I hope that's not the final design. The cutout for the USB-C port on the back is a bigger hole than for all the USB-A ports. Sloppy as hell looking, and makes me wonder what was originally there.
Actually a lot of motherboards have issues where the usb c port doesn't stick out (like it should, like with audio jacks) and it can't be used properly. I think the extra space around the port insures you can actually plug your devices in properly.
What is going on with motherboards these days having a chipset fan or is that for SSD cooling? Smaller fans have a tendency to wear out faster. I'm not sure its a good idea to include one.
all your PCIe4 lanes firing at once puts out a lot more heat than when they were PCIe3. As a result the x570 chipset has an 11W peak power output and needs a fan because long cards don't have enough vertical height for a substantial heat sink (an unreleased higher end model has more lanes and 15W peak power).
In normal use the chipset should use a lot less power; which should allow the chipset fans to be thermal controlled and normally off. However a mostly off fan has yet to be explicitly confirmed by any of the board vendors. The fan is there because to avoid RMA losses from the person who builds some sort of crazy PCIe4 storage rig that's constantly reading and writing pushing the chipset to maximum sustained power even though it should hopefully be able to sit off for normal use.
Aside from the new Ryzen boards I'm not aware of any motherboards having fans at all, so "these days" is a bit hyperbole
Anyways, I think all new Ryzen boards have a fan on the chipset It's been reported that the TDP of the thing is a bit high due to PCI-e 4.0
Personally, 14 watts does not sound like something huge to overcome, just that manufacturers have to keep in line with a "gaming" look, means flat and covered in plastic
11W. But the issue is GPU card clearance. You either stay slim and simple and use a variable speed fan, or you have to run a heatpipe and share fins with the VRM sinks. The fan works just fine.
Sorry, I've been living under a rock. I get it now. Usually when computer show spam starts hitting the AT news section, I start ignoring articles and missing things like the higher power demand and the fact that all of the Ryzen boards are packing chipset fans. Though I do think that there are some better design decisions that can be made here with respect to the chipset-fansplosion.
Modern small fans will last for ages and are quieter, especially since these won't need to spin very fast. Even then, they're mostly only needed when you're loading the PCIe 4.0 lanes attached to the chipset and running RAID.
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DanNeely - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
I hope that's not the final design. The cutout for the USB-C port on the back is a bigger hole than for all the USB-A ports. Sloppy as hell looking, and makes me wonder what was originally there.Alistair - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Actually a lot of motherboards have issues where the usb c port doesn't stick out (like it should, like with audio jacks) and it can't be used properly. I think the extra space around the port insures you can actually plug your devices in properly.Someguyperson - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
How can you have "Quad SLI" support with only 3 PCIe x16 slots and 2 PCIe x1 slots? Wouldn't that only be 3 GPUs?DigitalFreak - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Last I looked Nvidia didn't support SLI over an x4 slot either.Peter2k - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Or supports quad SLI in gaming, except 3d markTheWereCat - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
With dual GPU cards like Titan Z for example, you can do quad SLI over two PCIe slots.PeachNCream - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
What is going on with motherboards these days having a chipset fan or is that for SSD cooling? Smaller fans have a tendency to wear out faster. I'm not sure its a good idea to include one.DanNeely - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
all your PCIe4 lanes firing at once puts out a lot more heat than when they were PCIe3. As a result the x570 chipset has an 11W peak power output and needs a fan because long cards don't have enough vertical height for a substantial heat sink (an unreleased higher end model has more lanes and 15W peak power).In normal use the chipset should use a lot less power; which should allow the chipset fans to be thermal controlled and normally off. However a mostly off fan has yet to be explicitly confirmed by any of the board vendors. The fan is there because to avoid RMA losses from the person who builds some sort of crazy PCIe4 storage rig that's constantly reading and writing pushing the chipset to maximum sustained power even though it should hopefully be able to sit off for normal use.
Peter2k - Tuesday, June 4, 2019 - link
Aside from the new Ryzen boards I'm not aware of any motherboards having fans at all, so "these days" is a bit hyperboleAnyways, I think all new Ryzen boards have a fan on the chipset
It's been reported that the TDP of the thing is a bit high due to PCI-e 4.0
Personally, 14 watts does not sound like something huge to overcome, just that manufacturers have to keep in line with a "gaming" look, means flat and covered in plastic
Alexvrb - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
11W. But the issue is GPU card clearance. You either stay slim and simple and use a variable speed fan, or you have to run a heatpipe and share fins with the VRM sinks. The fan works just fine.PeachNCream - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Sorry, I've been living under a rock. I get it now. Usually when computer show spam starts hitting the AT news section, I start ignoring articles and missing things like the higher power demand and the fact that all of the Ryzen boards are packing chipset fans. Though I do think that there are some better design decisions that can be made here with respect to the chipset-fansplosion.Alexvrb - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Modern small fans will last for ages and are quieter, especially since these won't need to spin very fast. Even then, they're mostly only needed when you're loading the PCIe 4.0 lanes attached to the chipset and running RAID.Irata - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Don't you know the answer already by now ? I mean you have been posting this in plenty of other X570 related articles already...PeachNCream - Thursday, June 6, 2019 - link
Really? Which ones?duploxxx - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
only HDMI output and no DP. what have they been smoking? Not everybody has a HDMI to DP converter or cable laying around...TheWereCat - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
because HDMI is usable with more devices than DP without having to use the adapter