The problem with allowing companies like Micron to use more advanced technologies is that with more DRAM per DIMM, this will create an oversupply situation and push costs downward. Companies like G.Skill and Corsair won't get as much profit per unit and will have to more heavily reply on things like water cooled + RGB modules in order to maintain an acceptable profit margin for all of those struggling C-Level leaders so they can scrape by with modest, multi-million dollar annual bonuses and golden parachutes. This is an unacceptable situation that requires heavy-handed regulatory involvement from national governments to fix. They need to FORCE companies to stop doing R&D right now!
Do you want more expensive DRAM? If these companies don’t push the next node to reduce cost they go bankrupt. If that happens to Micron Technology, then S. Korea has a duopoly and prices will rise.
I agree. That's why I put it in my comment to give people that have a clue that they shouldn't take me seriously. But don't worry, there's someone a few comments down named eddman that also didn't get it.
I don't regularly read the comments, so I have no idea who you are. There are a lot of morons that write exactly like you, and if your comment can be mistaken for one of those, then perhaps you aren't as clever as you think you are.
You are welcome to be offended and upset. Its to be expected that out of any group of people there will be humorless sorts that want things to be a certain way and it grinds their gears when the world does not adhere to their expectations.
What a pompous statement. You defensively insist that other people must be "offended and upset" just for critiquing your pedestrian attempt at satire and pointing out that it adds to the noise component of the signal/noise ratio here. An individual with thicker skin would take it on the chin; you went with projection and posturing. Poor show.
@Ashinjuka Yep, I guess someone missed the <irony alert> tag in the beginning of that comment, but I bet all of the ElReg readers here saw it immediately.
You want the governments to artificially hinder technological advancements?!
Companies have been moving to smaller nodes for many years and yet ram module makers are still around. They keep making money because the higher capacity modules gradually replace the lower capacity ones in their respective price brackets, people/businesses keep buying them, and the wheel keeps turning.
Yes. Yes I do. It's stupid that companies are allowed to conduct research without first requesting and obtaining approval from the government of their parent nation. Simply allowing technological advancement to happen naturally as a result of human curiosity is as dangerous and short-sighted. Consider how many airline crashes we could have avoided if someone with half a brain would have brought the hammer down on those Wright brothers back in the early 1900s. Humans were not meant to fly and Icarus already figured that out for us so there's no reason to have to learn that lesson again so many times. And then there's Facebook and that one guy with the dumb hair that now posts comments on Twitter. If we hadn't invented birds, he wouldn't have access to Twitter (which in a small way goes back to flying, but I digress). So no more Twitter! And we may as well get rid of indoor plumbing too so I don't have to run one of those ventilation fans in my bathroom because my bathroom is an outhouse instead.
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PeachNCream - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
The problem with allowing companies like Micron to use more advanced technologies is that with more DRAM per DIMM, this will create an oversupply situation and push costs downward. Companies like G.Skill and Corsair won't get as much profit per unit and will have to more heavily reply on things like water cooled + RGB modules in order to maintain an acceptable profit margin for all of those struggling C-Level leaders so they can scrape by with modest, multi-million dollar annual bonuses and golden parachutes. This is an unacceptable situation that requires heavy-handed regulatory involvement from national governments to fix. They need to FORCE companies to stop doing R&D right now!Adramtech - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
Do you want more expensive DRAM? If these companies don’t push the next node to reduce cost they go bankrupt. If that happens to Micron Technology, then S. Korea has a duopoly and prices will rise.yuhong - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
Personally, I agree that 8Gbit DDR4 shrinks are not that interesting though, compared to 16Gbit DDR4.Papaspud - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
Did you hear the whoosh as his comment went over your head?PeachNCream - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
There is always someone that misses comments like these which is mainly why I make them.Adramtech - Saturday, August 17, 2019 - link
Forced r&d reduction is ludicrousPeachNCream - Saturday, August 17, 2019 - link
I agree. That's why I put it in my comment to give people that have a clue that they shouldn't take me seriously. But don't worry, there's someone a few comments down named eddman that also didn't get it.eddman - Saturday, August 17, 2019 - link
I don't regularly read the comments, so I have no idea who you are. There are a lot of morons that write exactly like you, and if your comment can be mistaken for one of those, then perhaps you aren't as clever as you think you are.Ashinjuka - Sunday, August 18, 2019 - link
+1This type of "lol jk" trolling adds nothing to discussion and overall makes the room dumber.
PeachNCream - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
You are welcome to be offended and upset. Its to be expected that out of any group of people there will be humorless sorts that want things to be a certain way and it grinds their gears when the world does not adhere to their expectations.eddman - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
So just because some people don't find YOUR humor funny, they are humorless?Spunjji - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
What a pompous statement. You defensively insist that other people must be "offended and upset" just for critiquing your pedestrian attempt at satire and pointing out that it adds to the noise component of the signal/noise ratio here. An individual with thicker skin would take it on the chin; you went with projection and posturing. Poor show.PeachNCream - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
Speaking of projection. Pot, meet kettle.eddman - Tuesday, August 20, 2019 - link
Come off it.jmourato - Friday, December 20, 2019 - link
@Ashinjuka Yep, I guess someone missed the <irony alert> tag in the beginning of that comment, but I bet all of the ElReg readers here saw it immediately.lol
rangerdavid - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
Absolutely. A very smart and rich man once said that nobody will every need more than 128k of RAM. It's been downhill ever since.PeachNCream - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
You're misquoting the misquote.https://www.computerworld.com/article/2534312/the-...
eddman - Saturday, August 17, 2019 - link
You want the governments to artificially hinder technological advancements?!Companies have been moving to smaller nodes for many years and yet ram module makers are still around. They keep making money because the higher capacity modules gradually replace the lower capacity ones in their respective price brackets, people/businesses keep buying them, and the wheel keeps turning.
PeachNCream - Saturday, August 17, 2019 - link
Yes. Yes I do. It's stupid that companies are allowed to conduct research without first requesting and obtaining approval from the government of their parent nation. Simply allowing technological advancement to happen naturally as a result of human curiosity is as dangerous and short-sighted. Consider how many airline crashes we could have avoided if someone with half a brain would have brought the hammer down on those Wright brothers back in the early 1900s. Humans were not meant to fly and Icarus already figured that out for us so there's no reason to have to learn that lesson again so many times. And then there's Facebook and that one guy with the dumb hair that now posts comments on Twitter. If we hadn't invented birds, he wouldn't have access to Twitter (which in a small way goes back to flying, but I digress). So no more Twitter! And we may as well get rid of indoor plumbing too so I don't have to run one of those ventilation fans in my bathroom because my bathroom is an outhouse instead.Dug - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
You have to get rid of ponies too.PeachNCream - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link
Agreed, ponies were a terrible invention!jmourato - Friday, December 20, 2019 - link
+1descendency - Friday, August 16, 2019 - link
Is 1Z nm process the equivalent of 10nm++? (semantically)DanNeely - Saturday, August 17, 2019 - link
no.For whatever reason the memory makers decline to make actual process sizes public. All we know is that: 9.9nm < 1z < 1y < 1x < 20.0nm
azfacea - Saturday, August 17, 2019 - link
we need ECC mens))