It's not the head. It's the odd arm that makes it look gimmicky. Yes that thing sticking out is an arm. Atleast i hope it is - PG13 guys. Atleast it's better than MSI's dragon.
Not to mention Gigabytes eventual move to lower-end components on future revisions of the same boards. Thats a reason to not support them until this stops entirely.
This is a major trend that I hate. Oh crap you got the v5. Even though it doesn't indicate what revision it is anywhere online. The v1-v4 were all great so there are nothing but great reviews online. That v5 though...
Still doing that? Remind me of the AM3+ UD3P, which improved the audio and cut corners on the power delivery/control — leading to the inability to post with the multiplier set beyond 4.4 GHz.
Gigabyte changed the UD3P AM3+ board. The audio was improved, to make buyers think the 2.0 board was merely an upgrade. However, they cut down the power delivery/control so the board wouldn't post with a multiplier beyond what would take an FX to 4.4 GHz (forcing users to resort to BCLK). And, various voltage controls were locked out.
That has not been my experience recently. I used to avoid Gigabyte boards, but when I was shopping for an AM4 board for my dad's mITX cube build, I ended up with a Gigabyte AB350N-Gaming WIFI board. I bought it because it was reasonably priced, was in stock with fresh BIOS so I could boot his 2200G without a loaner chip, and had Intel Wifi. The B450 boards weren't out at the time I was building it.
I figured what the heck, it's worth a shot, I haven't bought anything Gigabyte in ages and honestly Asus kind of disappointed me last go around. My experience with this Gigabyte board was surprisingly good, and I actually liked the BIOS. Flashed the latest BIOS to get the newer AGESA, and everything has been good to go.
If their X570 boards are comparable in overclocking capabilities, I might get one for my own build.
What are the 16 phase VRM's for ? So far we have 65W and 105W parts. Less than the 2xxx series on power with even more cores. A Threadripper 2950X is a 180W part. The 7nm version should be less.
Some mainboards are just flagship ones designed to be run by (semi) professional overclockers. And seeing that this is the second generation Zen core and the first 7nm CPU core, it will feature in a lot of (attempted) world records. One needs a good base for this kind of thing.
16 core Zen2 engineering sample has been shown to consume ~250W.
Granted the 16x70A powerstages are massive overkill since even heavily overclocked 16+ core will likely not pull over 400-500A. Unless we're talking about LN2 overcloking. Then...maybe.
Same reason the dual 8pin EPS connectors are largely pointless for most people. Single 8pin will have no trouble feeding 16 core chips.
Could also be that Gigabyte is future proofing for 24 and 32 core AM4 CPU's possibly coming with Zen3 or Zen4.
"16 core Zen2 engineering sample has been shown to consume ~250W." Really? Got a link for me? Everything I found had no mention of the power consumption. And considering the TDP of current TR CPUs, 250W does not make much sense.
I have seen leaked ”info” about 300w when extreme watercooled. Sound very plausible. When you push someth8ngsomething very high, it will xomsume a lot of ebenrfy and temperatures goes sky high! But yeah even then 16 phases is huge owerkill! It is normally used in servers!
A friend told me that he read about a guy who heard from his drug dealer that this other guy had privileged information, and it's definitely looking like 293W for the 16 core, but that might just be for the 3999XXX model. Anyway there's really no refuting the facts, Death.
Just like all those ridiculous leaks that I called bull on when they first dropped. Any time anyone mentions AdoredTV rumors like they're anything but hilarious BS, they will be laughed at.
With that being said, I am looking forward to picking up a 3600 and doing a mild OC at stock or near-stock voltage. I might even try fiddling with Ryzen Master for once.
Heh! :) That 300W is from motherboard vendors, so more legitimate than AdoredTV. And that is when heavily overclocked. Most likely normal TDP is 105W. or max 120W. But 16 cores can eat a lot, when you really push it! Normal user is newer even near that! He will run to temperature problems much earlier than that!
The ESS Sabre DAC is nice but it depends on the board maker to implement it correctly and I don’t think Gigabyte can. This DAC costs $20 max. $600 for an AMD motherboard is insane, let alone made by Gigabyte. I wouldn’t pay $150.
$600 has probably priced me out--since I want to buy an R3k & a 5700XT, too. *&^%^%&! I was hoping this mboard might ring the bell @ ~$450--I could just squeeze it in. The 10GB Ethernet will also do 5, 2.5, and 1Gb. Probably have to look at the Master, then @ $350--seems like a much better buy. Also at prices by ASUS & MSI--of which I can find none, as of today.
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fallaha56 - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
worth doublechecking your specs, board appears to have 10Gb Ethernetywyak - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
got a proof?liu_d - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
https://www.aorus.com/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10AQUANTIA® 10GbE LAN+1GbE LAN
WaltC - Monday, June 3, 2019 - link
Yup--Aquantia 10GbE + the standard 1GbE Ethernetant_in_pnc - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
Seems to confirm:https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XT...
Cygni - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
https://www.aorus.com/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10"AQUANTIA® 10GbE LAN+1GbE LAN"
FabricioGS - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
Seems like a great board. Shame that the BIOS (UEFI actually) of most Gigabyte boards these days are just horrible.svan1971 - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
Agreed, horrible bios and horrible Hawk looking emblem thing.Lord of the Bored - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
The eagle head looks awesome, don't hate.R7 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
It's not the head. It's the odd arm that makes it look gimmicky. Yes that thing sticking out is an arm. Atleast i hope it is - PG13 guys. Atleast it's better than MSI's dragon.Death666Angel - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
It's obviously an ice skating shoe, duh! ;)Alexvrb - Saturday, June 1, 2019 - link
I like, know right? And there's not enough Arr Gee Bees! /sarcasm hashtag Icantbelievepeoplecareabouttheemblemnevcairiel - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
Not to mention Gigabytes eventual move to lower-end components on future revisions of the same boards. Thats a reason to not support them until this stops entirely.Opencg - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
This is a major trend that I hate. Oh crap you got the v5. Even though it doesn't indicate what revision it is anywhere online. The v1-v4 were all great so there are nothing but great reviews online. That v5 though...Oxford Guy - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
Still doing that? Remind me of the AM3+ UD3P, which improved the audio and cut corners on the power delivery/control — leading to the inability to post with the multiplier set beyond 4.4 GHz.Flunk - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
Sometimes they eventually fix the BIOS issues, but I wouldn't buy one believing they will definitely fix it at some point.Oxford Guy - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
Gigabyte changed the UD3P AM3+ board. The audio was improved, to make buyers think the 2.0 board was merely an upgrade. However, they cut down the power delivery/control so the board wouldn't post with a multiplier beyond what would take an FX to 4.4 GHz (forcing users to resort to BCLK). And, various voltage controls were locked out.Alexvrb - Saturday, June 1, 2019 - link
That has not been my experience recently. I used to avoid Gigabyte boards, but when I was shopping for an AM4 board for my dad's mITX cube build, I ended up with a Gigabyte AB350N-Gaming WIFI board. I bought it because it was reasonably priced, was in stock with fresh BIOS so I could boot his 2200G without a loaner chip, and had Intel Wifi. The B450 boards weren't out at the time I was building it.I figured what the heck, it's worth a shot, I haven't bought anything Gigabyte in ages and honestly Asus kind of disappointed me last go around. My experience with this Gigabyte board was surprisingly good, and I actually liked the BIOS. Flashed the latest BIOS to get the newer AGESA, and everything has been good to go.
If their X570 boards are comparable in overclocking capabilities, I might get one for my own build.
FreckledTrout - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
TomsHardware has this listed as a $599 motherboard.https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-aorus-x...
svan1971 - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
My motherboard will never cost me more than my cpu.R7 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
We have yet to see 16 core price listed. Im pretty sure that will match or be higher than 599$invasmani - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link
How many can 1 kidney buy?msvojsik - Friday, January 31, 2020 - link
Exactly one half :)Rukur - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
What are the 16 phase VRM's for ?So far we have 65W and 105W parts. Less than the 2xxx series on power with even more cores. A Threadripper 2950X is a 180W part. The 7nm version should be less.
Death666Angel - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
Some mainboards are just flagship ones designed to be run by (semi) professional overclockers. And seeing that this is the second generation Zen core and the first 7nm CPU core, it will feature in a lot of (attempted) world records. One needs a good base for this kind of thing.R7 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
16 core Zen2 engineering sample has been shown to consume ~250W.Granted the 16x70A powerstages are massive overkill since even heavily overclocked 16+ core will likely not pull over 400-500A. Unless we're talking about LN2 overcloking. Then...maybe.
Same reason the dual 8pin EPS connectors are largely pointless for most people. Single 8pin will have no trouble feeding 16 core chips.
Could also be that Gigabyte is future proofing for 24 and 32 core AM4 CPU's possibly coming with Zen3 or Zen4.
Death666Angel - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
"16 core Zen2 engineering sample has been shown to consume ~250W."Really? Got a link for me? Everything I found had no mention of the power consumption. And considering the TDP of current TR CPUs, 250W does not make much sense.
haukionkannel - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
I have seen leaked ”info” about 300w when extreme watercooled. Sound very plausible. When you push someth8ngsomething very high, it will xomsume a lot of ebenrfy and temperatures goes sky high!But yeah even then 16 phases is huge owerkill! It is normally used in servers!
Alexvrb - Saturday, June 1, 2019 - link
A friend told me that he read about a guy who heard from his drug dealer that this other guy had privileged information, and it's definitely looking like 293W for the 16 core, but that might just be for the 3999XXX model. Anyway there's really no refuting the facts, Death.Just like all those ridiculous leaks that I called bull on when they first dropped. Any time anyone mentions AdoredTV rumors like they're anything but hilarious BS, they will be laughed at.
With that being said, I am looking forward to picking up a 3600 and doing a mild OC at stock or near-stock voltage. I might even try fiddling with Ryzen Master for once.
haukionkannel - Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - link
Heh! :)That 300W is from motherboard vendors, so more legitimate than AdoredTV.
And that is when heavily overclocked. Most likely normal TDP is 105W. or max 120W.
But 16 cores can eat a lot, when you really push it! Normal user is newer even near that! He will run to temperature problems much earlier than that!
sonny73n - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
The ESS Sabre DAC is nice but it depends on the board maker to implement it correctly and I don’t think Gigabyte can. This DAC costs $20 max. $600 for an AMD motherboard is insane, let alone made by Gigabyte. I wouldn’t pay $150.martinbrice - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
10Gbe + passively cooled chipset....wish it was from Asus, but it's the only board that checks the boxes I wanted checked.Oxford Guy - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link
It's nice to see innovation return to similar board heatsinks from 2002 or 2004 or whatever.Yay for innovation.
(Of course a lot of those were copper.)
WaltC - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
$600 has probably priced me out--since I want to buy an R3k & a 5700XT, too. *&^%^%&! I was hoping this mboard might ring the bell @ ~$450--I could just squeeze it in. The 10GB Ethernet will also do 5, 2.5, and 1Gb. Probably have to look at the Master, then @ $350--seems like a much better buy. Also at prices by ASUS & MSI--of which I can find none, as of today.WaltC - Saturday, June 15, 2019 - link
Nah--forgot, this is EATX. Also, the Master ATX appears to offer dual-bios support, too---so that looks like the choice at this point.