Industrial is priced similarly to Enterprise. $10, 20, 40, 80, if not $100, 200, 400, and 800 is more likely with availability being "call a sales weasel". They're definitely not going to be priced at anything you or I would be willing to pay unless we had some device that was writing regular sd cards to death on a regular basis.
That's about all they are worth. I've never had a Micro SD card fail, and I use them quite frequently with my asus tinkerboard-s, raspberry pi 2, and even on my PC as backup. You can get a Samsung Evo 128 gb for $30 for instance. There are also 8 GB cards that cost $8-$9. All are class 10. Kingston even has a 16 gb card for $3.72. To top that off, the Samsung EVO 512 GB card is $139.99 on Amazon.
I think your "quite frequent hobby use" doesn't hold a candle to industrial requirements where they want to put this thing in a machine running 24/7 and have it keep working for 40 years. The MTBF rating they've put on it is measured in centuries, not "didn't fail in a raspberry pi".
I've had three different 32GB SD cards die because the media sharing app on my android phone and tablet just kept pushing the card when the phone was idle until it burned it up.
Less than six months. I disabled that service and suddenly SD cards last years.
They're not meant for constant use.
These SD cards are. The "bytes written" difference is incredibly huge.
only place where it would be useful as I see it is some kind of fist-sized drone, collecting data for a day or so. In this scenario software failure costs you way more than any storage, and its more important that it always return, than high resolution(and masive dataset)
Yes, they absolutely spent the time and money required to create these with only that specific use-case in mind, having not had any requests from customers that actually need this combination of features.
You're not going to use an SLC SD card in a drone. These are meant in for use in industrial equipment, harsh environments, etc. The use of SLC makes them able to better withstand extreme temperatures without premature aging, whereas a TLC card would need lots of cell refreshes which will wear it out faster.
Depending on the price, I might try the 8GB one for a raspberry pi installation. Although I haven't had an SD card die there, yet, I also haven't been using a raspberry pi system a lot. Should be less than a 32GB mSD card, I hope (which are dog cheap these days).
I doubt this 8gb card will be less than a standard 32gb card. That 32gb card is probably using TLC or QLC which means storing 8 or 16 values in 1 flash cell. This card uses MLC which stores a single value in the cell. Assuming everything else was equal this 8gb card would be a 64gb or 128gb card if used as TLC or QLC so I'd expect it to be at least as expensive as one of those cards and being a specialized industrial focused card probably even higher.
TLC and QLC store 8 and 16 states respectively but that only leads to 3 bits and 4 bits of information. 8GB SLC would be only 32 GB TLC or 64 GB QLC and not 64/128 as you state.
The move from 1 bit per cell to 2 bits per cell was perfectly linear, twice the states (and complexities) for twice the information stored. TLC and QLC (and so forth) is you have exponentially more states but only a linear increase in actual bits.
It's really a niche product for industrial embedded controllers. If the controller is inside a machine and you have to shut it down and pull it apart to swap a $2 memory card, you're better off spending $20 on that memory card up front.
For regular users, a 32GB card with good wear levelling will be cheaper and work just as well.
or a dash cam, with continuous writes while the car is in use. It is cheaper than paying for medical bills of someone who waits for the vehicle to stop, then lays down in front, and claims a car to pedestrian accident.
My guess is you're either from Russia or have been watching Russian videos on the YouTubes :) In the USA it's not half so bad; they only need dash cams so that the owner's family can sue the police for wrongful death after the cop shoots them during a routine traffic stop ;)
So you're one of these people that think dashcams are only used to Sue the police, small minded person (ok sorry "surveillance cameras") dash cams in your car can get you out of a lot of trouble with the police and also assuming it wasn't your fault prove instant no fault on your insurance
What wedding photog uses a camera with a microSD slot, though? Prosumer and up level cameras are all vanilla SD afaik. And there's plenty of robust SD cards available aimed at photography which do have the much higher write speed you kind of want for burst photo rate etc anyway.
Any photography-oriented SD card (micro or otherwise) is going to start at 64GB and will absolutely favor high write speeds over reliability. No one wants their shots to stop because the SD write buffer is full.
This has a use for one scenario: Always-on equipment in harsh environments where storage needs are minimal, but reliability is paramount. These will be put into systems that either need to always be up or are expensive to service.
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shabby - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
I hope they cost $1, $2, $4 and $8.kamm2 - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
On Ebay and Amazon, shipped from China. Probably already there. All genuine of course.DanNeely - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
Industrial is priced similarly to Enterprise. $10, 20, 40, 80, if not $100, 200, 400, and 800 is more likely with availability being "call a sales weasel". They're definitely not going to be priced at anything you or I would be willing to pay unless we had some device that was writing regular sd cards to death on a regular basis.eek2121 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
That's about all they are worth. I've never had a Micro SD card fail, and I use them quite frequently with my asus tinkerboard-s, raspberry pi 2, and even on my PC as backup. You can get a Samsung Evo 128 gb for $30 for instance. There are also 8 GB cards that cost $8-$9. All are class 10. Kingston even has a 16 gb card for $3.72. To top that off, the Samsung EVO 512 GB card is $139.99 on Amazon.Guspaz - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
I think your "quite frequent hobby use" doesn't hold a candle to industrial requirements where they want to put this thing in a machine running 24/7 and have it keep working for 40 years. The MTBF rating they've put on it is measured in centuries, not "didn't fail in a raspberry pi".0ldman79 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
I've had three different 32GB SD cards die because the media sharing app on my android phone and tablet just kept pushing the card when the phone was idle until it burned it up.Less than six months. I disabled that service and suddenly SD cards last years.
They're not meant for constant use.
These SD cards are. The "bytes written" difference is incredibly huge.
Stan11003 - Wednesday, May 1, 2019 - link
I work with IP Security Cameras. I see them fail all the time. If you write enough video to them they will fail like an SSD if not faster.deil - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
only place where it would be useful as I see it is some kind of fist-sized drone, collecting data for a day or so. In this scenario software failure costs you way more than any storage, and its more important that it always return, than high resolution(and masive dataset)rpg1966 - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
Yes, they absolutely spent the time and money required to create these with only that specific use-case in mind, having not had any requests from customers that actually need this combination of features.saratoga4 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
You're not going to use an SLC SD card in a drone. These are meant in for use in industrial equipment, harsh environments, etc. The use of SLC makes them able to better withstand extreme temperatures without premature aging, whereas a TLC card would need lots of cell refreshes which will wear it out faster.Death666Angel - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
Depending on the price, I might try the 8GB one for a raspberry pi installation. Although I haven't had an SD card die there, yet, I also haven't been using a raspberry pi system a lot. Should be less than a 32GB mSD card, I hope (which are dog cheap these days).kpb321 - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
I doubt this 8gb card will be less than a standard 32gb card. That 32gb card is probably using TLC or QLC which means storing 8 or 16 values in 1 flash cell. This card uses MLC which stores a single value in the cell. Assuming everything else was equal this 8gb card would be a 64gb or 128gb card if used as TLC or QLC so I'd expect it to be at least as expensive as one of those cards and being a specialized industrial focused card probably even higher.limitedaccess - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
TLC and QLC store 8 and 16 states respectively but that only leads to 3 bits and 4 bits of information. 8GB SLC would be only 32 GB TLC or 64 GB QLC and not 64/128 as you state.The move from 1 bit per cell to 2 bits per cell was perfectly linear, twice the states (and complexities) for twice the information stored. TLC and QLC (and so forth) is you have exponentially more states but only a linear increase in actual bits.
Hul8 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
You didn't get the math right, either. :-)The equivalences for 8×1024³ cells would be:
SLC; 1 bit/cell: 8 GB,
MLC: 2 bits/cell: 2 x 8 = 16 GB,
TLC: 3 bits/cell: 3 x 8 = 24 GB,
QLC: 4 bits/cell: 4 x 8 = 32 GB.
PixyMisa - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
It's really a niche product for industrial embedded controllers. If the controller is inside a machine and you have to shut it down and pull it apart to swap a $2 memory card, you're better off spending $20 on that memory card up front.For regular users, a 32GB card with good wear levelling will be cheaper and work just as well.
Hul8 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
I think pricing like that is overly optimistic.Going from QLC -> SLC, you'd quarter the density, therefore 4x the cost of NAND per GB. Most of the fixed costs remain.
Add to that the lack of economies of scale and the durable construction; industrial use instead of consumer.
The 2 GB variant might be in the same price range as a regular 32 GB memory stick.
mikegrok - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
or a dash cam, with continuous writes while the car is in use. It is cheaper than paying for medical bills of someone who waits for the vehicle to stop, then lays down in front, and claims a car to pedestrian accident.Spunjji - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
My guess is you're either from Russia or have been watching Russian videos on the YouTubes :) In the USA it's not half so bad; they only need dash cams so that the owner's family can sue the police for wrongful death after the cop shoots them during a routine traffic stop ;)PeachNCream - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
Wow, this went south pretty quickly.leexgx - Saturday, April 27, 2019 - link
So you're one of these people that think dashcams are only used to Sue the police, small minded person (ok sorry "surveillance cameras") dash cams in your car can get you out of a lot of trouble with the police and also assuming it wasn't your fault prove instant no fault on your insurance0ldman79 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
Further it's likely hardened for temps and general abuse.danwat1234 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
Only up to 32GB? U can get a Samsung Pro 32GB microSD card for $20danwat1234 - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
I mean only up to 8GB for the Adatajabber - Sunday, April 28, 2019 - link
8GB is a little on the teeny side but if they went up to 16/32GB they could be handy for wedding photographers and the like.Bolognesus - Monday, April 29, 2019 - link
What wedding photog uses a camera with a microSD slot, though? Prosumer and up level cameras are all vanilla SD afaik.And there's plenty of robust SD cards available aimed at photography which do have the much higher write speed you kind of want for burst photo rate etc anyway.
jordanclock - Tuesday, April 30, 2019 - link
Any photography-oriented SD card (micro or otherwise) is going to start at 64GB and will absolutely favor high write speeds over reliability. No one wants their shots to stop because the SD write buffer is full.This has a use for one scenario: Always-on equipment in harsh environments where storage needs are minimal, but reliability is paramount. These will be put into systems that either need to always be up or are expensive to service.
Samus - Sunday, April 28, 2019 - link
Good for a dashcam as long as you don’t care about having more than an hour of video history.Xajel - Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - link
If priced accordingly, these will be good for Raspberry data logging, of course along with log2ram.