My source said the 38 inch will be $1800 USD. Which added Gsync and high but panel is kinda cheap actually. I have the Dell version of the IPS at 3840 × 1600 and was around $999. So "only" a $800 premium refresh rate could be worth it...if you got a card that can drive it.
if you trust a german site that posted similar info on the 37.5 inches (hardwarelux.de I believe) about a month ago, the price will be roughly 2K Euros. So around $2K in the US.
Also, I'm so f--king tired of everything being a multiple of 9. It's 3840:1600, literally half again as wide as 2560x1600 (16:10), and should be called 24:10.
I guess the argument for using a denominator of 9 is to make aspect ratios more directly comparable. However, I'd rather drop the fractional notation and just use decimal. Now that pixels are always square, it's easily computed by just dividing the width by the height of the native resolution. For instance, 1.78 ~= 16:9 and 2.35 is a common cinema aspect ratio.
I'm down with the decimal notation, but it's worth mentioning that x:10 aspect ratios are essentially decimal notation. Just move the decimal point of x one place to the left and you're done.
It's all hypothetical, though, since I don't see the fetish for 9 going away any time soon.
Obviously. But, it seemed like you were only proposing 24:10 because it simplified the numerator, in this particular case. As awkward as it is to use 9 everywhere, at least it eases the task of comparing them. IMO, that's the main priority.
I would much prefer to go decimal than switch everything to a denominator of 10. Then, we can do away with the silly W:H notation, as well.
> Ratios as fractions should, in reality, be reduced to the nearest integer, so your example should be 12:5
Well, if you don't constrain the denominator, then you can have a policy of finding the nearest integral fraction. However, you're forgetting that these specs need to be easily comparable. So, what appeals to your mathematical sensibilities is actually consumer-unfriendly.
> I prefer the 1.6:1, 1.77:1 format.
If you use a denominator of 1, then just drop the silly W:H format. It's redundant and not obvious to neophytes.
Been waiting for this monitor since it was announced at CES. Finally 1600p with high refresh rates!
Dunno why Anandetch has so many of the specs blank when they're already listed on LG's official product page. 144hz is the native refresh rate for the 38"
maybe now TN's will die, seeing that one of their only two advantages vanishes: response time. only the price advantage remains, as they are still cheaper.
No real HDR, no FALD, no G-Sync HDR no HDMi 2.1, not UHD/4K, not true 10-bit (it is 8-bit + FRC) AND a $2000 USD asking price?
Really LG, you are not going to sell a lot of these with those three true HDR G-Sync HDR 200Hz monitors coming down the pipeline from Asus, Acer and AOC.
Well you are wrong, Asus, Acer and AOC announced those monitors..2 YEARS ago now. Besides not many people care about HDR at all, it really is just a silly thing. Why even bother with HDMI? Its a gaming monitor..you are insane if you think anyone would push a 4k past the 144Hz it offers, let alone on the 38inch one.
"Real HDR" requires 1000 nits, for this product segment that does not make since. Both of these monitors will already be at the top of the pack. I don't see why LG would increase the cost and size so much to get a feature games the target market don't care for (and if they do this is still one of the best options regardless). Also HDMI 2.1 validation has not been out long enough to get these monitors shipped. It would be dumb for lg to wait around to launch a flag ship product because it does not support the highest number HDMI spec. Also UHD/4k kick stop shit posting it's more complicated than the number on the box. Related to monitor price, cable limitations, cpu cost, application utilization ect.
"feature LG’s Nano IPS panels featuring a special nanoparticle cover applied to the screen’s LED backlighting to fine-tune its spectral output to absorb surplus light wavelengths and increase intensity, purity, as well as the accuracy of the on-screen colors." So quantum dots.
What do you mean? To hi too low. 27inch 2k is consider the "sweet spot" for most people. As most people can use windows without scaling and you can't see the pixels unless you pixel peep. For the wide screen I'm not as sure on.
They seriously removed GSync from the 27GL850... I waited for this monitor so long and now this... IDK wtf is wrong with monitor/panel manufacturers, but they obviously think their customers are stupid.
i just ordered 2 x LG 24gk950f and both of the had terrible backlight bleed (the second one came in even worse), so watching movies in the dark room did not feel premium at all, considering the price tag. Now, they are adding ambient lighting to lessen the perceived backlight bleed instead of increasing the quality standards?
and i mean backlight bleed, in addition to the extreme ips glow at certain angles from above the center lines of the monitors. Somehow, it feels like LG is pushing to deliver first, but not the best they could.
That surprises you still? Same thing with any other panel manufacturer. They dont do it like GPU, CPU manufacturers, where bad ones will simply be made into a cheaper product or not used at all. No, they obviously have so many bad ones because of their horrible manufacturing process, that they have to sell even the blatantly broken ones at full price as a super high end one at 10 times (no exaggeration) the production value. But as long as people keep buying it in droves and even defend shit like this, they will keep doing it.
at first, I was a bit surprised (yet prepared by some reviews), because I had 34uc98w for years and I loved every bit of it (plus another great 60hz 27 incher before that from LG). But when the clock strikes midnight, the magical creatures come out, some of them glow but some bleed underneath the glow.
I still have an IPS monitor with LG panel from 2012. Its perfect. No BLB, no dead pixels, pretty fast, no input lag (as in lower than 1 ms). Its just so old that its starting to develop clouding and only has 75 Hz. I wanted something like that again, just bigger, with GSync, high refreshrate. No chance. They all devolved into crap.
Pretty sure the spec that says DP 1.2 is wrong. You cannot do HDR over DP 1.2. So if that was the case, your choices would either be GSync over DP, or HDR with HDMI, but not both GSync and HDR which IMO makes this a lot less worth it.
It depends on the type of HDR. DP1.2 can defiantly support HDR. It help on the low level to think of DP as a pipe with a capacity of the speed of the spec version. A high bitrate HDR 1080p stream will use similar capacity to a non HDR 4k stream for example.
Yes but Windows also won't even let you enable HDR on a DP1.2 monitor, or at least 1903 won't. I have an Acer 38 inch XR382CQK with HDR support (it's HDR perf isn't great, but it's still better looking than without), but if I turned HDR on when DP1.2 was connected, the display would go entirely black and never recover (and yes I checked all the obvious things like making sure HDR was enabled for DP on the display etc...). Once I used HDMI 2.0 it worked just fine.
And too add to that, this is the only place DP1.2 is listed, every other source including the press release don't mention it, so I am guessing it was a mistake and DP1.4 will be used.
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HStewart - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
Does anybody know the price on these, I have a 38 u 88 at same relation - my guess these are probably high end - I pad around $619.but love it.HStewart - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
Just 3440 X 1440 which 34in - so this one probably a lot more - FreeSync but not sure my Dell XPS 15 2in1 supports even though GPU shouldDiji1 - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
All the 34" 3440x1440 100Hz (120 OC) monitors prices have been tumbling recently though.imaheadcase - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
My source said the 38 inch will be $1800 USD. Which added Gsync and high but panel is kinda cheap actually. I have the Dell version of the IPS at 3840 × 1600 and was around $999. So "only" a $800 premium refresh rate could be worth it...if you got a card that can drive it.Hxx - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
if you trust a german site that posted similar info on the 37.5 inches (hardwarelux.de I believe) about a month ago, the price will be roughly 2K Euros. So around $2K in the US.Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
It's 21.6:9, unless "21.5:9" is some horrible new marketing compromise I've yet to hear about.Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
Also, I'm so f--king tired of everything being a multiple of 9. It's 3840:1600, literally half again as wide as 2560x1600 (16:10), and should be called 24:10.mode_13h - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
Heh, don't be such an old fogie, late bloomer!I guess the argument for using a denominator of 9 is to make aspect ratios more directly comparable. However, I'd rather drop the fractional notation and just use decimal. Now that pixels are always square, it's easily computed by just dividing the width by the height of the native resolution. For instance, 1.78 ~= 16:9 and 2.35 is a common cinema aspect ratio.
piroroadkill - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
Exactly. Decimal. way better.Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
I'm down with the decimal notation, but it's worth mentioning that x:10 aspect ratios are essentially decimal notation. Just move the decimal point of x one place to the left and you're done.It's all hypothetical, though, since I don't see the fetish for 9 going away any time soon.
mode_13h - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
Obviously. But, it seemed like you were only proposing 24:10 because it simplified the numerator, in this particular case. As awkward as it is to use 9 everywhere, at least it eases the task of comparing them. IMO, that's the main priority.I would much prefer to go decimal than switch everything to a denominator of 10. Then, we can do away with the silly W:H notation, as well.
piroroadkill - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
Ratios as fractions should, in reality, be reduced to the nearest integer, so your example should be 12:5.Then again, I'm no fan of any of this, I prefer the 1.6:1, 1.77:1 format. Forget integers, and just make the width a proportion of a fixed (1) height.
mode_13h - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
> Ratios as fractions should, in reality, be reduced to the nearest integer, so your example should be 12:5Well, if you don't constrain the denominator, then you can have a policy of finding the nearest integral fraction. However, you're forgetting that these specs need to be easily comparable. So, what appeals to your mathematical sensibilities is actually consumer-unfriendly.
> I prefer the 1.6:1, 1.77:1 format.
If you use a denominator of 1, then just drop the silly W:H format. It's redundant and not obvious to neophytes.
mode_13h - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
> the nearest integral fractionUh, I should've just said "the nearest ratio of integers".
Jeff72 - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
So what's a good 30" or higher 16:10 monitor these days?shabby - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
hp zr30w :)mlkmade - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link
Been waiting for this monitor since it was announced at CES. Finally 1600p with high refresh rates!Dunno why Anandetch has so many of the specs blank when they're already listed on LG's official product page. 144hz is the native refresh rate for the 38"
mobutu - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
maybe now TN's will die, seeing that one of their only two advantages vanishes: response time.only the price advantage remains, as they are still cheaper.
halcyon - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
No real HDR, no FALD, no G-Sync HDR no HDMi 2.1, not UHD/4K, not true 10-bit (it is 8-bit + FRC) AND a $2000 USD asking price?Really LG, you are not going to sell a lot of these with those three true HDR G-Sync HDR 200Hz monitors coming down the pipeline from Asus, Acer and AOC.
imaheadcase - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
Well you are wrong, Asus, Acer and AOC announced those monitors..2 YEARS ago now. Besides not many people care about HDR at all, it really is just a silly thing. Why even bother with HDMI? Its a gaming monitor..you are insane if you think anyone would push a 4k past the 144Hz it offers, let alone on the 38inch one.imaheadcase - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
To further that, they announced them..THREE times. They was only "6 months" away each time.Diji1 - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
>Besides not many people care about HDR at all, it really is just a silly thingIt's a large increase in image quality so clueless people don't care about it I guess.
Skeptical123 - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link
"Real HDR" requires 1000 nits, for this product segment that does not make since. Both of these monitors will already be at the top of the pack. I don't see why LG would increase the cost and size so much to get a feature games the target market don't care for (and if they do this is still one of the best options regardless). Also HDMI 2.1 validation has not been out long enough to get these monitors shipped. It would be dumb for lg to wait around to launch a flag ship product because it does not support the highest number HDMI spec. Also UHD/4k kick stop shit posting it's more complicated than the number on the box. Related to monitor price, cable limitations, cpu cost, application utilization ect.mdrejhon - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
It's important for manufacturers advertise both GtG and MPRT -- two different pixel response benchmarks.https://www.blurbusters.com/gtg-vs-mprt
futrtrubl - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
"feature LG’s Nano IPS panels featuring a special nanoparticle cover applied to the screen’s LED backlighting to fine-tune its spectral output to absorb surplus light wavelengths and increase intensity, purity, as well as the accuracy of the on-screen colors." So quantum dots.Krysto - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
Okay, it seems everyone is reaching close to 100% P3 lately. When are we going to start demanding support for Rec. 2020/2100?MisterAnon - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
Resolution way too small for the size of these things. Will give you horrible pixel density.Skeptical123 - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link
What do you mean? To hi too low. 27inch 2k is consider the "sweet spot" for most people. As most people can use windows without scaling and you can't see the pixels unless you pixel peep. For the wide screen I'm not as sure on.Beaver M. - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
They seriously removed GSync from the 27GL850...I waited for this monitor so long and now this...
IDK wtf is wrong with monitor/panel manufacturers, but they obviously think their customers are stupid.
mode_13h - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
$$$?How much better is full GSync than good GSync-compat?
Beaver M. - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
Adaptive overdrive, better response times, lower input lag is stuff thats worth a lot.Dragonstongue - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
nice specs butGsync only?
seriously LG
grrrrrrrrr
knorr555 - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
i just ordered 2 x LG 24gk950f and both of the had terrible backlight bleed (the second one came in even worse), so watching movies in the dark room did not feel premium at all, considering the price tag. Now, they are adding ambient lighting to lessen the perceived backlight bleed instead of increasing the quality standards?knorr555 - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
and i mean backlight bleed, in addition to the extreme ips glow at certain angles from above the center lines of the monitors. Somehow, it feels like LG is pushing to deliver first, but not the best they could.Beaver M. - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
That surprises you still?Same thing with any other panel manufacturer.
They dont do it like GPU, CPU manufacturers, where bad ones will simply be made into a cheaper product or not used at all.
No, they obviously have so many bad ones because of their horrible manufacturing process, that they have to sell even the blatantly broken ones at full price as a super high end one at 10 times (no exaggeration) the production value.
But as long as people keep buying it in droves and even defend shit like this, they will keep doing it.
knorr555 - Monday, June 17, 2019 - link
at first, I was a bit surprised (yet prepared by some reviews), because I had 34uc98w for years and I loved every bit of it (plus another great 60hz 27 incher before that from LG). But when the clock strikes midnight, the magical creatures come out, some of them glow but some bleed underneath the glow.In either, the refund is pending.
Beaver M. - Wednesday, June 19, 2019 - link
I still have an IPS monitor with LG panel from 2012. Its perfect. No BLB, no dead pixels, pretty fast, no input lag (as in lower than 1 ms). Its just so old that its starting to develop clouding and only has 75 Hz.I wanted something like that again, just bigger, with GSync, high refreshrate.
No chance. They all devolved into crap.
planedrop - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link
Pretty sure the spec that says DP 1.2 is wrong. You cannot do HDR over DP 1.2. So if that was the case, your choices would either be GSync over DP, or HDR with HDMI, but not both GSync and HDR which IMO makes this a lot less worth it.Skeptical123 - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link
It depends on the type of HDR. DP1.2 can defiantly support HDR. It help on the low level to think of DP as a pipe with a capacity of the speed of the spec version. A high bitrate HDR 1080p stream will use similar capacity to a non HDR 4k stream for example.planedrop - Monday, June 24, 2019 - link
Yes but Windows also won't even let you enable HDR on a DP1.2 monitor, or at least 1903 won't. I have an Acer 38 inch XR382CQK with HDR support (it's HDR perf isn't great, but it's still better looking than without), but if I turned HDR on when DP1.2 was connected, the display would go entirely black and never recover (and yes I checked all the obvious things like making sure HDR was enabled for DP on the display etc...). Once I used HDMI 2.0 it worked just fine.And too add to that, this is the only place DP1.2 is listed, every other source including the press release don't mention it, so I am guessing it was a mistake and DP1.4 will be used.
Supercell99 - Friday, June 21, 2019 - link
I just got mustard on my new comforter. I am pissed. Anyway I want this monitor. I wish they would include pricing.