Cartridge idea is very nice. If the screen has 10-bit color then releasing a cartridge with Quadro or Radeon Pro would entice design/marketing departments to buy these so that they could use them to collaborate and present in the color spaces they edit and print in.
Found the tech specs online, and it does have a 10-bit panel. But seeing as Microsoft doesn't put professional GPUs in their Surface Studio which they market as a "creative" device and therefor programs like Photoshop can't show wide-color gamut, I doubt Microsoft has the brains to offer a cartridge with one either.
Wow, $9000 and it only comes with 128GB SSD (worth what? $30@OEM pricing?) What an embarrassment! It looks bad on a $1000+ laptop, but this is a brand new low...
This is a conferencing tool with a PC, not a tool for video calling on facebook. If memory serves, the competition here (conferencing tools for meeting rooms/collaboration) are quite a bit more expensive.
MS would lose what, 100$ by offering a 1TB SSD (street price of 1TB of the cheapest M2 SSD - Intel's 660p). By that upgrade, the only "oh, that is low" spec would look much better.
As for utility, it wouldn't hurt to install programs to demo stuff during meetings - to avoid messing with remote desktop.
How much storage do you think a conferencing display needs? Nothing is going to be coming from the local storage except the apps. It could come with 64GB of SSD storage and no one would notice a difference.
I disagree. Any pc that runs Win10 will completely fill a 64gb drive with just two of the (semi?-)annual major updates for the OS with zero user apps installed unless the user runs the drive cleanup after every update and even then the free space will shrink down into nothing within a few years due to gradual OS and app bloat. Case in point: my work computer only has a handful of apps installed with the big ones being MS Office and Autodesk Civil3D and yet the Windows folder is sitting at 52.6GB right now, Users @ 23.3GB, Prog files @13.6GB, Prog (x86)@13.6GB. Then there's swap file/hibernation/etc. And this is all on a Win 7 install that's 4 yrs old. It started out at ~30GB all-in. Anecdotally, on my Win10 install at home, it's a lot more aggressive with installing updates and unwanted garbage apps (Candy Crush,etc.) by default. 1TB is probably overkill, but I think 256GB should be the minimum even if you don't intent to use that storage but plan on getting >5yrs of use out of that machine.
That depends on how they sync content between the account for the display and end users. I've seen some weird stuff happen were the display will try to pull an entire directory then sync it back. It had a couple of video files worth a few GB. Point is that the storage can be touched. I would consider 128 GB on the small size but 256 GB or 512 GB would be more than enough.
what you are paying for here is the custom, low volume, high quality display and the custom software Microsoft has made for this platform. Not the PC inside.
Yep, the margins on this are insane. Probably a lot of the customers won't even use the whiteboard feature and will set the screen so far away that 4K vs. 1080p won't make and difference. By which time you effectively have a cheap 50" TV ($199 from walmart) and a thin client PC with Skype on it.
You better want to use the extra features if you buy this!
How is the display connected to the cartridge? I don't see any cables floating around... Are cables hidden in the "frames" (poles, etc.), or stick to it? Or is this just marketing photo?
Microsoft will start selling its Surface Hub 2S 50-inch this June at a price of $8,999. The larger 85-inch model will be available in 2020. https://www.playrounders.com
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Freakie - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
Cartridge idea is very nice. If the screen has 10-bit color then releasing a cartridge with Quadro or Radeon Pro would entice design/marketing departments to buy these so that they could use them to collaborate and present in the color spaces they edit and print in.Freakie - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
Found the tech specs online, and it does have a 10-bit panel. But seeing as Microsoft doesn't put professional GPUs in their Surface Studio which they market as a "creative" device and therefor programs like Photoshop can't show wide-color gamut, I doubt Microsoft has the brains to offer a cartridge with one either.hybrid2d4x4 - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
Wow, $9000 and it only comes with 128GB SSD (worth what? $30@OEM pricing?)What an embarrassment! It looks bad on a $1000+ laptop, but this is a brand new low...
Drumsticks - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
This is a conferencing tool with a PC, not a tool for video calling on facebook. If memory serves, the competition here (conferencing tools for meeting rooms/collaboration) are quite a bit more expensive.Zizy - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
MS would lose what, 100$ by offering a 1TB SSD (street price of 1TB of the cheapest M2 SSD - Intel's 660p). By that upgrade, the only "oh, that is low" spec would look much better.As for utility, it wouldn't hurt to install programs to demo stuff during meetings - to avoid messing with remote desktop.
jordanclock - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
How much storage do you think a conferencing display needs? Nothing is going to be coming from the local storage except the apps. It could come with 64GB of SSD storage and no one would notice a difference.hybrid2d4x4 - Monday, April 22, 2019 - link
I disagree. Any pc that runs Win10 will completely fill a 64gb drive with just two of the (semi?-)annual major updates for the OS with zero user apps installed unless the user runs the drive cleanup after every update and even then the free space will shrink down into nothing within a few years due to gradual OS and app bloat. Case in point: my work computer only has a handful of apps installed with the big ones being MS Office and Autodesk Civil3D and yet the Windows folder is sitting at 52.6GB right now, Users @ 23.3GB, Prog files @13.6GB, Prog (x86)@13.6GB. Then there's swap file/hibernation/etc. And this is all on a Win 7 install that's 4 yrs old. It started out at ~30GB all-in. Anecdotally, on my Win10 install at home, it's a lot more aggressive with installing updates and unwanted garbage apps (Candy Crush,etc.) by default. 1TB is probably overkill, but I think 256GB should be the minimum even if you don't intent to use that storage but plan on getting >5yrs of use out of that machine.Kevin G - Monday, April 22, 2019 - link
That depends on how they sync content between the account for the display and end users. I've seen some weird stuff happen were the display will try to pull an entire directory then sync it back. It had a couple of video files worth a few GB. Point is that the storage can be touched. I would consider 128 GB on the small size but 256 GB or 512 GB would be more than enough.skavi - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
what you are paying for here is the custom, low volume, high quality display and the custom software Microsoft has made for this platform. Not the PC inside.CheapSushi - Friday, April 19, 2019 - link
Can you describe in detail why this conference display would need a 1TB drive, for example?stephenbrooks - Sunday, April 21, 2019 - link
Yep, the margins on this are insane. Probably a lot of the customers won't even use the whiteboard feature and will set the screen so far away that 4K vs. 1080p won't make and difference. By which time you effectively have a cheap 50" TV ($199 from walmart) and a thin client PC with Skype on it.You better want to use the extra features if you buy this!
Midwayman - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
It'll look great in the executive conference room.Rictorhell - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
Let's have an Anandtech Giveaway with one of these as the prize, please.MamiyaOtaru - Thursday, April 18, 2019 - link
look at that dude's pantsCheapSushi - Friday, April 19, 2019 - link
It's a trend now (showing your ankles and slightly higher).HyperText - Friday, April 19, 2019 - link
How is the display connected to the cartridge? I don't see any cables floating around...Are cables hidden in the "frames" (poles, etc.), or stick to it?
Or is this just marketing photo?
GreenReaper - Friday, April 19, 2019 - link
The first picture clearly shows a cable on the left-hand side (well, it seems clear to me...).Gunbuster - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
Let me guess it has the same terrible $1 wifi/bluetooth Avastar chip Microsoft is married to. Will this be product #40?yogadull - Saturday, May 11, 2019 - link
Microsoft will start selling its Surface Hub 2S 50-inch this June at a price of $8,999. The larger 85-inch model will be available in 2020. https://www.playrounders.com