it is good to see hole punch getting love. i really do like the s10 so far. you barely even notice the hole when you are using it. something about it i like a lot.
also tcl has been around a while. good to see them try and get in the phone business.
The hole punch is just as bad as the notch. It's a very stupid trend to reduce the impacts of a problem that didn't exist, but creating a whole new much more massive problem.
Glad you can barely see it, I for one staying away from gimmicks like this.
These all Chinese OEMs are like copying one another. There is simply no identity among these, from Huawei, Honor, Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, OnePlus all damn have same design formula. The camera setup for example the vertical positioning with the extra third one standing outside like this.
I don't get it how people are so fine with buying a rehashed trash like these. And that display mutilation with these stupid trends like Notches and Holes wth. So far not even one OEM was able to remove the idiotic chin apart from Sony, their new phones don't have chins but a top bezel without any of these stupid trends, even that ugly roudned corner drama.
Not everybody buys their phone to flaunt. They are just a necessity for most. And thus it doesn't matter if Xiaomi copies Apple when you get relatively good specs at USD 250.
He has a point about the lack of variety. It would be nice to have a choice beyond which major feature is missing. The only variations are on Kickstarter/Indiegogo which are far from reliable as a marketplace.
Yup, it's a utility device that covers communications, navigation, entertainment, and dabbles in productivity while on the go. The increase in time between upgrades is partly due to slowing hardware advances, but also I think its fair to say that the novelty of the smartphone has faded and fewer people still view them as a fashion statement or something to buy at the high end to lord over lesser people with because, in the end, hardly anyone cares. Phones are following computers where it was once so that we bragged to each other about our Pentium MMX processors or upgrading to 64MB of EDO RAM but now no longer do it because the people subjected to our bragging find us dullards for doing so. Smartphones briefly enjoyed a similar interest, but such people are now being met with apathetic shrugs and so, are even those that would engage in such posturing and preening are being conditioned to expect that others are less receptive. Between that and the handset costs at the high end increasing, I'm not really sure this market segment is going to land the numbers TCL may anticipate from it. I also agree that few, if any people, aside from a smallish group of tech enthusiasts are really very concerned with whether or not features are being rehashed from one manufacturer to the next.
Smartphones are commodity products at this point, and for the vast majority of people "good enough" is just that - good enough. Not everyone wants or needs to spend >$1k on a phone to be on the bleeding edge. Besides, if "rehashed trash" is your thing, what are your thoughts on Apple's and Samsung's designs? It's not like those are mind-blowingly original, after all.
As for notches and holes, if maximizing screen-to-body ratio is a goal (which it should be, as the screen is arguably the most important part of a smartphone), these are smart solutions, particularly hole-punch cameras, allowing for the camera (a small, round-ish thing) to fit alongside the notification icons (also small, round-ish things), while growing the screen 5-ish mm in one direction, effectively increasing usable screen space. No reason to hate on that. Giant notches are another thing, but with some tech (iris/face scanners) it's a necessity, and can still expand usable screen area.
Homefully, their high-end phones will receive better support in terms of feature- and security updates than their low-end ones. My Alcatel Pop 2 4.5 didn't receive a singel update - not even security related ones.
The increase in time between upgrades is partly due to slowing hardware advances, but also I think its fair to say that the novelty of the smartphone has faded and fewer people still view them as a fashion statement or something to buy at the high end to lord over lesser people with because, in the end, hardly anyone cares. Phones are following computers where it was once so that we bragged to each other about our Pentium MMX processors or upgrading to 64MB of EDO RAM but now no longer do it because the people subjected to our bragging find us dullards for doing so. Smartphones briefly enjoyed a similar interest, but such people are now being met with apathetic shrugs and so, are even those that would engage in such posturing and preening are being conditioned to expect that others are less receptive. https://www.diebestetest.de/
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austinsguitar - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
it is good to see hole punch getting love. i really do like the s10 so far. you barely even notice the hole when you are using it. something about it i like a lot.also tcl has been around a while. good to see them try and get in the phone business.
niva - Monday, March 11, 2019 - link
The hole punch is just as bad as the notch. It's a very stupid trend to reduce the impacts of a problem that didn't exist, but creating a whole new much more massive problem.Glad you can barely see it, I for one staying away from gimmicks like this.
Quantumz0d - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
These all Chinese OEMs are like copying one another. There is simply no identity among these, from Huawei, Honor, Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, OnePlus all damn have same design formula. The camera setup for example the vertical positioning with the extra third one standing outside like this.I don't get it how people are so fine with buying a rehashed trash like these. And that display mutilation with these stupid trends like Notches and Holes wth. So far not even one OEM was able to remove the idiotic chin apart from Sony, their new phones don't have chins but a top bezel without any of these stupid trends, even that ugly roudned corner drama.
I don't know when we will see the light.
patel21 - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
Not everybody buys their phone to flaunt. They are just a necessity for most. And thus it doesn't matter if Xiaomi copies Apple when you get relatively good specs at USD 250.BedfordTim - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
He has a point about the lack of variety. It would be nice to have a choice beyond which major feature is missing. The only variations are on Kickstarter/Indiegogo which are far from reliable as a marketplace.PeachNCream - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
Yup, it's a utility device that covers communications, navigation, entertainment, and dabbles in productivity while on the go. The increase in time between upgrades is partly due to slowing hardware advances, but also I think its fair to say that the novelty of the smartphone has faded and fewer people still view them as a fashion statement or something to buy at the high end to lord over lesser people with because, in the end, hardly anyone cares. Phones are following computers where it was once so that we bragged to each other about our Pentium MMX processors or upgrading to 64MB of EDO RAM but now no longer do it because the people subjected to our bragging find us dullards for doing so. Smartphones briefly enjoyed a similar interest, but such people are now being met with apathetic shrugs and so, are even those that would engage in such posturing and preening are being conditioned to expect that others are less receptive. Between that and the handset costs at the high end increasing, I'm not really sure this market segment is going to land the numbers TCL may anticipate from it. I also agree that few, if any people, aside from a smallish group of tech enthusiasts are really very concerned with whether or not features are being rehashed from one manufacturer to the next.piroroadkill - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
Yeah.Valantar - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
Smartphones are commodity products at this point, and for the vast majority of people "good enough" is just that - good enough. Not everyone wants or needs to spend >$1k on a phone to be on the bleeding edge. Besides, if "rehashed trash" is your thing, what are your thoughts on Apple's and Samsung's designs? It's not like those are mind-blowingly original, after all.As for notches and holes, if maximizing screen-to-body ratio is a goal (which it should be, as the screen is arguably the most important part of a smartphone), these are smart solutions, particularly hole-punch cameras, allowing for the camera (a small, round-ish thing) to fit alongside the notification icons (also small, round-ish things), while growing the screen 5-ish mm in one direction, effectively increasing usable screen space. No reason to hate on that. Giant notches are another thing, but with some tech (iris/face scanners) it's a necessity, and can still expand usable screen area.
ceisserer - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
Homefully, their high-end phones will receive better support in terms of feature- and security updates than their low-end ones. My Alcatel Pop 2 4.5 didn't receive a singel update - not even security related ones.Alina57 - Tuesday, May 21, 2019 - link
The increase in time between upgrades is partly due to slowing hardware advances, but also I think its fair to say that the novelty of the smartphone has faded and fewer people still view them as a fashion statement or something to buy at the high end to lord over lesser people with because, in the end, hardly anyone cares. Phones are following computers where it was once so that we bragged to each other about our Pentium MMX processors or upgrading to 64MB of EDO RAM but now no longer do it because the people subjected to our bragging find us dullards for doing so. Smartphones briefly enjoyed a similar interest, but such people are now being met with apathetic shrugs and so, are even those that would engage in such posturing and preening are being conditioned to expect that others are less receptive. https://www.diebestetest.de/sarvendravasha - Thursday, May 9, 2019 - link
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