It just hogs the heat, by big thermal capacity. I bet major test suite would boil it. good at making temps steady, but I doublt any good on dissipation
And this complexity is buying us what exactly? Just something cool to look at? This seems about as useful as festooning the SSD with RGB LEDs. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Yes, I'm old, and I'm also an engineer - show me a real world benefit of this over a traditional heat sink on the module. It seems just as big if not bigger than other existing solution AND still relies on adequate air circulation within the case (and often right down between the PCI slots which seems to be where most MBs are locating their M.2 slots these days).
Marketing has decided that gamers and their money are as easily separable by tacky bling as audiophools and their money are by nonsense audio quality claims.
@DanNeely, not _that_ easily. Audiophiles will literally purchase multi-thousand dollar brass "resonating cones" and similarly expensive beeswax fuses to improve their measurably awful vacuum tube/vinyl record systems. At least water cooling an SSD keeps heat out of the chassis and, perhaps in pathological situations, can prevent SSD performance throttling due to an overheating controller. Both are nearly useless, but only nearly.
This water cooler doesn't even keep heat (such as it is) out of the chassis. It just moves it a little more efficiently from the SSD chips to the chassis environment.
Just as with audiophiles the number of people that have the cash and are gullible is very low. Those two things typically do not intersect all that often. In another words they wont sell but a handful of these an most of those will be in PC's that get put on display.
It isn't even really water-cooling. There's no radiator anywhere. It is just a heatsink that contains water. Not even a good one, since it doesn't have any fins.
M.2 drives get really hot and can throttle because of it. Thus isn't like water-cooling RAM. This product IS worthless however because there is no way to get the heat out, making it water recirculating.
I seem to recall that the nand memory used in those prefers to be on the warm side for proper functioning. controller needs to be cool though like any cpu.
The images of the drive do not depict any fins for heat dissipation and the entire water chamber appears to be enclosed in plastic, so how does the head get out exactly?
"... and since it is shipped without any water inside (it's designed to be filled by the end user), there is no risk of leakage during shipping."
If leakage during shipping is even a remote possibility, why on EARTH would anyone want to put water in one of these and then mount it in their expensive PC? Many times, it will end up directly above what is probably the most expensive component in the system (the GPU).
Water shouldn't come out of this, no matter what it goes through in shipping. If they don't trust the seals on their "water coolers" no one should.
Also, imagine how much fun it probably is getting Squad Bunch, I mean Team Group, to replace one of these if it fails. "You put water in it? You may have spilled some or reassembled it incorrectly. Warranty void." "You didn't put water in it? Improper cooling. Warranty void."
Heat enters via the metal heat plate and transfers to a paltry amount of water that in entirely ensconced/insulated with plastic over the entire possible side and upper radiative surface area. SMH
hmmm only 170 usd for the 1tb version? That's cheaper than most of the other nvme ssds. It may be useless but at least they are not charging an arm and a leg for this useless feature
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The Chill Blueberry - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
Lolsleepeeg3 - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
LOL! I came here to post that, too.sleepeeg3 - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
Also, not sure how water in a plastic box is supposed to help dissipate heat, despite the magic marketing arrows...deil - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
It just hogs the heat, by big thermal capacity. I bet major test suite would boil it.good at making temps steady, but I doublt any good on dissipation
Lord of the Bored - Saturday, July 27, 2019 - link
ROFLMAO!Me three.
rrinker - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
And this complexity is buying us what exactly? Just something cool to look at? This seems about as useful as festooning the SSD with RGB LEDs.Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Yes, I'm old, and I'm also an engineer - show me a real world benefit of this over a traditional heat sink on the module. It seems just as big if not bigger than other existing solution AND still relies on adequate air circulation within the case (and often right down between the PCI slots which seems to be where most MBs are locating their M.2 slots these days).
DanNeely - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
Marketing has decided that gamers and their money are as easily separable by tacky bling as audiophools and their money are by nonsense audio quality claims.Sivar - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
@DanNeely, not _that_ easily. Audiophiles will literally purchase multi-thousand dollar brass "resonating cones" and similarly expensive beeswax fuses to improve their measurably awful vacuum tube/vinyl record systems.At least water cooling an SSD keeps heat out of the chassis and, perhaps in pathological situations, can prevent SSD performance throttling due to an overheating controller. Both are nearly useless, but only nearly.
Arbie - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
This water cooler doesn't even keep heat (such as it is) out of the chassis. It just moves it a little more efficiently from the SSD chips to the chassis environment.Flunk - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
Don't forget the $1000 8-foot HDMI cables.Arbie - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
So we can look forward to Monster Cable RGB coolers, for the "gamer" LED arrays.FreckledTrout - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
Just as with audiophiles the number of people that have the cash and are gullible is very low. Those two things typically do not intersect all that often. In another words they wont sell but a handful of these an most of those will be in PC's that get put on display.CheapSushi - Friday, March 5, 2021 - link
Engineers like you seem to have cool jobs but end up being the absolutely most boring people ever.satai - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
Finally the industry found a thing more useless than water cooling. Water cooling for m.2.Congratulations! The progress can't be stopped!
Lord of the Bored - Saturday, July 27, 2019 - link
It isn't even really water-cooling. There's no radiator anywhere.It is just a heatsink that contains water. Not even a good one, since it doesn't have any fins.
Alex Topfer - Sunday, July 28, 2019 - link
There are plenty of cases where water cooling can be usefulThis isn't one of them
satai - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
The plenty of cases is... datacenter.CheapSushi - Friday, March 5, 2021 - link
Even IBM System Z mainframes use watercooling. Geeez how useless, right?Flunk - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
M.2 drives get really hot and can throttle because of it. Thus isn't like water-cooling RAM. This product IS worthless however because there is no way to get the heat out, making it water recirculating.vladx - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
I believe there's a 0 missing in the 'Sequential Write' first column.Ryan Smith - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
You are correct, sir!Scott_T - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
I seem to recall that the nand memory used in those prefers to be on the warm side for proper functioning. controller needs to be cool though like any cpu.Ashinjuka - Friday, July 26, 2019 - link
I eagerly await the McDLT NVMe TLC SSD.LtGoonRush - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
Yeah an optimal heat spreader arrangement thermally connects the controller and NAND together, cooling the controller and warming the NAND.ballsystemlord - Saturday, July 27, 2019 - link
The images of the drive do not depict any fins for heat dissipation and the entire water chamber appears to be enclosed in plastic, so how does the head get out exactly?lopri - Saturday, July 27, 2019 - link
Yah. I think this will heat up the chips more, not less. Plastic is going to insulate heat.ozzuneoj86 - Sunday, July 28, 2019 - link
I... don't even..."... and since it is shipped without any water inside (it's designed to be filled by the end user), there is no risk of leakage during shipping."
If leakage during shipping is even a remote possibility, why on EARTH would anyone want to put water in one of these and then mount it in their expensive PC? Many times, it will end up directly above what is probably the most expensive component in the system (the GPU).
Water shouldn't come out of this, no matter what it goes through in shipping. If they don't trust the seals on their "water coolers" no one should.
Also, imagine how much fun it probably is getting Squad Bunch, I mean Team Group, to replace one of these if it fails. "You put water in it? You may have spilled some or reassembled it incorrectly. Warranty void." "You didn't put water in it? Improper cooling. Warranty void."
Rοb - Sunday, July 28, 2019 - link
A Lava Lamp or Bubble Light would be so much cooler.drexnx - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
now THIS is a good ideaGunbuster - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
Heat enters via the metal heat plate and transfers to a paltry amount of water that in entirely ensconced/insulated with plastic over the entire possible side and upper radiative surface area. SMHFlunk - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
Seems like a heat sink would be more effective, and reliable.bajs11 - Monday, July 29, 2019 - link
hmmm only 170 usd for the 1tb version? That's cheaper than most of the other nvme ssds.It may be useless but at least they are not charging an arm and a leg for this useless feature
khanikun - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link
It's cause they've giving you bling, that'll keep the chips hot and give it a premature death. So you'll have to buy another one.Gunbuster - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link
Except for the 660P's sale for $85, HP's for $133, and bunches regular priced for less than $170