Depending on the ROP situation it really doesn't sound that bad. Kinda wish they'd offer it here in the US. Though the 570 is very competitively priced as it is
As long as it's got an XT moniker, then I don't mind and I'm sure few people will. They could have called it the 570 and left consumers in the dark about which one is the slower one (remember the nvidia DDR4 GT 1030?).
You don't have to go that far to find example of confusing name. RX560 was originaly launched as 1024SP part and AMD sneaked 896SP version later (look at specification comparison table...)
AMD has since confirmed that it is in fact 32 ROPs. So it's a 570 with 75% the shader throughput, 85% the ROP throughput, and 94% of the memory bandwidth.
Could also be that the chips used in these are lower quality - can't clock as high as regular RX 570s without using inordinate amounts of power. Add the small number of chips with less than 32 functional CUs in the pile. You get a number of GPUs that can run 28 CUs (instead of 32), at lowered clocks, at the same power consumption as an RX 570.
A cut down model launched late in the product cycle generally is the chipmaker using up their dud dies ahead of their next product launch (Navi). Launching in only one region means they don't have a lot of dies that fit in the bucket and can't support a global launch.
It also means that like the weird 1060's (massively cutdown GP104 instead of GP106, and 5GB ram instead of 6) Nvidia released late last year to clear out their dud Pascal dies, it's unlikely to cross any review desks unless someone goes and orders one on the grey market.
Yup, we will never actually hear about these cards other then random articles such as these. Kinda makes you wonder why even bother writing these articles. Its a China specific card, that no one will ever see anywhere else in the world. It might as well not exist.
Why are they so reluctant to use the last digit for anything? What's wrong with calling it RX 565? Likewise, the RX 580 2048SP could've just been the RX 575.
It is a normal thing to do. However, seen the timings, they should have quite a lot of those not completely working Polaris 10 chips, as we are speaking about a period of 6 months before Navi si going to be seen in a picture.
What is funny is the TDP: they are probably selling as a cut version also the chips that work beyond the already hyper high consumption limits AMD has used for the good Polaris 10 bins. It's definitely a "all in" process.
Curious to know how well the Chinese market is now. It had a complete stop few months ago.
I can't recall the testing company that bins AMD wafers, but the RX 560 XT massages GCN in yet another fashion (not that there is anything wrong with that). It would be interesting to see what 28 CUs/1792 SPs, 32 ROPs and 112 TMUs across the 256-bit bus brings to the table.
Tough to see this "priced somewhere north of 1000 CNY" -- 800-900, maybe? The Radeon RX 570 4/8GB is $130-$150US after rebate, plus a 2 game freebie (The Division 2, Resident Evil 2 and Devil May Cry 5).
so in effect this could have been the TRUE successor to the venerable 7870 from many years prior, IMO the "sweet spot" for AMD Radeon for "gamers" 256bit bus at lest 4gb VRAM,.
Almost make me wonder where the 1280 shader models have went, 1024 paired with 128 no matter how you slice it are not "gamer grade" at least not higher spec game, then going above this which is the 15xx=1792 comes at the cost of excessive power use IMHO
take advantage of die shrinks or whatever, I want a true Radeon 1280 shader 256bus 4gb+ VRAM should be able to manage nice clocks etc and hold below 120w power consumption as well....This one looks like it would be very close to such, however locked to china....FFS AMD
"Meanwhile, although the card is taking a hit on the CU count, AMD has confirmed that while the card is retaining Polaris 10’s full 256-bit memory bus. " Grammar...
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Ej24 - Tuesday, March 12, 2019 - link
Depending on the ROP situation it really doesn't sound that bad. Kinda wish they'd offer it here in the US. Though the 570 is very competitively priced as it isstanleyipkiss - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
As long as it's got an XT moniker, then I don't mind and I'm sure few people will. They could have called it the 570 and left consumers in the dark about which one is the slower one (remember the nvidia DDR4 GT 1030?).qap - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
You don't have to go that far to find example of confusing name. RX560 was originaly launched as 1024SP part and AMD sneaked 896SP version later (look at specification comparison table...)Ryan Smith - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
AMD has since confirmed that it is in fact 32 ROPs. So it's a 570 with 75% the shader throughput, 85% the ROP throughput, and 94% of the memory bandwidth.BigMamaInHouse - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Maybe it's just RX 570 with disabled CU in bios so they can get rid of the stock without lowering RX 570 price?Hul8 - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Could also be that the chips used in these are lower quality - can't clock as high as regular RX 570s without using inordinate amounts of power. Add the small number of chips with less than 32 functional CUs in the pile. You get a number of GPUs that can run 28 CUs (instead of 32), at lowered clocks, at the same power consumption as an RX 570.DanNeely - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
A cut down model launched late in the product cycle generally is the chipmaker using up their dud dies ahead of their next product launch (Navi). Launching in only one region means they don't have a lot of dies that fit in the bucket and can't support a global launch.It also means that like the weird 1060's (massively cutdown GP104 instead of GP106, and 5GB ram instead of 6) Nvidia released late last year to clear out their dud Pascal dies, it's unlikely to cross any review desks unless someone goes and orders one on the grey market.
Cellar Door - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Yup, we will never actually hear about these cards other then random articles such as these. Kinda makes you wonder why even bother writing these articles. Its a China specific card, that no one will ever see anywhere else in the world. It might as well not exist.mode_13h - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Why are they so reluctant to use the last digit for anything? What's wrong with calling it RX 565? Likewise, the RX 580 2048SP could've just been the RX 575.Retycint - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Exactly. It's pretty strange, considering that they had the R9 285 which was between the 290 and 280xHaawser - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
AMD depleting Polaris stock to clear the way for Navi.hanselltc - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
LOL they are trying so hard to clear Polaris stockCiccioB - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
It is a normal thing to do.However, seen the timings, they should have quite a lot of those not completely working Polaris 10 chips, as we are speaking about a period of 6 months before Navi si going to be seen in a picture.
eva02langley - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Could have been worst, could have been RTX... >:PCiccioB - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
What is funny is the TDP: they are probably selling as a cut version also the chips that work beyond the already hyper high consumption limits AMD has used for the good Polaris 10 bins.It's definitely a "all in" process.
Curious to know how well the Chinese market is now. It had a complete stop few months ago.
sam tim wong - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Thank you, chinese gpu cartel 👌👌👌Colin1497 - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Someone I forgot about or missed the 580 that's not a 580.Colin1497 - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
Might be made clearer if the "China Only" parts were better highlighted.Smell This - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
I suspect 'technically' this is Polaris 20.I can't recall the testing company that bins AMD wafers, but the RX 560 XT massages GCN in yet another fashion (not that there is anything wrong with that). It would be interesting to see what 28 CUs/1792 SPs, 32 ROPs and 112 TMUs across the 256-bit bus brings to the table.
Tough to see this "priced somewhere north of 1000 CNY" -- 800-900, maybe?
The Radeon RX 570 4/8GB is $130-$150US after rebate, plus a 2 game freebie (The Division 2, Resident Evil 2 and Devil May Cry 5).
Dragonstongue - Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - link
so in effect this could have been the TRUE successor to the venerable 7870 from many years prior, IMO the "sweet spot" for AMD Radeon for "gamers" 256bit bus at lest 4gb VRAM,.Almost make me wonder where the 1280 shader models have went, 1024 paired with 128 no matter how you slice it are not "gamer grade" at least not higher spec game, then going above this which is the 15xx=1792 comes at the cost of excessive power use IMHO
take advantage of die shrinks or whatever, I want a true Radeon 1280 shader 256bus 4gb+ VRAM should be able to manage nice clocks etc and hold below 120w power consumption as well....This one looks like it would be very close to such, however locked to china....FFS AMD
RSAUser - Thursday, March 14, 2019 - link
"Meanwhile, although the card is taking a hit on the CU count, AMD has confirmed that while the card is retaining Polaris 10’s full 256-bit memory bus. "Grammar...
zopek - Saturday, March 16, 2019 - link
RX 560 XT is rebrand of RX 470D, same clock, same specs, same price