Those that have existing service contracts with HP, need the software vendor certification of select workstations and/or can't wait for the Threadripper updates that are on the horizon. Not all purchasing decisions come down to the hardware.
I guess you're thinking about the EliteDesk 705 G4 "Workstation". I put the last bit in citation marks because even *this* version doesn't support ECC memory. A workstation without ECC support is a workstation in name only.
To be brutally honest I don't get why we don't much more Ryzen-based competition to Intel Xeon E-based workstations like HP's Z2 or Dell's Precision 3630. ECC is already baked into Ryzen and you get exceptional performance for a much lower price.
Technically, what you're calling Threadripper 2 isn't Threadripper 2, but rather the Threadripper 2000 series, built on Zen+. The next iteration of Threadripper (the 3000 series) will be built on Zen 2.
AMD is not yet stable and reliable enough to put into a professional environment where reliability and customer support are key... Ryzen and threadripper is a new platform only in its third and second iteration respectively . Just with the launch of 3rd gen it begins to make sense to use it in a professional environment... Yet certain softwares are better optimized for intel platform... And AMD needs to catchup on driver front which will definitely take at least another year.
Didn't someone say something bonkers about Apple's pricing being in line with HP's workstations? $3114 (not $6000) and you get a 12 core system, not 8, with double the SSD storage of 512GB, all in a dual socket CPU system. Pretty sure the extra 3 grand can cover any deficiencies.
nope - that is only you that has dredged up the trollish comment. Never once in the article was Apple mentioned. Nor the comment stream (all 5 comments) *sigh*
On the website, it looks like the max configurable RAM is actually "768 GB (12 x 64 GB) DDR4-2933 ECC Registered Memory (2 processors)".
This looks like a solid workstation with most of the latest hardware options. It's great to know these kind of updated models are available when ready to upgrade to a new workstation. Thanks for the post.
Sigh. This is very sloppy reporting. Anton, do you do any research when you post these ads?
HP Z6 G4 is almost 2-year-old model. HP has validated Xeon W CPUs for it, but nothing else is new.
The link in the article to HP Quickspecs has a summary of changes at the end, and the specs are already at version 16. Feel free to peruse it.
Reading the Z6 G4 quickspecs (which the author failed to do): - can be configured with a single RTX 6000, not dual - can be configured with up to a single RTX 8000 48GB - can be configured with 56 cores total (2x Xeon Platinum 8x80), not 48 cores - can be configured with 768GB of memory (with 2 CPUs), not 384GB
The Z8 G4 mentioned is spec'd to house a single RTX8000 as well, not four. Only some midrange 3D cards can be installed in a quad configuration.
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Count Rushmore - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
I wonder which company ( or person) would buy those with AMD Threadripper II in the horizonKevin G - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
Those that have existing service contracts with HP, need the software vendor certification of select workstations and/or can't wait for the Threadripper updates that are on the horizon. Not all purchasing decisions come down to the hardware.12345 - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
Yeah it took more almost a year after 2nd gen Ryzen came out before they were in an entry level HP workstation that was actually in stock.azrael- - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
I guess you're thinking about the EliteDesk 705 G4 "Workstation". I put the last bit in citation marks because even *this* version doesn't support ECC memory. A workstation without ECC support is a workstation in name only.To be brutally honest I don't get why we don't much more Ryzen-based competition to Intel Xeon E-based workstations like HP's Z2 or Dell's Precision 3630. ECC is already baked into Ryzen and you get exceptional performance for a much lower price.
12345 - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
You mean threadripper 3? Threadripper 2 has been out for a year already.azrael- - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
Technically, what you're calling Threadripper 2 isn't Threadripper 2, but rather the Threadripper 2000 series, built on Zen+. The next iteration of Threadripper (the 3000 series) will be built on Zen 2.In a way, you're both correct ...and both wrong.
yetanotherhuman - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
*IIIXenith Systems - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
AMD is not yet stable and reliable enough to put into a professional environment where reliability and customer support are key... Ryzen and threadripper is a new platform only in its third and second iteration respectively . Just with the launch of 3rd gen it begins to make sense to use it in a professional environment... Yet certain softwares are better optimized for intel platform... And AMD needs to catchup on driver front which will definitely take at least another year.Alistair - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
Didn't someone say something bonkers about Apple's pricing being in line with HP's workstations? $3114 (not $6000) and you get a 12 core system, not 8, with double the SSD storage of 512GB, all in a dual socket CPU system. Pretty sure the extra 3 grand can cover any deficiencies.tmanini - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
nope - that is only you that has dredged up the trollish comment. Never once in the article was Apple mentioned. Nor the comment stream (all 5 comments) *sigh*Alistair - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
i never said in the comments for this article, i was referring to the comments when the Pro was announcedCyberWorker12000 - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
On the website, it looks like the max configurable RAM is actually "768 GB (12 x 64 GB) DDR4-2933 ECC Registered Memory (2 processors)".This looks like a solid workstation with most of the latest hardware options. It's great to know these kind of updated models are available when ready to upgrade to a new workstation. Thanks for the post.
sandtitz - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
Sigh. This is very sloppy reporting. Anton, do you do any research when you post these ads?HP Z6 G4 is almost 2-year-old model. HP has validated Xeon W CPUs for it, but nothing else is new.
The link in the article to HP Quickspecs has a summary of changes at the end, and the specs are already at version 16. Feel free to peruse it.
Reading the Z6 G4 quickspecs (which the author failed to do):
- can be configured with a single RTX 6000, not dual
- can be configured with up to a single RTX 8000 48GB
- can be configured with 56 cores total (2x Xeon Platinum 8x80), not 48 cores
- can be configured with 768GB of memory (with 2 CPUs), not 384GB
The Z8 G4 mentioned is spec'd to house a single RTX8000 as well, not four. Only some midrange 3D cards can be installed in a quad configuration.
twtech - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
Some of the CPUs are only supported in a single-socket configuration.