I'm definitely not the target customer for this but it's pretty funny that with all the extra plastic design junk on it that this ends up being essentially the same size as a full ATX mid-tower case. GPU airflow looks fairly poor as well.
I think it's going to still be smaller than most full ATX cases. The curved dome top adds a few inches of height, but it puts the PSU inline with the mobo instead of above it, so those more or less cancel out. Front to back should be within normal ranges too since even though 5.25 bays are all but dead and 3.5" drive cages are fading fast very few cases don't still have a few inches of space between the front edge of the mobo and the cases front panel.
I'm not the target market either, but I do agree that the design is pretty bad. In computing, the guts inside the case are all that matters. The box its in can be an uninteresting beige cube for all I care as long as it holds the parts in the right places and is easy to open so it can be cleaned or upgraded.
Taller by about the extra height of full ATX. Wider by enough room to route cables behind the mobo and run a 120mm )140mm?) fan above the IO panel, longer by the size of the 3.5" drive cages it doesn't actually have.
What a horrible design. Look at all that wasted space up top. All that gaudy plastic. And it's a safe bet this thing will cost twice as much as a self built machine with similar internals.
The thing is that self built machines with the same components are not usually cheaper. Main reason because Dell/all the other big companies get huge discounts on Intel CPUs. Stuff that cost 499 for us cost 250 for them. Only with different components you can get a cheaper computer (IE AMD).
I generally don't buy MSRP, there are various ways to buy cheaper components but not a cheaper factory-customized model with very limited distribution channels.
I understand that Intel is still makes the "ultimate" gaming CPUs, but since it lets you choose not only 9900k, but 9700k and all the way down to 9100, why not any Ryzens as well?
Well. The real answer is that customers pay more for Intel than AMD since the retail price is higher. Intel can therefore give huge discounts for their high end CPUs. You ever wondered why AMD isn't killing Intel on X86 servers? Intels list prices are over 10K per high end CPU while AMD cost 1/4 and have more cores. Intel gives huge customers that threaten to go to AMD up to 90% discount on CPUs. It's legal. Not bribes. And for gaming. Intel is actually better IRW (and Gaming is less than 10% of the X86 market. Remember that the ASP of a PC is under 400 dollars. No Ryzen because no iGPU. There is a valid reason why AMD have 15% of the X86 market and less than 4% on X86 servers)
" You ever wondered why AMD isn't killing Intel on X86 servers? " no need to wonder.. performance and features werent there pre Zen based cpus, but Rome, looks to have changed that. " Intel gives huge customers that threaten to go to AMD up to 90% discount on CPUs " there is NO way intel would give that high if a discount, if they did, they wouldnt be making the billions a year they do, and their investers and share holders, would be wanting heads to roll... are you sure that reason is more based on price vs performance ?? with Epyc Rome, that could change drastically, even with the discounts you are assuming. do you really think intel would sell a customer their the Xeon Platinum 8280 that costs $13000, for half of that, or more when the same customer could get a Epyc Rome 7742 for $7000 ??? not even intel would willingly loose that much for a cpu just to keep a customer " Intel gives huge customers that threaten to go to AMD up to 90% discount on CPUs " there is no way intel would give that kind of a discount on its cpus. if they did, they wouldn't be making the billions a year they do, and their investors and shareholders, would be quite upset if they did
That is just weird. Dell kind of missed the point putting the PSu on top of the mATX sized case. It's like the worst of both worlds. Its mATX but ATX sized but without the ATX expandability. This seems like a silly compromise.
Why call it R9 if it's not going to have the Ryzen 9 series processors? I was excited when I read the title, then immediately lost interest when I saw intel.
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Destoya - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
I'm definitely not the target customer for this but it's pretty funny that with all the extra plastic design junk on it that this ends up being essentially the same size as a full ATX mid-tower case. GPU airflow looks fairly poor as well.DanNeely - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
I think it's going to still be smaller than most full ATX cases. The curved dome top adds a few inches of height, but it puts the PSU inline with the mobo instead of above it, so those more or less cancel out. Front to back should be within normal ranges too since even though 5.25 bays are all but dead and 3.5" drive cages are fading fast very few cases don't still have a few inches of space between the front edge of the mobo and the cases front panel.PeachNCream - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
I'm not the target market either, but I do agree that the design is pretty bad. In computing, the guts inside the case are all that matters. The box its in can be an uninteresting beige cube for all I care as long as it holds the parts in the right places and is easy to open so it can be cleaned or upgraded.Mr.Vegas - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
Let compare it vs Phanteks Enthoo Evolv XHeight 48cm vs 52cm
Width 22cm vs 24cm
Length/Depth 43cm vs 52
diehardmacfan - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
Now compare it to a not huge ATX case like an NZXT H500DanNeely - Monday, August 26, 2019 - link
Taller by about the extra height of full ATX. Wider by enough room to route cables behind the mobo and run a 120mm )140mm?) fan above the IO panel, longer by the size of the 3.5" drive cages it doesn't actually have.inighthawki - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
But just think of how big those full ATX cases are with all that extra plastic!TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
What a horrible design. Look at all that wasted space up top. All that gaudy plastic. And it's a safe bet this thing will cost twice as much as a self built machine with similar internals.shompa - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
The thing is that self built machines with the same components are not usually cheaper. Main reason because Dell/all the other big companies get huge discounts on Intel CPUs. Stuff that cost 499 for us cost 250 for them. Only with different components you can get a cheaper computer (IE AMD).s.yu - Friday, August 23, 2019 - link
I generally don't buy MSRP, there are various ways to buy cheaper components but not a cheaper factory-customized model with very limited distribution channels.Gunbuster - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
All those nice CG exploded view images and not a fan in sight. Really Alienware?ajp_anton - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
I understand that Intel is still makes the "ultimate" gaming CPUs, but since it lets you choose not only 9900k, but 9700k and all the way down to 9100, why not any Ryzens as well?AshlayW - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
Maybe because Intel is paying them to not use AMD processors... Déjà vuKorguz - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
or the kick backs/discounts are why there are no ryzens offered.... but to be fair... Dell has always been 99% intel from day one, havent they ??shompa - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
Well. The real answer is that customers pay more for Intel than AMD since the retail price is higher. Intel can therefore give huge discounts for their high end CPUs. You ever wondered why AMD isn't killing Intel on X86 servers? Intels list prices are over 10K per high end CPU while AMD cost 1/4 and have more cores. Intel gives huge customers that threaten to go to AMD up to 90% discount on CPUs. It's legal. Not bribes. And for gaming. Intel is actually better IRW (and Gaming is less than 10% of the X86 market. Remember that the ASP of a PC is under 400 dollars. No Ryzen because no iGPU. There is a valid reason why AMD have 15% of the X86 market and less than 4% on X86 servers)Qasar - Friday, August 23, 2019 - link
" You ever wondered why AMD isn't killing Intel on X86 servers? " no need to wonder.. performance and features werent there pre Zen based cpus, but Rome, looks to have changed that." Intel gives huge customers that threaten to go to AMD up to 90% discount on CPUs " there is NO way intel would give that high if a discount, if they did, they wouldnt be making the billions a year they do, and their investers and share holders, would be wanting heads to roll...
are you sure that reason is more based on price vs performance ?? with Epyc Rome, that could change drastically, even with the discounts you are assuming. do you really think intel would sell a customer their the Xeon Platinum 8280 that costs $13000, for half of that, or more when the same customer could get a Epyc Rome 7742 for $7000 ??? not even intel would willingly loose that much for a cpu just to keep a customer
" Intel gives huge customers that threaten to go to AMD up to 90% discount on CPUs " there is no way intel would give that kind of a discount on its cpus. if they did, they wouldn't be making the billions a year they do, and their investors and shareholders, would be quite upset if they did
FreckledTrout - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
That is just weird. Dell kind of missed the point putting the PSu on top of the mATX sized case. It's like the worst of both worlds. Its mATX but ATX sized but without the ATX expandability. This seems like a silly compromise.drexnx - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
that's the radiator, the psu is where the 5.25 bays used to bedrexnx - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
or maybe it's over the CPU from the back render...the renders are really unclear and somewhat contradictory actually...
AshlayW - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
Tacky.drexnx - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
under all that gaudy plastic it's just another silver box :\[email protected] - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link
This is so ugly and so much wasted space with plastic lol. Compare this garbage to clean case designs like the H510i or H210i.SSK84 - Friday, August 23, 2019 - link
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Ahhh, to make it look expensive. They could do much better on the lighting thoughurbanman2004 - Saturday, August 24, 2019 - link
Prices are meh, and most of the lineup is nothing to get excited a/b. No freaking Ryzen, smh.wrkingclass_hero - Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - link
Why call it R9 if it's not going to have the Ryzen 9 series processors? I was excited when I read the title, then immediately lost interest when I saw intel.denisfrancis - Wednesday, October 6, 2021 - link
I just love this gaming pc by dell. Love its futuristic design!https://blogs.beingawaisali.com/blog/best-gaming-p...