Why would they choose a 14nm CPU and a dedicated GPU when they could use their ice lake G7 CPUs with comparable performance and way better battery life and thermals?? Is 10nm still not shipping in volume?
Even if performance is decent, you're talking about a laptop with 8GB of RAM. Sharing that with the iGPU is problematic and even a discrete GPU that only matches the iGPU in power has it's own VRAM.
10 nm Ice Lake obviously still has problems with yield and volume. They are not even used in configurations without dGPU.
All new high volume laptops will be released with Comet Lake (like XPS 13, unlike low volume XPS 13 2-in-1).
+Don't expect too many G7 configs because they are expensive (adding a GF mx might be cheaper and much faster) and disabling GPU EUs is the easiest way to raise yields.
AFAIK, LPDDR4x signaling has much stricter requirements than LPDDR3, so cheaper designs (8GB max, soldered...) will probably just stick with what's easier.
I thought that the selling points of Commet Lake are LPDDR4X and 802.11ax(wifi 6). So I am a bit confused why would Dell update the processor but do not utilize the advantages it could bring in with it?
Why is the Vostro series 5, but Inspiron series 7? Also, NA customers now have the Inspiron 5390, which has an identical design but Whiskey Lake and dedicated LTE modem, launched just this month.
Hi Thank you for the review. I am currently in Japan looking forward to buy this laptop with i7 and dGPU.
One this confuses me is that whether I will be able to charge it using type C cable with a proper charger (I may need to buy). Dell says its a DisplayPort and power delivery but I am not so sure.
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NICOXIS - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
Why would they choose a 14nm CPU and a dedicated GPU when they could use their ice lake G7 CPUs with comparable performance and way better battery life and thermals?? Is 10nm still not shipping in volume?patel21 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
For non-tech users, a laptop with DGPU seems to be a better deal, even when iGPU is as much powerful.Intel also might have something to do with this. As they are promoting ice lake for their Project Athena premium laptops.
IntelUser2000 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
The MX250 is still faster than Icelake. Notebookcheck shows the MX150 showing 50% advantage in games.Also, manufacturers have used dGPUs when the iGPUs were on par. Probably a brand thing. If you can claim it has a dGPU, it becomes a selling point.
@patel21
Comet Lake laptops can also be certified for Project Athena. Of course it might be harder to do so, but it doesn't need to use Icelake.
0ldman79 - Monday, October 7, 2019 - link
Even if performance is decent, you're talking about a laptop with 8GB of RAM.Sharing that with the iGPU is problematic and even a discrete GPU that only matches the iGPU in power has it's own VRAM.
brakdoo - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
10 nm Ice Lake obviously still has problems with yield and volume. They are not even used in configurations without dGPU.All new high volume laptops will be released with Comet Lake (like XPS 13, unlike low volume XPS 13 2-in-1).
+Don't expect too many G7 configs because they are expensive (adding a GF mx might be cheaper and much faster) and disabling GPU EUs is the easiest way to raise yields.
PeachNCream - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
Non-upgradable 8GB RAM for a new laptop with a dGPU, even a low end one like the MX250, seems like a noteworthy detriment to longevity.obama gaming - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
Why only LPDDR3? I thought 10th gen supported LPDDR4Xjeremyshaw - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
AFAIK, LPDDR4x signaling has much stricter requirements than LPDDR3, so cheaper designs (8GB max, soldered...) will probably just stick with what's easier.abufrejoval - Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - link
With a dGPU, RAM bandwidth is no longer a real-world issue: iGPUs eat bandwidth.yuriylsh - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
I thought that the selling points of Commet Lake are LPDDR4X and 802.11ax(wifi 6). So I am a bit confused why would Dell update the processor but do not utilize the advantages it could bring in with it?patel21 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link
because by just using the CPU even without all its advantages, they can benefit from the 10th Gen Intel logo on their laptop.abufrejoval - Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - link
and you can just add a WiFi 6 Intel AX200 M.2 for €13, a colossal €2 premium over the CVNi variants.0iron - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
Now it become more confusing. For 10th gen Core, must mention either Ice Lake or Comet Lake.Isn't it better if Comet Lake is 9th gen?
WPX00 - Friday, August 23, 2019 - link
Why is the Vostro series 5, but Inspiron series 7? Also, NA customers now have the Inspiron 5390, which has an identical design but Whiskey Lake and dedicated LTE modem, launched just this month.poohbear - Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - link
Comet Lake is a rebadged Whiskey Lake with slightly higher speeds! It is NOT 10th gen!! Intel is so deceptive like this.Nipunn - Friday, May 1, 2020 - link
HiThank you for the review.
I am currently in Japan looking forward to buy this laptop with i7 and dGPU.
One this confuses me is that whether I will be able to charge it using type C cable with a proper charger (I may need to buy). Dell says its a DisplayPort and power delivery but I am not so sure.
Can anyone help?
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