That's the thing isn't it? You never know with power bank manufacturers if it's the battery capacity at 3.7V or the output capacity at 5.0V that is actually in the specification when they use mAh. They should instead use the actual Wh capacity so consumers would have a realistic chance of knowing what they get.
If it's the output capacity, meaning 90Wh then that would put the actual battery capacity at somewhere between 96Wh and the legal limit of 100Wh as there will naturally be conversion loses going from the battery voltage to the output voltage which has to be compensated by the actual battery capacity being 6-10% higher than the output capacity.
I have not come across a power bank manufacturer provides only one number and that number is not the 3.7V rated battery capacity. Sometimes they add a 5V output capacity, but that is pretty rare. If you see only one number, assume 3.7" and you are okay almost always. This also isn't a power bank.
I like how despite being close to an inch thick, the phone still somehow apparently needs to have a camera bump and is apparently still "too thin" to have a headphone jack.
its a popup camera, and the purpose is to maximize screen size without sacrificing a selfie camera. It will stow away cleanly when not in use, so I don't think that's such a big deal.
The lack of a headphone jack is most likely a cost-savings move more than anything.
I think Joey was referring to the rear camera, which protrudes from the back of the chassis (check the 3rd photo) in a patently ridiculous way given how much space is available. I don't think it's anything except lazy design: rather than specifically designing a fat phone with a flush camera, 3.5mm jack and full-sized fingerprint reader on the side next to decent size buttons, they've just taken a thin phone and made it fatter.
""the best option has often been to pair a thin smartphone with a battery case in order to make up for the difference" No, the best option would be a return to replaceable batteries in cell phones.
I liked the moto-z battery mods. You get a thin phone. By what ever battery size you want to add to the back, and it can be swapped out easily without turning off your phone. Pretty much to best option and most configurable.
Yup, but your voice of reason won't get heard by the companies that are trying to spin a cost cutting and competitive move that forces you to own an effectively disposable device as a benefit to you the consumer because its clearly better that way.
What I don't get is why something that's so gigantic doesn't appear to have a removable battery (and headphone jack, and slightly recessed camera lens). It just screams lazy engineering work with the intent of preying on the people out there that simply want their phones to run a sufficient amount of time between recharge cycles. Good idea, outright bad execution.
If nothing else, it'll be great for a light workout. For even better muscle use, make the case from thick stainless steel (leave places for the antenna). But, seriously, the main use scenario of such an extreme battery capacity phone is as a ruggedized phone, and to this isn't one. Not water proof, not shock proof, no 3.5 mm headset connector - waste of that big battery.
Sorry to say my dear manufacturers but, in my honest opinion, you can stick all those super-wide or super elongated :-/ screens up there where the sun doesn't shines. 16:9 tops for me, I like to have useable screen height when in landscape.
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Inteli - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
If this is a 3.7V battery, that puts it at about 67 Wh. That's only 2/3 the US limit for transport on airplanes! Unacceptable!If I could manage to fit this thing in my pocket, it'd be fairly enticing. I don't see a headphone jack on it, though.
A5 - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
You're correct, it doesn't have a headphone jack.Lord of the Bored - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
What the friggin' hell?!?! Seriously, they coulda put a 1/4" jack on it.SaturnusDK - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
That's the thing isn't it? You never know with power bank manufacturers if it's the battery capacity at 3.7V or the output capacity at 5.0V that is actually in the specification when they use mAh. They should instead use the actual Wh capacity so consumers would have a realistic chance of knowing what they get.If it's the output capacity, meaning 90Wh then that would put the actual battery capacity at somewhere between 96Wh and the legal limit of 100Wh as there will naturally be conversion loses going from the battery voltage to the output voltage which has to be compensated by the actual battery capacity being 6-10% higher than the output capacity.
Inteli - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
Given that this is the phone's actual battery and not a battery bank, I'd guess it's measured at 3.7V rather than 5 V.Death666Angel - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
I have not come across a power bank manufacturer provides only one number and that number is not the 3.7V rated battery capacity. Sometimes they add a 5V output capacity, but that is pretty rare. If you see only one number, assume 3.7" and you are okay almost always.This also isn't a power bank.
JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
I like how despite being close to an inch thick, the phone still somehow apparently needs to have a camera bump and is apparently still "too thin" to have a headphone jack.Thanks Applel for being trendsetters.
bunnyfubbles - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
its a popup camera, and the purpose is to maximize screen size without sacrificing a selfie camera. It will stow away cleanly when not in use, so I don't think that's such a big deal.The lack of a headphone jack is most likely a cost-savings move more than anything.
sonofsanta - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
I think Joey was referring to the rear camera, which protrudes from the back of the chassis (check the 3rd photo) in a patently ridiculous way given how much space is available. I don't think it's anything except lazy design: rather than specifically designing a fat phone with a flush camera, 3.5mm jack and full-sized fingerprint reader on the side next to decent size buttons, they've just taken a thin phone and made it fatter.stargazera5 - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
""the best option has often been to pair a thin smartphone with a battery case in order to make up for the difference"No, the best option would be a return to replaceable batteries in cell phones.
CU - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
I liked the moto-z battery mods. You get a thin phone. By what ever battery size you want to add to the back, and it can be swapped out easily without turning off your phone. Pretty much to best option and most configurable.boeush - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
Give Apple a few more years; perhaps they'll eventually 'invent' it...PeachNCream - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
Yup, but your voice of reason won't get heard by the companies that are trying to spin a cost cutting and competitive move that forces you to own an effectively disposable device as a benefit to you the consumer because its clearly better that way.What I don't get is why something that's so gigantic doesn't appear to have a removable battery (and headphone jack, and slightly recessed camera lens). It just screams lazy engineering work with the intent of preying on the people out there that simply want their phones to run a sufficient amount of time between recharge cycles. Good idea, outright bad execution.
Lord of the Bored - Tuesday, March 5, 2019 - link
At last, a smartphone with somewhere to put your fingers!piroroadkill - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
And the battery's not replaceable, it's not waterproof, and there's no headphone jack. Seriously. No 3.5mm jack on a phone this thick.beginner99 - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
I don't see the point of this. You can simply get a normal phone with a pack and only carry the pack when you need it.eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
If nothing else, it'll be great for a light workout. For even better muscle use, make the case from thick stainless steel (leave places for the antenna). But, seriously, the main use scenario of such an extreme battery capacity phone is as a ruggedized phone, and to this isn't one. Not water proof, not shock proof, no 3.5 mm headset connector - waste of that big battery.Barkuti - Monday, March 11, 2019 - link
Sorry to say my dear manufacturers but, in my honest opinion, you can stick all those super-wide or super elongated :-/ screens up there where the sun doesn't shines. 16:9 tops for me, I like to have useable screen height when in landscape.hcsupermart - Monday, April 15, 2019 - link
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