Need for phone's internal storage, but please leave a microSD slot so I have a place to dump additional files. 256GB is not really enough for a mobile device these days.
I just don't get this fetish for making and carrying around masses of data. Why burden yourself with all this crap? If I see someone like that I feel pity and sick to my stomach.
There are way more people who want their phone to be cheap (totally unreasonable!) than people who want their phone to hold hundreds of GB of data (perfectly expected from a phone).And sales data just proves that top storage models sell way less than mid range because the vast majority of people really don't need that much storage.
Since these costs can't be passed only to you, the customer who needs the microSD slot, how do you reconcile the needs of the many vs. the wants of the few?
Aah, the old "the manufacturer should spend time and money to make this model for me and the 2 other people who want it, and everyone else should pay for something they don't need or they're idiots".
For years I heard all the BS reasons why more storage is needed. "I keep all my 4K videos there", "I want all my lossless music collection in my phone", etc. And they may be valid reasons for some. But the manufacturer has an even more valid reasons to ignore them: it costs to add the microSD slot and the demand is not as high as you'd think. So they draw the line and conclude it's not worth it for them or for the other 99.9% of customers who don't want to pay for something they don't use.
For every customer who wants a microSD slot there are 100+ who don't care. Are you willing to pay enough to cover the 100 slots that were installed but unused? Didn't think so.
Get a phone that has microSD slot or use USB OTG and you can still have your data with you at all times. Some manufacturers still provide them but only because there's not much competition left on that niche market.
BTW, I need 2 fingerprint sensors and 2 USB C connectors. Also a minimum size of 6.5" with a wide AR. You don't have to use the extras if you don't want to. Just pay for them. And I know you will agree with me because you're not an idiot, you *understand* other people's needs.
2 USB-C connectors isn't particularly unreasonable and 1 fingerprint reader on the back, one built into the display could be a nice combo!
Great suggestion, though I don't know about the 6.5" size. Most people still like ~6" size.
A substantial number of consumers don't want or care about the extra screen available from the notch. Who did that stop?
The number of consumers who can be sold on the value of a feature is more important than the number of users that will use the feature. Extra onboard storage can be upsold as a privacy feature.
The OG committer did not say he "desired" 256GB rather he said "256GB is not really enough for a mobile device these days". Which I assume people in the commits are reading it both ways though. I think most people here will agree it's not a bad thing to want 256GB of storage on their phone. Though most people here take issue with the blanket statement that 256GB of storage is needed on most cellphones. Which is what he said is objectively wrong in 2019.
Considering a high-end phone will also have DisplayPort Alternate Mode, support for USB mice/keyboards, and can run a desktop-like GUI? I could see phones made in 2019 being totally usable for a desktop-like use case except for lacking storage.
I need about 1TB to hold my music collection. It's great for traveling and I can listen to whatever I'm in the mood for without worrying about data transmission problems in certain regions I travel through. I use 128GB thumb drives in my cars with my favorite music. Far better option than having a huge wallet of cds.
That's a really odd conclusion to reach even for a hyper-aggressive typical male commentator in an Anandtech article. Give yourself a cookie as a reward.
PeachNCream - you again?! Most if not all the commit arguments I have seen on this site in the last few months have involved you. Don't blame other people for this fault without acknowledging that you personally are a significant part and arguably the cause of this issue. Your not the "white night" you think you are. You are the person saying dumb stuff like "256GB is not really enough for a mobile device these days" and acting like your right when people call you out on it. It's also the internet get a little thinker skin or at the very least leave the commit section, while you help your self to that cookie.
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trivik12 - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
This is great. power efficiency is most important with thin and light laptops. I hope to this improves battery life for laptopsbug77 - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
You should check what drains most of a laptop's battery first ;)PeachNCream - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Need for phone's internal storage, but please leave a microSD slot so I have a place to dump additional files. 256GB is not really enough for a mobile device these days.Marlin1975 - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Jesus, how many dick pics are you sending that 256gb is not enough for a phone?azfacea - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
why settle for dick pic when u can have 8k 120fps footage with HDRjabber - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
I just don't get this fetish for making and carrying around masses of data. Why burden yourself with all this crap? If I see someone like that I feel pity and sick to my stomach.Data hoarding...it's a form of mental illness.
shabby - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
Lol data hoarding? Wtf is wrong with you.rpg1966 - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
Aah, the old "I don't have this requirement, so everyone else is an idiot" line of 'reasoning'.UltraWide - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
+1close - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
-11There are way more people who want their phone to be cheap (totally unreasonable!) than people who want their phone to hold hundreds of GB of data (perfectly expected from a phone).And sales data just proves that top storage models sell way less than mid range because the vast majority of people really don't need that much storage.
Since these costs can't be passed only to you, the customer who needs the microSD slot, how do you reconcile the needs of the many vs. the wants of the few?
close - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
Aah, the old "the manufacturer should spend time and money to make this model for me and the 2 other people who want it, and everyone else should pay for something they don't need or they're idiots".For years I heard all the BS reasons why more storage is needed. "I keep all my 4K videos there", "I want all my lossless music collection in my phone", etc. And they may be valid reasons for some. But the manufacturer has an even more valid reasons to ignore them: it costs to add the microSD slot and the demand is not as high as you'd think. So they draw the line and conclude it's not worth it for them or for the other 99.9% of customers who don't want to pay for something they don't use.
For every customer who wants a microSD slot there are 100+ who don't care. Are you willing to pay enough to cover the 100 slots that were installed but unused? Didn't think so.
Get a phone that has microSD slot or use USB OTG and you can still have your data with you at all times. Some manufacturers still provide them but only because there's not much competition left on that niche market.
BTW, I need 2 fingerprint sensors and 2 USB C connectors. Also a minimum size of 6.5" with a wide AR. You don't have to use the extras if you don't want to. Just pay for them. And I know you will agree with me because you're not an idiot, you *understand* other people's needs.
lmcd - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link
2 USB-C connectors isn't particularly unreasonable and 1 fingerprint reader on the back, one built into the display could be a nice combo!Great suggestion, though I don't know about the 6.5" size. Most people still like ~6" size.
A substantial number of consumers don't want or care about the extra screen available from the notch. Who did that stop?
The number of consumers who can be sold on the value of a feature is more important than the number of users that will use the feature. Extra onboard storage can be upsold as a privacy feature.
jordanclock - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
I'm pretty sure I read this same argument when GB storage became common, or when 1080p recording was new, or when LTE was announced...PeachNCream - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
It might be a form of mental illness to consider a desire for 256GB of storage space a form of mental illness.Skeptical123 - Sunday, August 4, 2019 - link
The OG committer did not say he "desired" 256GB rather he said "256GB is not really enough for a mobile device these days". Which I assume people in the commits are reading it both ways though. I think most people here will agree it's not a bad thing to want 256GB of storage on their phone. Though most people here take issue with the blanket statement that 256GB of storage is needed on most cellphones. Which is what he said is objectively wrong in 2019.lmcd - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link
Considering a high-end phone will also have DisplayPort Alternate Mode, support for USB mice/keyboards, and can run a desktop-like GUI? I could see phones made in 2019 being totally usable for a desktop-like use case except for lacking storage.Fujikoma - Thursday, August 8, 2019 - link
I need about 1TB to hold my music collection. It's great for traveling and I can listen to whatever I'm in the mood for without worrying about data transmission problems in certain regions I travel through. I use 128GB thumb drives in my cars with my favorite music. Far better option than having a huge wallet of cds.PeachNCream - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
That's a really odd conclusion to reach even for a hyper-aggressive typical male commentator in an Anandtech article. Give yourself a cookie as a reward.Skeptical123 - Sunday, August 4, 2019 - link
PeachNCream - you again?! Most if not all the commit arguments I have seen on this site in the last few months have involved you. Don't blame other people for this fault without acknowledging that you personally are a significant part and arguably the cause of this issue. Your not the "white night" you think you are. You are the person saying dumb stuff like "256GB is not really enough for a mobile device these days" and acting like your right when people call you out on it. It's also the internet get a little thinker skin or at the very least leave the commit section, while you help your self to that cookie.PeachNCream - Sunday, August 4, 2019 - link
The word "commit" does not mean what you think it means.Skeptical123 - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
and? you and most readers can understand what I said which is what matters but hey whatever makes u feal beter...PeachNCream - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
And speaking of thin skins...Samus - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
This will be remarkable for cell phones, tablets and other tiny mobile systems. Would make a hell of a USB 3.1 flash drive too.ads295 - Sunday, August 4, 2019 - link
If it's PCI-E, can it be used on phones? Will we see these competing with UFS?