The one reviewed on LTT has an i7-7700 (non k) which is a 65w quad core. I can get my 9900k to pull 190w load at stock clocks and voltage...There is no way they are going to pull that off passively without significantly reducing performance (it will be fine for short bursts).
Motherboards are free to ignore the TDP limit on those cpus, but they don't have to. Hence I bet this one doesn't, so the cpu won't pull more than 95W. Obviously this will make it a bit slower, but not by all that much actually. That said, 95W is still a lot for passive cooling, and I wonder if it can really sustain this, especially in somewhat warmer environments, or if it has to throttle.
Article is misleading, its gonna be Core i9-9900, Core i7-9700, or Celeron G4900 non-K 65W variants! They will probably include the 35W T models in later times...
This sounds largely implausible. I bought a Panasonic Toughbook CF-33 the other day, that has an i5-6300U in it as well as a cooling fan - so despite having a chunky metal case and internal airflow to dissipate the heat it still needs assistance for 15W TDP. How do they make this work with an i9 desktop chip and high end GPUs?
I'd like to see these things ship with U-series processors and mobile graphics like the MX150 or just use the iGPU for more cost effective systems that do not suffer from fan failures. I have a 14-inch Dell Latitude e5440 with a Haswell U in it and even after disabling CPU turbo in the BIOS, setting the max clockspeed to 80% in power management, setting Intel's iGPU to always run in max battery mode regardless of whether or not its plugged in, AND being outfitted with a larger heat pipe due to the presence of a GeForce GT 720m that I do not use at all, the cooling fan still sometimes steps up to speeds that are audible which annoys me given how quiet my HP Stream 11 is as it lacks any sort of active cooling.
got here 2x l5630 40w tdp with a passive zalman cpns10x open bench and it run about 45ºc. The xeon X5675 95W TDP have some heat problems. This system with this tiny heat sink will fail!
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AshlayW - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
>Fanless>9900K
Oh dear...
shabby - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
I wonder if it'll throttle into triple mhz numbers.bryanlyon - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
The previous version did well, LTT even did a review of it that was quite positive.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4R-EsiyRk0
IndianaKrom - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
The one reviewed on LTT has an i7-7700 (non k) which is a 65w quad core. I can get my 9900k to pull 190w load at stock clocks and voltage...There is no way they are going to pull that off passively without significantly reducing performance (it will be fine for short bursts).mczak - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
Motherboards are free to ignore the TDP limit on those cpus, but they don't have to. Hence I bet this one doesn't, so the cpu won't pull more than 95W. Obviously this will make it a bit slower, but not by all that much actually.That said, 95W is still a lot for passive cooling, and I wonder if it can really sustain this, especially in somewhat warmer environments, or if it has to throttle.
Nichronos - Sunday, April 28, 2019 - link
Article is misleading, its gonna be Core i9-9900, Core i7-9700, or Celeron G4900 non-K 65W variants! They will probably include the 35W T models in later times...plewis00 - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
This sounds largely implausible. I bought a Panasonic Toughbook CF-33 the other day, that has an i5-6300U in it as well as a cooling fan - so despite having a chunky metal case and internal airflow to dissipate the heat it still needs assistance for 15W TDP. How do they make this work with an i9 desktop chip and high end GPUs?PeachNCream - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
I'd like to see these things ship with U-series processors and mobile graphics like the MX150 or just use the iGPU for more cost effective systems that do not suffer from fan failures. I have a 14-inch Dell Latitude e5440 with a Haswell U in it and even after disabling CPU turbo in the BIOS, setting the max clockspeed to 80% in power management, setting Intel's iGPU to always run in max battery mode regardless of whether or not its plugged in, AND being outfitted with a larger heat pipe due to the presence of a GeForce GT 720m that I do not use at all, the cooling fan still sometimes steps up to speeds that are audible which annoys me given how quiet my HP Stream 11 is as it lacks any sort of active cooling.peevee - Monday, April 29, 2019 - link
Ribbed radiator with vertical ribs for stovepipe effect can easily achieve 30x cooling efficiency compared to a laptop.stanleyipkiss - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
I would actually buy this if it had a regular GeForce -- and if I got assurances that there is absolutely NO coil whine.Robert Pankiw - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
The article states that it can come with a GTX 1660Tichipped - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
External power supply is lame.voicequal - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
The picture actually shows two DC inputs for redundant A+B sources. Also moves a significant source of heat outside the case.RaCkBaLLz - Thursday, April 25, 2019 - link
Learnt?PeachNCream - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
Should be learned.0siris - Friday, April 26, 2019 - link
They're both perfectly acceptable, like "dreamed" and "dreamt", though the -t variant is more commonly used in Britain than it is in North America.tmanini - Saturday, April 27, 2019 - link
no it shouldn't.Samus - Sunday, April 28, 2019 - link
Oh. Wow.vidal6x6 - Thursday, May 2, 2019 - link
got here 2x l5630 40w tdp with a passive zalman cpns10x open bench and it run about 45ºc.The xeon X5675 95W TDP have some heat problems. This system with this tiny heat sink will fail!
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