i dont want to brag (because i really dislike gigabyte recently) but i have owned almost all chipsets from intel going back to p45 exclusively on gigabyte boards. i used them for a solid 10 years, religiously. they were my only board to go to, until i got tricked and humiliated buy the am4 boards they came out with on the mid end. never again man. im on an msi board and there is no going back. the bios is just buggy on all gigabyte boards. its not the best. they need to change things man.
Got an H81 Gigabyte board, and, I understand it's cheap but that bios is not only ugly but utterly buggy as well, surely they could have done better especially seeing what Asus can do for the same price.
I've been building since the 80386. My first computer job was for a builder for three and a half years...I'm now 24 years into an IT career.
The BIOS could be better on this board in that it's somewhat disorganized, and not as intuitive as it could be. However, the features all work properly (currently at the F9 revision) and the board itself is rock-solid hardware.
This board, hands down, has the best VRM and feature implementation of boards in the mid-price range. ASUS delivers a better BIOS, but when you consider you can get this board for $180USD, I find the ROG Z390-H, Z390-F don't have as good of VRM setup, and the Z390-E doesn't either and costs far more. The MSI Z390 Gaming Edge AC has almost as good VRMs, but its featureset and polish is not quite as nice.
Considering the combination of features, price, and stability, the Z390 Aorus Pro WiFi is a mid-price bargain. I'm running an i9-9900K at constant 4.7GHz turbo on all eight cores without any effort on my part, at 100% load for days on end (Folding@Home) with two GTX 1070s in WiFi and it hasn't complained once.
I'm running this board with a 8700k (Delidded) at 5.3Ghz all core with a AVX offset of 2. It passes every stress test I've thrown at it and the intel XTU has me in the top 3% of 8700k's. Not bad for a $200 board. See the results for yourself. Look up my username in hwbot. (Adding the like flags this post as spam.)
I’ve used z97x gigabyte board for 5 years straight not knowing RAM running at single channel all the time. Tried to fix it every possible way but never got it right. Last bios update was stuck on beta bios so, no help from gigabyte either. Right now I need new pc but also very sketchy about gigabyte boards.
If your ram is running single channel you plugged the second dimm into the wrong slot. 2 of the 4 slots are wired to channel A, the other two to channel B. Nothing in software can change which slots go where.
I'm going to say the same thing DanNeely said... if you did that, it is very likely you didn't have the DIMMS plugged into the correct sockets. Before this board, I had Gigabyte's Z97X-UD5H-Black. I ran it in 16GB (2 x 8GB) and 32GB (4 x 8GB) configurations and never had this problem. I ran the board for five years, with an i7-4790K running all cores at max turbo of 4.4GHz, with no hiccups whatsoever, solid as a rock. I like ASUS' BIOS, but not their misleading VRMS, nor their quality control (multiple reported issues there). I don't think MSI is bad at this range, but the similar Z390 Pro Carbon AC is $20-25 more. I've had this board for three weeks, two of them running an i9-9900K at 100% load on max eight-core turbo of 4.7GHz with two GTX 1070 cards also running on high load (Folding@Home) 24/7 and it has been rock solid. About the only things I wish I had were the debug LED (used rarely) and the power/reset buttons on the backplate (not found without paying above $250 for a board, not worth it); those are nice, but not necessary. I wouldn't hesitate to buy this board again
Unfortunately the people considering the Bios on a mobo are really a niche. I just put together two AM4 builds. Gigabyte gave some troubles untill I found the right bios. Asus also gave me troubles. 4 creative ways to update the bios. None worked. In the end asus told me to replace the thing because apperantly the current version was known not to work propperly. I'm on a time schedule. Who has time for that. I just hope the customer never resets it's bios.
The problem I've had with several Z390 boards is their inability to handle the 9900k at full load above 4.5ghz. Prime95 will reduce the clock speed to about 4.5ghz despite settings. It's not just a VRM temp issue causing the downclock. You're better off with an 8700k than a 9900k imo with this board. I wish the 9900k OC was tested with prime95 in the review :)
Any version of Prime95 after 26.6 use AVX instead of SSE instructions. Most people overclock their CPU to be stable at the workloads they typically perform, and 100% AVX is not a typical workload for most people. To help people overclock, the Z390 chipset allows the detection of AVX workloads and allow an overclock deduction (AVX Offset) to continue to be stable and not create so much heat. I tried disabling my AVX offset and it would always crash my 9900K running at 5.0 GHz within a couple seconds of starting the Prime95 AVX test.
interesting, asus my z390i-gaming and i9-9900k (with evga 750p2 psu and nzxt h41 AIO cooler) can pull 250w running prime95 or y-cruncher...(hwinfo watt readout) (serious heat... 95-100c) but it does not crash...
Did you turn off AVX tests to run Prime95? AVX testing was added in recent versions, and really raises the temps. Testing for stability, most recommend turning AVX off. I haven't done Prime95, but I'm rock-stable 24/7 for days/weeks of Folding@home running all eight CPU cores of my 9900K to 100% at 4.8GHz using this board.
Neither - its the talon(claw). Just imagine an eagle/falcon swooping down to attack its prey.
On a side note - Gigabyte doesn't cheap out on features (wifi, 1220 audio and solid vrm) but I do agree a wonky bios can ruin a positive user experience.
After reading about poor OC bios section - on their b450 and x470 Ryzen boards, in the end I went with Asus, even though I had to pay after %15.
Seems weird that the talon is pointed the wrong way up? :)
I've had pleasureable experiences with Gigabyte during the P55 era and have a nice little parallel port Atom ITX board. I'm currently running an MSI mainboard and have had great AsRock ones.
I'm sure more than a few readers would a tad more interested in knowing if this board is '9900K- capable/adept/marginal', vice it's semi-good ratings with the 18 month old 8700K....
In case anyone was wondering what the $10 extra for the Pro gets you over the Elite, it's literally a USB type-C port on the back panel instead of a USB type-A. Nope, not even an EXTRA port, just a different one - I bet it only runs at 5Gbps too! Product differentiation at its most ridiculous.
LOL, so the Z390 Aorus Elite (no I'm not typing it in all caps) is $10 cheaper than the Aorus Pro... guess what that $10 gets you... a USB type-C port on the back panel instead of USB type-A. That's it, there's literally no other difference.
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I have to ask this. I havent bought a pc since 4 years ago or so. have MB prices come down? I remember when the top asus rog mb were selling for $450+ and now I see rog prices are in the $250 for a decent board. even a simple board cost $250 then. now for $120 or so you can get a basic full atx MB. what changed?
I’m assuming it doesn’t have a TPM ability. I get most gamers don’t care, but it’s a feature that ASROCK keeps present on a wide range of their boards, and isn’t brought up in most reviews.
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austinsguitar - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
not with gigabytes current bios implementation.imaheadcase - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
What a wonderful insight into something only you know.austinsguitar - Saturday, April 13, 2019 - link
i dont want to brag (because i really dislike gigabyte recently) but i have owned almost all chipsets from intel going back to p45 exclusively on gigabyte boards. i used them for a solid 10 years, religiously. they were my only board to go to, until i got tricked and humiliated buy the am4 boards they came out with on the mid end. never again man. im on an msi board and there is no going back. the bios is just buggy on all gigabyte boards. its not the best. they need to change things man.GlossGhost - Sunday, April 14, 2019 - link
Got an H81 Gigabyte board, and, I understand it's cheap but that bios is not only ugly but utterly buggy as well, surely they could have done better especially seeing what Asus can do for the same price.LoneWolf15 - Friday, May 17, 2019 - link
I'm going to be straight up....I've been building since the 80386. My first computer job was for a builder for three and a half years...I'm now 24 years into an IT career.
The BIOS could be better on this board in that it's somewhat disorganized, and not as intuitive as it could be. However, the features all work properly (currently at the F9 revision) and the board itself is rock-solid hardware.
This board, hands down, has the best VRM and feature implementation of boards in the mid-price range. ASUS delivers a better BIOS, but when you consider you can get this board for $180USD, I find the ROG Z390-H, Z390-F don't have as good of VRM setup, and the Z390-E doesn't either and costs far more. The MSI Z390 Gaming Edge AC has almost as good VRMs, but its featureset and polish is not quite as nice.
Considering the combination of features, price, and stability, the Z390 Aorus Pro WiFi is a mid-price bargain. I'm running an i9-9900K at constant 4.7GHz turbo on all eight cores without any effort on my part, at 100% load for days on end (Folding@Home) with two GTX 1070s in WiFi and it hasn't complained once.
psedog - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
I'm running this board with a 8700k (Delidded) at 5.3Ghz all core with a AVX offset of 2. It passes every stress test I've thrown at it and the intel XTU has me in the top 3% of 8700k's. Not bad for a $200 board.See the results for yourself. Look up my username in hwbot. (Adding the like flags this post as spam.)
Native7i - Sunday, April 14, 2019 - link
I’ve used z97x gigabyte board for 5 years straight not knowing RAM running at single channel all the time. Tried to fix it every possible way but never got it right. Last bios update was stuck on beta bios so, no help from gigabyte either. Right now I need new pc but also very sketchy about gigabyte boards.DanNeely - Tuesday, April 16, 2019 - link
If your ram is running single channel you plugged the second dimm into the wrong slot. 2 of the 4 slots are wired to channel A, the other two to channel B. Nothing in software can change which slots go where.LoneWolf15 - Saturday, May 25, 2019 - link
I'm going to say the same thing DanNeely said... if you did that, it is very likely you didn't have the DIMMS plugged into the correct sockets. Before this board, I had Gigabyte's Z97X-UD5H-Black. I ran it in 16GB (2 x 8GB) and 32GB (4 x 8GB) configurations and never had this problem. I ran the board for five years, with an i7-4790K running all cores at max turbo of 4.4GHz, with no hiccups whatsoever, solid as a rock.I like ASUS' BIOS, but not their misleading VRMS, nor their quality control (multiple reported issues there). I don't think MSI is bad at this range, but the similar Z390 Pro Carbon AC is $20-25 more. I've had this board for three weeks, two of them running an i9-9900K at 100% load on max eight-core turbo of 4.7GHz with two GTX 1070 cards also running on high load (Folding@Home) 24/7 and it has been rock solid. About the only things I wish I had were the debug LED (used rarely) and the power/reset buttons on the backplate (not found without paying above $250 for a board, not worth it); those are nice, but not necessary. I wouldn't hesitate to buy this board again
Foeketijn - Monday, April 15, 2019 - link
Unfortunately the people considering the Bios on a mobo are really a niche. I just put together two AM4 builds. Gigabyte gave some troubles untill I found the right bios. Asus also gave me troubles. 4 creative ways to update the bios. None worked. In the end asus told me to replace the thing because apperantly the current version was known not to work propperly.I'm on a time schedule. Who has time for that. I just hope the customer never resets it's bios.
Alistair - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
The problem I've had with several Z390 boards is their inability to handle the 9900k at full load above 4.5ghz. Prime95 will reduce the clock speed to about 4.5ghz despite settings. It's not just a VRM temp issue causing the downclock. You're better off with an 8700k than a 9900k imo with this board. I wish the 9900k OC was tested with prime95 in the review :)dotes12 - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
Any version of Prime95 after 26.6 use AVX instead of SSE instructions. Most people overclock their CPU to be stable at the workloads they typically perform, and 100% AVX is not a typical workload for most people. To help people overclock, the Z390 chipset allows the detection of AVX workloads and allow an overclock deduction (AVX Offset) to continue to be stable and not create so much heat. I tried disabling my AVX offset and it would always crash my 9900K running at 5.0 GHz within a couple seconds of starting the Prime95 AVX test.Surfacround - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
interesting, asus my z390i-gaming and i9-9900k (with evga 750p2 psu and nzxt h41 AIO cooler) can pull 250w running prime95 or y-cruncher...(hwinfo watt readout) (serious heat... 95-100c) but it does not crash...weevilone - Monday, April 15, 2019 - link
So the solution to rigorous AVX workloads on the 9900K is to go with a CPU that uses fewer cores to make your overclock look better? Ok..LoneWolf15 - Sunday, June 2, 2019 - link
Did you turn off AVX tests to run Prime95? AVX testing was added in recent versions, and really raises the temps. Testing for stability, most recommend turning AVX off.I haven't done Prime95, but I'm rock-stable 24/7 for days/weeks of Folding@home running all eight CPU cores of my 9900K to 100% at 4.8GHz using this board.
drexnx - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
I can never tell if the lower part of the aorus logo is the lower jaw of the bird, or if it's a bird-man hybrid and it's doing a bicep curl.Cellar Door - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
Neither - its the talon(claw). Just imagine an eagle/falcon swooping down to attack its prey.On a side note - Gigabyte doesn't cheap out on features (wifi, 1220 audio and solid vrm) but I do agree a wonky bios can ruin a positive user experience.
After reading about poor OC bios section - on their b450 and x470 Ryzen boards, in the end I went with Asus, even though I had to pay after %15.
Death666Angel - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
Seems weird that the talon is pointed the wrong way up? :)I've had pleasureable experiences with Gigabyte during the P55 era and have a nice little parallel port Atom ITX board. I'm currently running an MSI mainboard and have had great AsRock ones.
MDD1963 - Saturday, April 13, 2019 - link
So the talon hand is doing a biceps curl/posing routine? :)29a - Friday, April 12, 2019 - link
birdman for sureGastec - Saturday, April 13, 2019 - link
I thought it was a screaming falcon.MDD1963 - Saturday, April 13, 2019 - link
I'm sure more than a few readers would a tad more interested in knowing if this board is '9900K- capable/adept/marginal', vice it's semi-good ratings with the 18 month old 8700K....V1tru - Saturday, April 13, 2019 - link
Is the same board with am4 socket already out?The_Assimilator - Saturday, April 13, 2019 - link
In case anyone was wondering what the $10 extra for the Pro gets you over the Elite, it's literally a USB type-C port on the back panel instead of a USB type-A. Nope, not even an EXTRA port, just a different one - I bet it only runs at 5Gbps too! Product differentiation at its most ridiculous.LOL, so the Z390 Aorus Elite (no I'm not typing it in all caps) is $10 cheaper than the Aorus Pro... guess what that $10 gets you... a USB type-C port on the back panel instead of USB type-A. That's it, there's literally no other difference.
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rocketman122 - Sunday, April 14, 2019 - link
I have to ask this. I havent bought a pc since 4 years ago or so. have MB prices come down? I remember when the top asus rog mb were selling for $450+ and now I see rog prices are in the $250 for a decent board. even a simple board cost $250 then. now for $120 or so you can get a basic full atx MB. what changed?rocketman122 - Sunday, April 14, 2019 - link
I may off but the ASUS ROG RAMPAGE V EXTREME were selling for big bucks in 2014. I cant remember which but saw the rog boards going for $450 and up.Salty Wagyu - Sunday, April 14, 2019 - link
So what driver was causing the high DPC latency?m16 - Sunday, April 14, 2019 - link
I’m assuming it doesn’t have a TPM ability. I get most gamers don’t care, but it’s a feature that ASROCK keeps present on a wide range of their boards, and isn’t brought up in most reviews.Gayle12310 - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link
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