i would like it for the gsync but hdr usually has a processing / frame buffering overhead that increases input lag. as well I am not too concerned with having nvidia shield technology (for the same reason). i think they will sell well enough to justify their development. but that is only due to them being the only contenders in this niche market.
if i could get a true low input lag gsync tv sized monitor with 120hz or higher and for less than 5k$ then we are talking
screw capital letters! those things are for noobz and grammar police to swing at innocent people like a cudgel...as it standings i am all for the just ignoring the shift key and the caps lock entirely along with omitting punctuation if more of that second example finds its way into Anandtech's comments section. after all that would improve article quality a little and almost make it worth wading through auto play video advert hell...almost....
Wait.. The LG e-series is already 4k 120hz? That's awesome. But what's the latency?
The perfect set for a desktop is a 36-40" 16:9. Once you get used to the size you can't really go back to a tiny 27" monitor. Either 4k, 1440p, or 1080p would be fine with me. The biggest issue is size and refresh rate. For $300 usd, I can get a BenQ 31.5" 144hz set right now, but it's curved, and i don't like the curve at all... Need one of these in 40".
Its an interesting question - but on the spec sheet you are correct to note the gsync. Also the shield integration.
What are we giving up is the question? LG and Sony and Samsung options in here have the benefit of TV engineering teams working on all the algorithms and secret sauces behind the scenes. Sony TVs are generally a little better at processing motion since their motion algorithms and display tech are better geared to this in movies. Will the HP design team have tuned their algorithms to same degree so Im not spending 5 grand but watching movies with inferior quality vs other options at this pricepoint? Do they have the local dimming process tight so we get the deepest blacks without crush and with good shadow detail in near black? I doubt it!
So if i'm spending 5 grand at this level right - Im thinking about the best sony and samsung LCDs at this pricepoint - and with HDMI standards getting VRR and SAmsung already having it - im not sure what advantages will be there long term with something like the Omen - if the next iteration of all big brands are likely to have VRR through freesync almost standard.
the issue THERE is that connecting an nvidia GPU to a TV like that over HDMI? Cant use freesync over HDMI with nvidia - so im picturing a few years from now when AMD cards are better @ 4k resolutions being the time when the OMen will no longer make sense.
With OLED HDR you have the ABL limit: brightness already varies based on total illumination power, which combined with VRR's variable frame delivery times means even greater brightness variation as screen content changes. For FALD, ever other FALD driver available cannot handle VRR correctly: either just disabling local dimming and operating as SDR, or having a big disconnect between the image on the LCD panel and where the backlight is actually illuminating (due to the slow update rate of the FALD elements).
Like with desktop-sized G-sync HDR, the cost goes into that one-of-a-kind controller and the massively overbuilt backlight driver circuitry.
So you don't have a taskbar, or consistently placed UI elements in your applications? Do you reskin Windows to make window management buttons invisible? Or if all you'd use this for is games, do you not play a lot of the same game, with the same UI elements in the same spots? Yes, you would. There are methods of compensating for burn-in, but none are effective for largely static images like a PC desktop (pixel shifting won't help against your Chrome taskbar icon burning in - you'd have to move the entire icon quite a distance.
It would likely take a few years, but burn-in would inevitably happen. It's unavoidable with OLED, and one of the key reasons why it's a technology poorly suited to PC use.
Valantar, you'll use this for gaming, not for office work. It's not marketed as a daily driver. Just look at the promo pics. This is a gaming oriented TV basically.
Even some games have static content that could conceivably burn in but if you spend 5K on this it's probably less of a concern that in 3-4 years it shows some signs.
The burn in problem doesnt go away when you turn off the screen. It adds up. The more you have the same pixels active with the same colors (or not at all - black bars on cinema movies or 4:3), the quicker they will age. You WILL have burn in at some point, there is no way around it. On a PC you will have HUDs of games and a task bar and desktop icons and an email client, and a browser, etc, which will all be the same position all the time. There is a reason why OLED hasnt established on monitors. And even on TVs its problematic if you play console or watch the same station a lot. Deal with it, OLED isnt what we hoped for.
How long did it take before you started seeing burn in?
Had some down time this past week and spent roughly twelve hours a day each day playing through Final Fantasy XII on my primary gaming display, an E6 OLED. All uniformity color tests are *far* more uniform than any LCD I've seen.
This has been my primary gaming display for three years and I see burn in like I see unicorns.
hes talking about mura not burnin I think. slight variations only visible on fullblack sections. its usually present from day 1 on oled. I havent ever seen burnin on any display Ive ever used and I have used every type usually for 8 hours a day average over long periods.
knowledgeable people say burnin may be reversed by using images that change rapidly. this may be why almost nobody sees it.
OLED burn-in is irreversible once it's actually set in, and is actually most visible on an all-white screen, as what actually happens is the subpixels wearing out unevenly and growing dimmer. The worst cases I've seen are demo smartphones and tablets (specifically Samsung, who purportedly have the best OLED tech around). Of course, these show the same demo videos for large portions of the day 6 or 7 days a week, but the videos are designed to not have any static elements, with even text mostly being in movement or on screen for just a couple of seconds at a time, and a lot of color variation. At the store I used to work at, every single Samsung AMOLED phone and tablet had very visible burn-in within a year. A PC display would likely get it even sooner, given the higher amount of static display elements, but this would of course be offset by less use per day. I still wouldn't trust it to last more than a few years.
There's no reason it should cost anywhere close to that. Heck, there's no reason it shouldn't be able to cost less than this.
There's no reason why TV manufacturers couldn't offer something that is 90% of what this is (MVA panel, doing 120Hz, VRR especially since HDMI 2.1 will bring it as part of the spec, HDR) for 1/3 the price. If I'm AMD I'd be trying to help companies do just that and undercut this thing massively. Try to get brands to offer whole group of models (get them to offer 32-65" models; the 32" ones would be especially popular with PC gamers I think) with these features/capabilities. Get Microsoft and Sony to work deals to bundle or possibly integrate their consoles with them.
Products like these shouldn't cost any more than normal ones either since they could ditch the smart functions knowing that people are buying them to let their PC/video card and even console handle those. This way, it gets out of the way, they could even ditch their processing controls since again the intended market is going to use other devices for that anyway. Maybe have some simple scaling features (so for instance, it could take 1080/720 signals up to native resolution since they'd scale easily to native resolution and with 120Hz refresh you could scale 24/30/60 content.
Oh, and this would also be a great market for Samsung to target with their microLED displays (the ones where they're made of multiple individual panels, so for 65" 4K, you'd have 4 ~32" 1080p panels, so if you have several friends over you could split it and each person gets their own display). I know MicroLED is expensive right now, but I'd think they could probably be more competitive with these BFG Displays, and they should easily trounce them in performance and even features (these don't even have HDMI 2.1?!? Which they try and make up for it with the DisplayPort, but that's only useful for PC; plus while the Shield is solid, it could use an update).
An updated model, that gets the price much more reasonable, includes HDMI 2.1, and maybe if they can talk Nintendo into using a new Tegra chip that pairs current ARM CPUs and current Nvidia GPU on 7nm, an integrated Switch Dock with also wireless display capability so that the Switch could work like the Wii U tablet pad. This updated Switch when docked would charge but would also take over the duties that the Shield is doing on these first versions. They could also include motion tracking and IR cameras so you could do those things. Maybe offer an updated Wii Sports like suite.
Yes, there is a reason. It's called development. You can't just throw parts off the shelf together and hope everything works. Otherwise you would be buying panels yourself. Why do you think it's taken so long to get a 4k screen above 60hz in the first place? How are you going to incorporate fald, connections, gsync, remotes, sound, correct color for pc and tv, write the firmware, design the frame, power supply, etc. Now pay all the people it took to develop, test, qa, manage project, and then get final approval. Then there's an entire manufacturing concept you haven't considered because they aren't going to sell millions of these, so you need to find someone that will do a short supply run. Then, pay for taxes, pictures, packaging, logistics, keeping the lights on, water, insurance, heat & ac, transportation, marketing. And have money left over so you can develop more things. And then add on this is a niche product that 99.8% of the population doesn't care about it.
The C8 lists at $2700 for this size, the C9 is shipping with HDMI 2.1 but we don't have a price yet so we'll say that'll add another $100(probably will be less if history is an example), then add another $200 on for built in Shield hardware with a controller in the box, then we'll throw nVidia $500 for g sync tax and we end up at $3500. You could pair that with a 2080Ti and still be under what this is going for.
LG is shipping the 9 series OLED with HDMI 2.1- up to 10k 120Hz. Maybe I missed something, but I thought display port capped out at 8k 60Hz? Yes, I realize there is certain functionality dp has that HDMI doesn't, and vice versa, but *for* TVs HDMI 2.1 is just plain better. I guess having like a legacy hookup for obsolete hardware maybe?
That soundbar could have gone to saving to the consumer! Their marketing team could not even put a pc together to run this thing. Isent HP a Computer company 1st and a accessory company 2nd. When i hear HP i never would think enthusiast anything.
Love Gsync, because its making sure there are far tighter specs on monitors. Freesync ones are almost always far slower in input lag and response time, not to mention Overdrive. So I will always buy the Gsync version, even if I wouldnt have an Nvidia card.
But that cant make the price of this TV... monitor... whatever. Its a freaking VA panel! The cheapest you can get! And it most likely has one or more fans built in, which most likely arent silent ones either, like on other 4K Gsync monitors. 5k for that is a laugh, as if VW would sell low end Golf as a Bugatti...
Oh and AMVA is an AUO technology. That means this panel is AUO... LOL! Have fun with all the dead pixels, BLB and dust particles inside the panel. Theres a reason AUO panels are dirt cheap. Even the ones they sell for $2k on monitors are only worth $200.
Its still much cheaper to produce than IPS. That should reflect on the price, but the price is as if they invented a new technology that has no weaknesses.
Does this do 1440p over display port? I can't seem to get a straight answer or someone who has one in their hands to test it. Saved my money it's either this or Samsung q9fn 65" with FREESYNC.
Meh. They really have to release these things at 65" to justify the exorbitant price. We have a 65 inch here in the house and its too big except the living room or kitchen. I have been using 43" inch TV as a monitor for one year and just feels the right step up from a desktop monitor.
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Fx1 - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
So it costs double the price of a E series OLED from LG.What a joke.
Opencg - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
i would like it for the gsync but hdr usually has a processing / frame buffering overhead that increases input lag. as well I am not too concerned with having nvidia shield technology (for the same reason). i think they will sell well enough to justify their development. but that is only due to them being the only contenders in this niche market.if i could get a true low input lag gsync tv sized monitor with 120hz or higher and for less than 5k$ then we are talking
damianrobertjones - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
Capitals can be your friend.Opencg - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
SORRYNotmyusualid - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
He was right to highlight it.Capitalization and punctuation, are important.
Helping Jack, off a horse.
Is not the same as:
helping jack off a horse
SORRY.
Alistair - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
nice ;)PeachNCream - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
screw capital letters! those things are for noobz and grammar police to swing at innocent people like a cudgel...as it standings i am all for the just ignoring the shift key and the caps lock entirely along with omitting punctuation if more of that second example finds its way into Anandtech's comments section. after all that would improve article quality a little and almost make it worth wading through auto play video advert hell...almost....Opencg - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
right im sure your brain cant parse any meaning without capitals. its not for idiots tho. so kindly just dont read it pleaseMatthmaroo - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
5kNo gsync
No free sync
HDMI 2.0a
DP 1.4
other than it being 5k only a clueless moron would by this
BenSkywalker - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
This is GSync and it's not 5k, it's 4k.Not sure where your confusion is coming from?
StevoLincolnite - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
5k is the price.boozed - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
Must be putting all of his brain power into insultsaabeba - Wednesday, May 8, 2019 - link
5K dollars, not pixels.flyingpants265 - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Wait.. The LG e-series is already 4k 120hz? That's awesome. But what's the latency?The perfect set for a desktop is a 36-40" 16:9. Once you get used to the size you can't really go back to a tiny 27" monitor. Either 4k, 1440p, or 1080p would be fine with me. The biggest issue is size and refresh rate. For $300 usd, I can get a BenQ 31.5" 144hz set right now, but it's curved, and i don't like the curve at all... Need one of these in 40".
guitarmassacre - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
What's the value of this over the 65" LG C8? The G-sync?praktik - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
Its an interesting question - but on the spec sheet you are correct to note the gsync. Also the shield integration.What are we giving up is the question? LG and Sony and Samsung options in here have the benefit of TV engineering teams working on all the algorithms and secret sauces behind the scenes. Sony TVs are generally a little better at processing motion since their motion algorithms and display tech are better geared to this in movies. Will the HP design team have tuned their algorithms to same degree so Im not spending 5 grand but watching movies with inferior quality vs other options at this pricepoint? Do they have the local dimming process tight so we get the deepest blacks without crush and with good shadow detail in near black? I doubt it!
So if i'm spending 5 grand at this level right - Im thinking about the best sony and samsung LCDs at this pricepoint - and with HDMI standards getting VRR and SAmsung already having it - im not sure what advantages will be there long term with something like the Omen - if the next iteration of all big brands are likely to have VRR through freesync almost standard.
the issue THERE is that connecting an nvidia GPU to a TV like that over HDMI? Cant use freesync over HDMI with nvidia - so im picturing a few years from now when AMD cards are better @ 4k resolutions being the time when the OMen will no longer make sense.
FullmetalTitan - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
I guess. I HAVE a 65" LG C8 and a 1000W worth of audio (7.2.1 with rear speakers), for like 2/3 of this price. The Gsync isn't worth that much to meedzieba - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Variable refresh rate with HDR without issues.With OLED HDR you have the ABL limit: brightness already varies based on total illumination power, which combined with VRR's variable frame delivery times means even greater brightness variation as screen content changes. For FALD, ever other FALD driver available cannot handle VRR correctly: either just disabling local dimming and operating as SDR, or having a big disconnect between the image on the LCD panel and where the backlight is actually illuminating (due to the slow update rate of the FALD elements).
Like with desktop-sized G-sync HDR, the cost goes into that one-of-a-kind controller and the massively overbuilt backlight driver circuitry.
Vitor - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
Make it Oled, 10 bit color with hdmi 2.1 that I would consider it.Flunk - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
I hope you have $20,000 lying around then.Valantar - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
And another $20 000 in a couple of years when the burn-in gets bad (this is for use with a PC, after all).imaheadcase - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Stop spreading FUD about burn in. Its not a issue unless you want to be a idiot and run a static screen 24/7..which no one on a PC does.Valantar - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
So you don't have a taskbar, or consistently placed UI elements in your applications? Do you reskin Windows to make window management buttons invisible? Or if all you'd use this for is games, do you not play a lot of the same game, with the same UI elements in the same spots? Yes, you would. There are methods of compensating for burn-in, but none are effective for largely static images like a PC desktop (pixel shifting won't help against your Chrome taskbar icon burning in - you'd have to move the entire icon quite a distance.It would likely take a few years, but burn-in would inevitably happen. It's unavoidable with OLED, and one of the key reasons why it's a technology poorly suited to PC use.
close - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Valantar, you'll use this for gaming, not for office work. It's not marketed as a daily driver. Just look at the promo pics. This is a gaming oriented TV basically.Even some games have static content that could conceivably burn in but if you spend 5K on this it's probably less of a concern that in 3-4 years it shows some signs.
Beaver M. - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
The burn in problem doesnt go away when you turn off the screen. It adds up. The more you have the same pixels active with the same colors (or not at all - black bars on cinema movies or 4:3), the quicker they will age. You WILL have burn in at some point, there is no way around it. On a PC you will have HUDs of games and a task bar and desktop icons and an email client, and a browser, etc, which will all be the same position all the time.There is a reason why OLED hasnt established on monitors. And even on TVs its problematic if you play console or watch the same station a lot.
Deal with it, OLED isnt what we hoped for.
BenSkywalker - Saturday, March 16, 2019 - link
How long did it take before you started seeing burn in?Had some down time this past week and spent roughly twelve hours a day each day playing through Final Fantasy XII on my primary gaming display, an E6 OLED. All uniformity color tests are *far* more uniform than any LCD I've seen.
This has been my primary gaming display for three years and I see burn in like I see unicorns.
Opencg - Sunday, March 17, 2019 - link
hes talking about mura not burnin I think. slight variations only visible on fullblack sections. its usually present from day 1 on oled. I havent ever seen burnin on any display Ive ever used and I have used every type usually for 8 hours a day average over long periods.knowledgeable people say burnin may be reversed by using images that change rapidly. this may be why almost nobody sees it.
Valantar - Monday, March 18, 2019 - link
OLED burn-in is irreversible once it's actually set in, and is actually most visible on an all-white screen, as what actually happens is the subpixels wearing out unevenly and growing dimmer. The worst cases I've seen are demo smartphones and tablets (specifically Samsung, who purportedly have the best OLED tech around). Of course, these show the same demo videos for large portions of the day 6 or 7 days a week, but the videos are designed to not have any static elements, with even text mostly being in movement or on screen for just a couple of seconds at a time, and a lot of color variation. At the store I used to work at, every single Samsung AMOLED phone and tablet had very visible burn-in within a year. A PC display would likely get it even sooner, given the higher amount of static display elements, but this would of course be offset by less use per day. I still wouldn't trust it to last more than a few years.darkswordsman17 - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
There's no reason it should cost anywhere close to that. Heck, there's no reason it shouldn't be able to cost less than this.There's no reason why TV manufacturers couldn't offer something that is 90% of what this is (MVA panel, doing 120Hz, VRR especially since HDMI 2.1 will bring it as part of the spec, HDR) for 1/3 the price. If I'm AMD I'd be trying to help companies do just that and undercut this thing massively. Try to get brands to offer whole group of models (get them to offer 32-65" models; the 32" ones would be especially popular with PC gamers I think) with these features/capabilities. Get Microsoft and Sony to work deals to bundle or possibly integrate their consoles with them.
Products like these shouldn't cost any more than normal ones either since they could ditch the smart functions knowing that people are buying them to let their PC/video card and even console handle those. This way, it gets out of the way, they could even ditch their processing controls since again the intended market is going to use other devices for that anyway. Maybe have some simple scaling features (so for instance, it could take 1080/720 signals up to native resolution since they'd scale easily to native resolution and with 120Hz refresh you could scale 24/30/60 content.
darkswordsman17 - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
Oh, and this would also be a great market for Samsung to target with their microLED displays (the ones where they're made of multiple individual panels, so for 65" 4K, you'd have 4 ~32" 1080p panels, so if you have several friends over you could split it and each person gets their own display). I know MicroLED is expensive right now, but I'd think they could probably be more competitive with these BFG Displays, and they should easily trounce them in performance and even features (these don't even have HDMI 2.1?!? Which they try and make up for it with the DisplayPort, but that's only useful for PC; plus while the Shield is solid, it could use an update).An updated model, that gets the price much more reasonable, includes HDMI 2.1, and maybe if they can talk Nintendo into using a new Tegra chip that pairs current ARM CPUs and current Nvidia GPU on 7nm, an integrated Switch Dock with also wireless display capability so that the Switch could work like the Wii U tablet pad. This updated Switch when docked would charge but would also take over the duties that the Shield is doing on these first versions. They could also include motion tracking and IR cameras so you could do those things. Maybe offer an updated Wii Sports like suite.
haukionkannel - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
This is Nvidia product... what do you Expect?Dug - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Yes, there is a reason. It's called development. You can't just throw parts off the shelf together and hope everything works. Otherwise you would be buying panels yourself. Why do you think it's taken so long to get a 4k screen above 60hz in the first place? How are you going to incorporate fald, connections, gsync, remotes, sound, correct color for pc and tv, write the firmware, design the frame, power supply, etc. Now pay all the people it took to develop, test, qa, manage project, and then get final approval. Then there's an entire manufacturing concept you haven't considered because they aren't going to sell millions of these, so you need to find someone that will do a short supply run. Then, pay for taxes, pictures, packaging, logistics, keeping the lights on, water, insurance, heat & ac, transportation, marketing. And have money left over so you can develop more things.And then add on this is a niche product that 99.8% of the population doesn't care about it.
Dug - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Forgot to mention you need to add a warranty and support too, and expect returns that will burn into your 1000 piece run.BenSkywalker - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
The C8 lists at $2700 for this size, the C9 is shipping with HDMI 2.1 but we don't have a price yet so we'll say that'll add another $100(probably will be less if history is an example), then add another $200 on for built in Shield hardware with a controller in the box, then we'll throw nVidia $500 for g sync tax and we end up at $3500. You could pair that with a 2080Ti and still be under what this is going for.guidryp - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
LG, just add Display Port and to OLEDs and you already have a better product.BenSkywalker - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
LG is shipping the 9 series OLED with HDMI 2.1- up to 10k 120Hz. Maybe I missed something, but I thought display port capped out at 8k 60Hz? Yes, I realize there is certain functionality dp has that HDMI doesn't, and vice versa, but *for* TVs HDMI 2.1 is just plain better. I guess having like a legacy hookup for obsolete hardware maybe?godrilla - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
That soundbar could have gone to saving to the consumer! Their marketing team could not even put a pc together to run this thing. Isent HP a Computer company 1st and a accessory company 2nd. When i hear HP i never would think enthusiast anything.guachi - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
$5,000?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
coburn_c - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
This would have been a good buy at $1000. As it is Samsung TV's have better specs, freesync, and 1440p/120 input for about $1000.imaheadcase - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Pixel Density 68 ppiThat is why TV are not "gaming" displays people.
A5 - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
If you're an idiot and sitting 5 feet from a 65" screen, then sure. This is (I assume) designed for high-end gaming HTPCs.yefi - Monday, March 18, 2019 - link
The pixel density makes these completely useless for desktop. We need to see these specs packaged into a 40" monitor with a saner ppi.Beaver M. - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Love Gsync, because its making sure there are far tighter specs on monitors. Freesync ones are almost always far slower in input lag and response time, not to mention Overdrive. So I will always buy the Gsync version, even if I wouldnt have an Nvidia card.But that cant make the price of this TV... monitor... whatever.
Its a freaking VA panel! The cheapest you can get! And it most likely has one or more fans built in, which most likely arent silent ones either, like on other 4K Gsync monitors. 5k for that is a laugh, as if VW would sell low end Golf as a Bugatti...
Beaver M. - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Oh and AMVA is an AUO technology. That means this panel is AUO... LOL!Have fun with all the dead pixels, BLB and dust particles inside the panel.
Theres a reason AUO panels are dirt cheap. Even the ones they sell for $2k on monitors are only worth $200.
A5 - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
VA gets you better blacks and contrast than IPS. Every serious LED TV panel is VA - IPS is a negative in the home theater space.The AUO part does suck, though.
BenSkywalker - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
As long as viewing angles aren't a big deal. VA loses to IPS there.Beaver M. - Saturday, March 16, 2019 - link
Its still much cheaper to produce than IPS. That should reflect on the price, but the price is as if they invented a new technology that has no weaknesses.PeachNCream - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Good going HP! Rebrand that TV and mark the price up 200%. I'm sure someone will buy one.Dick tracey - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Does this do 1440p over display port? I can't seem to get a straight answer or someone who has one in their hands to test it. Saved my money it's either this or Samsung q9fn 65" with FREESYNC.zodiacfml - Friday, March 15, 2019 - link
Meh. They really have to release these things at 65" to justify the exorbitant price. We have a 65 inch here in the house and its too big except the living room or kitchen.I have been using 43" inch TV as a monitor for one year and just feels the right step up from a desktop monitor.
Surfacround - Sunday, March 17, 2019 - link
quote “ We have a 65 inch here in the house and its too big except the living room or kitchen...”that’s what she said... LOL
D. Lister - Saturday, March 16, 2019 - link
HDR with 8-bit color is not proper HDR though. For $5,000 this display should have been at least 10-bit color.yefi - Monday, March 18, 2019 - link
Nvidia's G-Sync team: "let's just go from 32" 4K to 65" 4K with nothing in-between."Like seriously?