One of the reasons I have an iPhone 7 is the size. The X series is too large and too heavy. And too expensive, the cheap alternative (XR) comes in one size only - “too big”.
I hope they’ll realize at some point that size was one of the reasons the small iPhone constantly outsold its big brother.
I have to agree with you there. I thought the 6/7/8 was the perfect phone size and still do when I pick one up. The SE is a bit too small but I see the appeal for many. I have an X now and appreciate the better battery life over the 6/7/8 which frankly, was poor and I guess that’s the compromise. Hoping for some innovation but know we won’t get it and either way it won’t stop their crazy margins.
Isnt the smaller iPhone X and XS pretty close to the same size as the iPhone 6/7/8? larger screen, smaller bezels but physically close to the same size? I dont care one way or another about Apple or their phones, I just thought that iPhone X/XS was a nice smaller size phone.
This was my biggest concern when I upgraded to the iPhone XS Max. But I came up with a plan... I switched to a wallet case with my new iPhone, eliminating the need to carry both a wallet and a cell phone. The overall net payload, in both size and weight and number of items to track, was less. Problem solved.
To be honest, I am not sure how long will services sustain them at the rate the company is going. When it comes to hardware, there is barely any innovation in features along with very lackluster design and Apple is just playing catch up now. Apple is very dependent on its walled ecosystem to keep their users on their hardware, and on their services/ software. By opening up their services, I believe this will increase their user base for now allowing them to show nice numbers on their PnL and to shareholders. On the flipside, they are venturing out of their walled garden and leaving themselves vulnerable trying to compete in services in areas that they have little experience in, and with strong competitors already providing these services. If these services fail to impress, they risk losing people that are still happily living in their walled garden as well.
At the very least they will need to stop costing more and giving less than their competitors. The model just doesn't hold up when you look at an $1100 phone that does less than its competition and is hardly better then previous gen. As it is the biggest feature they are touting for the iPhone 11 is the camera. pfft.
To be fair that's all that Samsung says as well. Samsung says they've got a faster processor, more RAM, etc. Does it really matter? Nope. Samsung is in the same boat Apple is in.
Yes, but the price difference isn't that much. Maybe $150, if that. The Galaxy S10 (not the S10e) costs nearly $900 in the US, that's very much approaching Apple price territory.
Yes, the S10/S10+ is way overpriced. Even being that it is way overpriced, it still costs less and does more than the iPhone XS/XS+. My point is that in a word of overpriced phones, Apple is still the king of milking it and overpricing it and it's not surprising that sales are slowing.
Apple is “touting features for the iPhone 11”? Damn, you have access to very different media than I do! In my world, I need to wait till September to see what features “they” are touting.
Apple Watch 4, AirPods, and FaceID aren’t innovation? Tough crowd! I think you’re being somewhat unrealistic in your expectations. A new platform (phone, iPad, watch, ARM Mac this year? glasses in 2021?) is a once in a decade thing for good companies. Apple probably hits that once every 4 years on average, even apart from the lesser innovations...
"Revenue for this quarter for iPhone was down 17.3% to $31.0 billion, and this is at a time where per-unit prices are at their highest in history of the iPhone. "
Maybe, just maybe, this is the reason. After all, the optimal price (the price with maximum profit) is not highest possible you can imagine. After some point, people say "fk it, it is not $1000 better than my phone from 2 years ago".
I keep revisiting idea to go back to iPhone... I have been using it in 3Gs days, and it served me well for the time (until iOS6 crippled it - but that's water under the bridge).
At this stage price is really what turns me off. I have paid most expensive 3Gs - and it was quite a beast for the time, enormous 32GB of storage and all that - around NZ$1300. You cannot buy anything current for that price nowadays. Cheapest XR is NZ$1400. Xs is NZ$1900, but that's 64GB... I tend to keep my phones well over 2 years, so considering lack of SD card, I would go for next model... which is NZ$2200.
I just cannot justify this. Androids in NZ$600 - 1000 serve my needs perfectly. If I have extra money to burn, I'll rather burn it on my other interests.
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nirolf - Tuesday, April 30, 2019 - link
One of the reasons I have an iPhone 7 is the size. The X series is too large and too heavy. And too expensive, the cheap alternative (XR) comes in one size only - “too big”.I hope they’ll realize at some point that size was one of the reasons the small iPhone constantly outsold its big brother.
plewis00 - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
I have to agree with you there. I thought the 6/7/8 was the perfect phone size and still do when I pick one up. The SE is a bit too small but I see the appeal for many. I have an X now and appreciate the better battery life over the 6/7/8 which frankly, was poor and I guess that’s the compromise. Hoping for some innovation but know we won’t get it and either way it won’t stop their crazy margins.goatfajitas - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Isnt the smaller iPhone X and XS pretty close to the same size as the iPhone 6/7/8? larger screen, smaller bezels but physically close to the same size? I dont care one way or another about Apple or their phones, I just thought that iPhone X/XS was a nice smaller size phone.sheh - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
iPhone X-XS: 143x71mmiPhone 6-8: 138x67mm
iPhone SE: 124x58mm
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patel21 - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
#MeToo I wished they had released full display version in iPhone 7 body. With a good battery and it would have been a winner.jimjamjamie - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
The iPhone 7 is peak iPhone for me thus far. Up there with the iconic 4 and 5S/SE.TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
This was my biggest concern when I upgraded to the iPhone XS Max. But I came up with a plan... I switched to a wallet case with my new iPhone, eliminating the need to carry both a wallet and a cell phone. The overall net payload, in both size and weight and number of items to track, was less. Problem solved.watzupken - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
To be honest, I am not sure how long will services sustain them at the rate the company is going. When it comes to hardware, there is barely any innovation in features along with very lackluster design and Apple is just playing catch up now. Apple is very dependent on its walled ecosystem to keep their users on their hardware, and on their services/ software. By opening up their services, I believe this will increase their user base for now allowing them to show nice numbers on their PnL and to shareholders. On the flipside, they are venturing out of their walled garden and leaving themselves vulnerable trying to compete in services in areas that they have little experience in, and with strong competitors already providing these services. If these services fail to impress, they risk losing people that are still happily living in their walled garden as well.goatfajitas - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
At the very least they will need to stop costing more and giving less than their competitors. The model just doesn't hold up when you look at an $1100 phone that does less than its competition and is hardly better then previous gen. As it is the biggest feature they are touting for the iPhone 11 is the camera. pfft.trparky - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
To be fair that's all that Samsung says as well. Samsung says they've got a faster processor, more RAM, etc. Does it really matter? Nope. Samsung is in the same boat Apple is in.goatfajitas - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Point taken, but Samsungs flagships do cost less and do more than Apple's.trparky - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Yes, but the price difference isn't that much. Maybe $150, if that. The Galaxy S10 (not the S10e) costs nearly $900 in the US, that's very much approaching Apple price territory.trparky - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
The Galaxy S10+ costs nearly $1000 in the US. YIKES!goatfajitas - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Yes, the S10/S10+ is way overpriced. Even being that it is way overpriced, it still costs less and does more than the iPhone XS/XS+. My point is that in a word of overpriced phones, Apple is still the king of milking it and overpricing it and it's not surprising that sales are slowing.TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Apple phones have FAR better resale value... The price difference is negligible.goatfajitas - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Way to miss the point. TxRadiclDreamer - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Tell that to the $2000 fold and its disastrous demo units sent out to reviewers.name99 - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Apple is “touting features for the iPhone 11”?Damn, you have access to very different media than I do! In my world, I need to wait till September to see what features “they” are touting.
name99 - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
Apple Watch 4, AirPods, and FaceID aren’t innovation?Tough crowd!
I think you’re being somewhat unrealistic in your expectations. A new platform (phone, iPad, watch, ARM Mac this year? glasses in 2021?) is a once in a decade thing for good companies. Apple probably hits that once every 4 years on average, even apart from the lesser innovations...
sheh - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
iPhone X-XS: 143x71mmiPhone 6-8: 138x67mm
iPhone SE: 124x58mm
0iron - Thursday, May 2, 2019 - link
" Lack of an Oxford comma can be forgiven since this segment had revenues increase..."LOL 🤣
peevee - Thursday, May 2, 2019 - link
"Revenue for this quarter for iPhone was down 17.3% to $31.0 billion, and this is at a time where per-unit prices are at their highest in history of the iPhone. "Maybe, just maybe, this is the reason. After all, the optimal price (the price with maximum profit) is not highest possible you can imagine. After some point, people say "fk it, it is not $1000 better than my phone from 2 years ago".
nikon133 - Thursday, May 2, 2019 - link
I keep revisiting idea to go back to iPhone... I have been using it in 3Gs days, and it served me well for the time (until iOS6 crippled it - but that's water under the bridge).At this stage price is really what turns me off. I have paid most expensive 3Gs - and it was quite a beast for the time, enormous 32GB of storage and all that - around NZ$1300. You cannot buy anything current for that price nowadays. Cheapest XR is NZ$1400. Xs is NZ$1900, but that's 64GB... I tend to keep my phones well over 2 years, so considering lack of SD card, I would go for next model... which is NZ$2200.
I just cannot justify this. Androids in NZ$600 - 1000 serve my needs perfectly. If I have extra money to burn, I'll rather burn it on my other interests.