a basic gaming laptop while traveling for business. It runs my higher end games better than I expected.
Yes, it is quite fast. I also put in an extra 1TB SSD in there and undervolted the CPU even more. I can run all the games on high/ultra. The 144hz IPS panel looks great too with little backlight bleeding.
Have you considered doing tear downs when looking at AiB cards?
For instance another reviewer (Tom's) also had this 1660 Super model and because they did a tear down it was found that it had no heatsink contact of any type over the VRMs, which is likely why a higher fan speed (and therefore noise) is required for this model even with relatively lower GPU temperatures as you are completely relying on the air to cool the VRMs.
While EVGAs warranty service (at least in US/Canada) is lauded their actual designs seem to always have rather questionable elements.
Agree on this making the 1660 Ti a bad deal. A way for NVIDIA to keep the Ti attractive would be to give the Ti 8 GB of GDDR6 RAM, at the same speed or higher as the 1660 Super. Any rumors?
Super cards with 90%+ of the performance of the next level cards for the same price? Just shows that whole line could have come in at a much lower price point, and been profitable. NVIDIA has been getting away with murder since they saw what miners drove pricing to on the last gen graphics cards.
RX 590 still holding its own, in Exodus; the only game on your suite that I actually play, it manages to match this card. And has 2GB more vram for $30 less.
I know this is a bit off topic, but I recently upgraded my 590 to a 5700, and this review actually makes me laugh just how much faster the 5700 is to the 2060, for the same or less money. I don't even know why 2060 is selling, because its RT credentials are questionable, too.
The RX 5700 and 5700 XT are fantastically powerful for the money, basically a 1080 + 10 percent for $350 or a 1080 Ti - 10 percent for $400. Now that partner models are out, you can get a Gigabyte 5700 XT that maxes at 61 degrees at 2000rpm, the coldest GPU I've ever had.
Problem: it crashes randomly once every 2 hours in Chrome, so was returned. Sorry AMD, it has been 3 months since release already. Gotta do better with software. RTX has been out for a year already and is mostly bug free by now.
btw doesn't mean i'm going to go out and waste money on an RTX card's terrible perf/dollar, but it does mean I'll just sit and wait for something new or 2 more driver releases before trying to buy a 5700 XT again. Not going to waste $200 more CAD to get the RTX version that is the same speed.
Just a thought, if the crashing was ONLY in Chrome, I would have just used another web browser. Chrome is sort of like a windowless van with the words Free Candy spray painted on the side filled with sticky handed Google programmers eager for your delicious personal information anyway. I'd put up with crappy Edge or bloated Firefox before letting Alphabet have a freebie by installing their browser on any computer I was planning to do something I wanted to keep to myself.
Turned out it isn't just Chrome, I just meant, even just using Chrome it randomly crashes. I've swapped the Gigabyte 5700 XT for an MSI one, but it might be driver related. And I'm not totally blaming AMD for it, because Windows has been hell with drivers recently. All the Realtek drivers are messed up since the last Windows update... sigh...
Thanks Ryan! Question: Which version of NVENC does the 1660 Super have? Turing's like the 1660 Ti, or (still) Volta like the 1660. I know it's a bit of a niche use case, but some of us like to transcode and compress our 4K footage or stream games live. The Turing ASIC is significantly better at HVEC encoding, so, if the Super has that one, it might be worth looking into for me.
Just adding that Ryan mentioned in the 1650 Super article that 1650 Super also will use TU116, so maybe an even lower cost option to consider? (assuming it can also handle the 4K footage)
Appreciate that, however, NVIDIA used the Volta NVENC in a Turing GPU in the 1650, so if the 1650 Super has an unchanged GPU, it probably still has that backwards hybrid of old NVENC with Turing GPU. Ryan, do you have any updates on this?
Thanks Ryan, and sorry, the 1660 was already "all Turing", so my question was redundant. I meant to ask about the 1650 Super. If that GPU remains unchanged, it still is a cut Turing GPU with Volta NVENC.
Actually 1660 (not super) already has the Turing NVDEC/NVENC, because it's the first card which can handle 8K60P decode with ~70% NVDEC utilization. On 1080/1080Ti (Pascal) this runs at around 40fps and 100% utilization.
I'm surprised nobody said "Fuck DVI" yet. At least about 1/3 of the AIB makers finally dumped that retardo connector. I bought a gigabyte? or something GTX1660 and it was finally a proper card with 3x DP and 1x HDMI.
And monitors could still be made with VGA connectors for 50 more years to come and the U.S. Military just dumped the floppy disk from their nuclear missiles controls. From my of experience, both a work and in private life, this lack of knowledge and desire to upgrade is not an exception but the rule. I have a friend that just turned 30, he knows every social networking trick and settings for his smartphone but connects his laptop to a small monitor via the bundled VGA cable that came in the box. He didn't even know the monitor had a DVI port, or what that even is.
My monitors has VGA, DVI and HDMI. To this day, all the HDMI connections that I have used on PCs and TVs have given me problems of some kind. An interesting problem that I have seen 3 diferent times in 3 diferente places was that in one position the cable gives image problems (small distortions) or in others even the TV loses the image for a couple of seconds every so often. If the cable was reversed, the problem disappeared.
My graphics card has 3 DP and 1 HDMI and I use a DP-DVI converter for my monitor, I don't use the HDMI. I only use HDMI when I connect 2 monitors, one HDMI and the other using DVI
That sounds like a bad HDMI cable. More specifically, one end of the cable is bad and has intermittent connection problems. When you plug the bad end into the laptop it will flake out because the cable is more likely to be bumped or jiggled and the cable is likely bending to the side and pulling on the connector. When you plug the bad end into the monitor the cable is more likely to be straight so it's not putting stress on the connection and it's not get jostled after you plugged it in, and the good end is out where the jostling occurs. Replace that HDMI cable and I bet your problems go away.
It will be interesting to see the effect this has on the market. If a 1660 Super is only $10 more than the "vanilla" 1660 and yet performs closer to the Ti card which is $60 more than the 1660, I can't see anyone buying the1660 now, never mind the Ti. Clearly a lot will come down to the pricing from a individual manufacturers who could now cut the price of the 1660 and 1650, but it looks like there is now competition even between Nvidia cards, let alone competition with AMD.
An OG GTX 1070 is conspicuously absent there... moving on...
While I have a 1070, I heard about people having mounting problems even on top-tier 2080ti with GTA and newer cpus, or a combination of factors. Stutters, low FPS, an whole slew of things.
I wonder how much of these are related to newer AMD Ryzen 3 cpus, motherboards, etc...
Have you run into those issues? Did you update the game with the new launcher? Or are the updates locked, in order to get an apples-to-apples comparison, so you don't have to retest everything?
We’ve updated our terms. By continuing to use the site and/or by logging into your account, you agree to the Site’s updated Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.
Facebook
Twitter
RSS
65 Comments
Back to Article
krazyfrog - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
The chart on the first page says the GTX 1660 SUPER has GDDR5 memory instead of GDDR6.Ryan Smith - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Some days you can't even get the small things right...Thanks!
craxton - Friday, January 17, 2020 - link
the super has gddr6 memory, there chart must be wrong.nevcairiel - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Seems like a healthy boost for only swapping out the memory. Should make a good mid-tier card.Smell This - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
The owners of the GTX 1660 Ti took one in the **nuggets**, but it's good to see the price/performance curve trending down.AMD’s Radeon RX 5500 series have a mark on which to aim __ hard to say that nVidia didn't see that coming. The RX 590/580/570's might take a bit of a haircut but good to know that Polaris lives on ...
PeachNCream - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
How so? The Ti might be a poor choice now that the Super is available for purchase, but that wasn't the case until this week.nathanddrews - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Because *rabble rabble rabble*, that's why.Cellar Door - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
This always happens, just ignore those comments - an 8 month later comparison of products.This launch is very good for the mainstream segment, as AMD now has to deliver a compelling product in this price bracket, that has to beat the nvidia counterpart on the perf/$
This is win for everyone.
Gasaraki88 - Wednesday, November 6, 2019 - link
Ti users can just overclock the memory. I rather have the extra processing cores.Hrel - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
Agreed, 15% is the high end of what you can do, but the TI overclocked should beat this card by a lot more than 3%.dromoxen - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
MAkes you wonder what NV will do for a GTX1660ti Soupa, maybe faster gddr6 and have 8gb of it? or a half assed RT cores added *clsmithj - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
I'd argue the 1660Ti is still the better choice, it's a full TU116 with the most CUDAs and it's GDDR6 memory has only factory underclocked to run at 12000MHz for 288GB/s, you can easily overclock it to 13000MHz and remove the underclock and get the 336GB/s speed. With my Aorus version, I can easily push it to 13336Mhz for 352GB/s bandwidth.The GTX 1660 Ti is essentially equal to the GTX 1070 Ti.
The_Assimilator - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
"The GTX 1660 Ti is essentially equal to the GTX 1070 Ti."HAHAHA keep smoking the good stuff.
Spunjji - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Not sure why the snark - he's correct, an overclocked 1660Ti is roughly equivalent to a stock 1070Ti:https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_...
Of course the 1070Ti owner can probably squeeze a little more out of that card too, but that's not really the point.
Flunk - Friday, November 1, 2019 - link
Comparing stock to overclocked doesn't make sense, if they're both overclocked the 1070 ti takes it.TheSkullCaveIsADarkPlace - Saturday, November 2, 2019 - link
Hogwash! The GTX 1660 Ti is clearly a bit faster than a GTX 1070 Ti. I don't have a reference or numbers at hand, but i am confident that an underclocked 1070 Ti will have somwhat lower performance compared to an overclocked 1660 Ti.Sure, the 1660 Ti owner could also underclock its card (if possible in a similar manner as with 10-series cards). But hey, that's not really the point.
flyingpants265 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
It's another waste-of-time card. What we really needed is an AMD 5600XT for $199. Or something like that. Performing like a 2060, for much less.Ourchasing a 1080p card now is kind of ridiculous, also.
JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Why would purchasing a "1080p card" be ridiculous? What qualifies as a 1080p card? Because it's cheap? Because it's "last gen"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyonSgZiwsE
You know any 3 year old GPU can do 4K gaming after some settings tweaks, all that really matters is that it's a relatively recent (within 2 or 3 gens old) and that it's got a ~4GB framebuffer. I'm not really here to diss anyone's budget. If someone's got to make a $500 PC tower budget work, then a $100 used GPU or a "1080p card" seems pretty sensible.
Xyler94 - Thursday, October 31, 2019 - link
A "1080p" card usually refers to any graphics card that can easily handle 1080p, but struggles with 1440p. Now this assumes high detail of course. You can play 1440p low, or 1080p high, it's your choice really, but I'd rather not have to resort to low settings just to bump my resolution. because what's the point? You gain pixels, but lose detail, which is what pixel gains are supposed to show off...Oliseo - Friday, November 1, 2019 - link
Or you could play 1440 on medium-highIt's nonsense to claim you have to go straight to low going from 1080 to 1440.
As the data in the graphs in the article CLEARLY show.
Try reading the article.
flyingpants265 - Monday, November 4, 2019 - link
It's ridiculous because I've been hearing about 4k for so long, and most of us are STILL gaming at 1080p. A 1080p card still costs $229 when most of us have them already. I am not willing to sink that amount of money into something that is already obsolete.RX570, RX580, and GTX1060 are cheap and plentiful on the used market for $65-120.
DanNeely - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
"Truthfully, I’m not even sure NVIDIA’s GPU binning operations changed for this product, or if they just had partners slap TU116-300 GPUs on a PCB wired for GDDR6."I'd assume a bit of tweaking around the edges because of the different memory controllers. Base 1660's can use a chip with a dud GDDR6 controller, 1660S needs that but can tolerate a dud GDDR5 one.
AshlayW - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
I'm fairly certain the memory controller supports both GDDR6 and GDDR5 concurrentlyDanNeely - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Different IO pinouts seems to require at least some parts to be different.DominionSeraph - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
>Instead, this is a pure virtual launch, with all of the cards on the market being partner designs.Anandtech: where a hard launch is called a paper launch because the chip manufacturer only handed out a paper saying it was now ok to pair the TU116-300 that has been selling for months with GDDR6 instead of making a reference board which nobody needed.
Ryan Smith - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
To be sure, virtual does not mean paper in this context. It's actually NVIDIA's official term for a video card launch where they don't make any retail cards of their own. It's not derogatory in any way.yeeeeman - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
The title of this article should be "Nvidia preparing for Radeon RX5500".Xeres14 - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Not bad. Good for a specific budget but it seems the extra $ for the 2060 is worth it.Showtime - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
If you're talking bang for the buck, the 2060 is bad. Bang for buck cards would probably be RX570/580 on sale regularly, this new card, then AMD 5700, then 5700x, then the $500 2070 super. The rest of the lineup is terrible performance for the dollar. Used cards are relative bargains. 8GB AMD RX cards are under $100, and used 10 series cards finally dropping again. $400 1080 ti's, and sub $300 1080/1070 ti's are tough to beat.Shlong - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
I replaced a GTX 960 4GB in one of my old systems (6 core 4930k @ 4.5) with a $210 1070 TI 8GB from ebay and my old laptop with an Acer Predator Helios 300 (6 core 9750H paired with 1660Ti 6GB) which I picked up for under $1000 during the Prime deal. What a night and day difference!Holliday75 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
I picked up the same Aced Predator during that Prime deal. It outperforms my expectations. I went on a whim without much research because I wanted a basic gaming laptop while traveling for business. It runs my higher end games better than I expected.Shlong - Thursday, October 31, 2019 - link
Yes, it is quite fast. I also put in an extra 1TB SSD in there and undervolted the CPU even more. I can run all the games on high/ultra. The 144hz IPS panel looks great too with little backlight bleeding.limitedaccess - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Have you considered doing tear downs when looking at AiB cards?For instance another reviewer (Tom's) also had this 1660 Super model and because they did a tear down it was found that it had no heatsink contact of any type over the VRMs, which is likely why a higher fan speed (and therefore noise) is required for this model even with relatively lower GPU temperatures as you are completely relying on the air to cool the VRMs.
While EVGAs warranty service (at least in US/Canada) is lauded their actual designs seem to always have rather questionable elements.
eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Agree on this making the 1660 Ti a bad deal. A way for NVIDIA to keep the Ti attractive would be to give the Ti 8 GB of GDDR6 RAM, at the same speed or higher as the 1660 Super. Any rumors?maroon1 - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
It has better performance per dollar than GTX 1660 Ti and even slightly better than GTX 1660Not bad card
Showtime - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Super cards with 90%+ of the performance of the next level cards for the same price? Just shows that whole line could have come in at a much lower price point, and been profitable. NVIDIA has been getting away with murder since they saw what miners drove pricing to on the last gen graphics cards.The_Assimilator - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
"NVIDIA has been getting away with murder since they saw what miners drove pricing to on the last gen graphics cards."And so has AMD. Did you have a point?
AshlayW - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
RX 590 still holding its own, in Exodus; the only game on your suite that I actually play, it manages to match this card. And has 2GB more vram for $30 less.I know this is a bit off topic, but I recently upgraded my 590 to a 5700, and this review actually makes me laugh just how much faster the 5700 is to the 2060, for the same or less money. I don't even know why 2060 is selling, because its RT credentials are questionable, too.
Alistair - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
The RX 5700 and 5700 XT are fantastically powerful for the money, basically a 1080 + 10 percent for $350 or a 1080 Ti - 10 percent for $400. Now that partner models are out, you can get a Gigabyte 5700 XT that maxes at 61 degrees at 2000rpm, the coldest GPU I've ever had.Problem: it crashes randomly once every 2 hours in Chrome, so was returned. Sorry AMD, it has been 3 months since release already. Gotta do better with software. RTX has been out for a year already and is mostly bug free by now.
Alistair - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
btw doesn't mean i'm going to go out and waste money on an RTX card's terrible perf/dollar, but it does mean I'll just sit and wait for something new or 2 more driver releases before trying to buy a 5700 XT again. Not going to waste $200 more CAD to get the RTX version that is the same speed.PeachNCream - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Just a thought, if the crashing was ONLY in Chrome, I would have just used another web browser. Chrome is sort of like a windowless van with the words Free Candy spray painted on the side filled with sticky handed Google programmers eager for your delicious personal information anyway. I'd put up with crappy Edge or bloated Firefox before letting Alphabet have a freebie by installing their browser on any computer I was planning to do something I wanted to keep to myself.Alistair - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Turned out it isn't just Chrome, I just meant, even just using Chrome it randomly crashes. I've swapped the Gigabyte 5700 XT for an MSI one, but it might be driver related. And I'm not totally blaming AMD for it, because Windows has been hell with drivers recently. All the Realtek drivers are messed up since the last Windows update... sigh...maroon1 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
The 2GB more Vram has no benefit on these weak cardsStrangerGuy - Thursday, October 31, 2019 - link
Well, it really depends on local pricing. Over here in Singapore the 580/590/1660 Ti is a massive ripoff versus the 2060 non-S.Anyway all of these new cards are still a perf/$ snoozefest for a 1070 owner like me.
pivejasey - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
The most important benchmark for computing on a nvidia card is tensorflow, and I'm always dissapointedfor getting no data.Ryan Smith - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Hmm. Is there a specific benchmark you'd like to see? And that runs under Windows without extensive work?eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Thanks Ryan! Question: Which version of NVENC does the 1660 Super have? Turing's like the 1660 Ti, or (still) Volta like the 1660. I know it's a bit of a niche use case, but some of us like to transcode and compress our 4K footage or stream games live. The Turing ASIC is significantly better at HVEC encoding, so, if the Super has that one, it might be worth looking into for me.Ryan Smith - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
GTX 1660 Super is TU116, so it has the Turing NVENC block.xrror - Tuesday, October 29, 2019 - link
Just adding that Ryan mentioned in the 1650 Super article that 1650 Super also will use TU116, so maybe an even lower cost option to consider? (assuming it can also handle the 4K footage)eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Appreciate that, however, NVIDIA used the Volta NVENC in a Turing GPU in the 1650, so if the 1650 Super has an unchanged GPU, it probably still has that backwards hybrid of old NVENC with Turing GPU. Ryan, do you have any updates on this?eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Thanks Ryan, and sorry, the 1660 was already "all Turing", so my question was redundant. I meant to ask about the 1650 Super. If that GPU remains unchanged, it still is a cut Turing GPU with Volta NVENC.timecop1818 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
Actually 1660 (not super) already has the Turing NVDEC/NVENC, because it's the first card which can handle 8K60P decode with ~70% NVDEC utilization. On 1080/1080Ti (Pascal) this runs at around 40fps and 100% utilization.Reference: https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-g...
timecop1818 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
I'm surprised nobody said "Fuck DVI" yet.At least about 1/3 of the AIB makers finally dumped that retardo connector.
I bought a gigabyte? or something GTX1660 and it was finally a proper card with 3x DP and 1x HDMI.
Korguz - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
considering monitors are STILL made with vga... thats what they should stop making before they drop dvi...Gastec - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
And monitors could still be made with VGA connectors for 50 more years to come and the U.S. Military just dumped the floppy disk from their nuclear missiles controls.From my of experience, both a work and in private life, this lack of knowledge and desire to upgrade is not an exception but the rule. I have a friend that just turned 30, he knows every social networking trick and settings for his smartphone but connects his laptop to a small monitor via the bundled VGA cable that came in the box. He didn't even know the monitor had a DVI port, or what that even is.
MaikelSZ - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
My monitors has VGA, DVI and HDMI. To this day, all the HDMI connections that I have used on PCs and TVs have given me problems of some kind.An interesting problem that I have seen 3 diferent times in 3 diferente places was that in one position the cable gives image problems (small distortions) or in others even the TV loses the image for a couple of seconds every so often. If the cable was reversed, the problem disappeared.
My graphics card has 3 DP and 1 HDMI and I use a DP-DVI converter for my monitor, I don't use the HDMI. I only use HDMI when I connect 2 monitors, one HDMI and the other using DVI
grazapin - Wednesday, November 6, 2019 - link
That sounds like a bad HDMI cable. More specifically, one end of the cable is bad and has intermittent connection problems. When you plug the bad end into the laptop it will flake out because the cable is more likely to be bumped or jiggled and the cable is likely bending to the side and pulling on the connector. When you plug the bad end into the monitor the cable is more likely to be straight so it's not putting stress on the connection and it's not get jostled after you plugged it in, and the good end is out where the jostling occurs. Replace that HDMI cable and I bet your problems go away.Nirman04 - Wednesday, October 30, 2019 - link
It will be interesting to see the effect this has on the market. If a 1660 Super is only $10 more than the "vanilla" 1660 and yet performs closer to the Ti card which is $60 more than the 1660, I can't see anyone buying the1660 now, never mind the Ti. Clearly a lot will come down to the pricing from a individual manufacturers who could now cut the price of the 1660 and 1650, but it looks like there is now competition even between Nvidia cards, let alone competition with AMD.Larry Litmanen - Friday, November 1, 2019 - link
To me it is wait and see, what if Stadia works.Why spend money on something that will not run any games in 2 years.
My gtx 960 can run games only on lowest settings on a Dell U3415w, it basically stopped running new games around 2017.
The card works it's just it's not powerful enough, frankly I have no desire to spend $220 on something that is useless in 2 years.
dromoxen - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
Too fast development of new gfx cards renders the older cards redundant too soon. I have gtx960 with 4gb for futureproof *sigh* . This HAS to stop.Mweembamcdonald82 - Sunday, November 10, 2019 - link
Please your emailGonemad - Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - link
An OG GTX 1070 is conspicuously absent there... moving on...While I have a 1070, I heard about people having mounting problems even on top-tier 2080ti with GTA and newer cpus, or a combination of factors. Stutters, low FPS, an whole slew of things.
I wonder how much of these are related to newer AMD Ryzen 3 cpus, motherboards, etc...
Have you run into those issues? Did you update the game with the new launcher? Or are the updates locked, in order to get an apples-to-apples comparison, so you don't have to retest everything?
74Junior - Sunday, December 1, 2019 - link
great like it.craxton - Friday, January 17, 2020 - link
curious to if my 37-40c idle temps are norm for a 1660 super sc ultra with 0% fan at idle???craxton - Friday, January 17, 2020 - link
also, 140+ core and +850 memory overclocks added for almost 16gbs memory