Yeah, one devices, two SoCs is the only way to get a proper comparison, especially as Exynos has had such problems the last couple of years and we need to see if this is still true.
I know it's hard to give socks all the love, but the shoes will have to wait.
I agree, the S10(+) with two different SOCs means we find out how they compare. That also covers the cameras. Let's be honest dozens of reviews cover all kinds of aspects of the pgones but none dive deep in the relative SOC performance so WE NEED IT. ;-)
How about 3? I think the most important part is to know the differences from the SoC's, so it could be two s10, or two s10+, but I also think that the s10e is different enough to warrant a review (the FP sensor, screen resolution, Flat screen, etc.)
Well, NHF but i really see no point of testing the s10e only for it's smaller resolution and a flat screen... It would probbably score a bit higher in comparison with s10/s10+ just because of the lower resolution... The FP scaner is a different story. I would bet that it is again a bit faster when compared to it's bigger brothers. If we can only get 2 devices, i think that the most logical choice is one device and two SoC's, that would show the real difference between Exy and SD. Everything else is identical, so...
If anything should affect the performance in a significant way, I think it'd be RGB. Sadly, Samsung completely missed the opportunity to get any form of recommendation cred without that RGB lighting...
As apple has just learned, most people aren't willing to pay over $1k for a phone. If apple cant do it then how can Samsung? I believe the S10e will be by far the most popular model, and thus absolutely needs a review. At the same time I do think the two SOC variants need to be tested and agree that testing them both in the same device is the only way to get an accurate comparison. If it had to be 2, I think it should be the S10e. On the other hand, there are people who like to flaunt their wealth and/or are willing to pay anything for the "best"...so I think the S10+ will be the second most pick. I think the regular S10 is in a weird no mans land, it's much more expensive than the S10e (especially for the mid tier option) and significantly worse the the S10+ which is only $100 more. On 24 month payments for second tier that's 35.38 vs 47.88 or 52.04. The base models are closer, at 31.21 and 37.46 or 41.63 but even then I think anyone who will rationalize an extra $6/month wont blink at "just $3 more for the best". Therefore, if it were at all possible to test 3 devices I think it should be a pair of S10e (cheapest way to test both SOC) and an S10+ for the high end buyer who might want to know what the higher price is getting them.
One device, two SoC's. Two different internal memory sizes would be nice, as you could check how it affects memory performance. I'm more interested in Exynos vs Snapdragon comparison than in comparing displays.
1. One device, two different SoCs. Which device? Probably the S10.
In my opinion Snapdragon 855 vs Exynos 9820 in same size comparison _by Anandtech_ is infinitely more interesting than the other options. The second option doesn't sound exciting. It doesn't sound special. There will be n+1 "S10 vs S10+" reviews out there. One could say the third option would cover more ground but that's two different sizes and a proper SoC comparison would call for the same size device, otherwise it kind of defeats the purpose of the comparison when you cannot directly compare them. And the different sizes are so similar that this hands on already covers a lot.
This. I don't care for physical/aesthetic features in the reviews, they are too subjective and should always be evaluated personally. But Snapdragon vs Exynos results will define which one I will buy, and such comparison is much more difficult to find anywhere else.
Exynos is available in countries not North American, while Snapdragon is only available to North American customers. It's not a "oh I like this processor more" type of deal, it's "oh, I've got no choice because this processor is only available in my region"
Unless they changed, that's how it was for Galaxy S7, S8, S9, Note 8, Note 9
Yeah, but that's what Ebay is for. That is, if the difference does indeed justify getting a phone from overseas. Which brings us back to the point of needing a proper SD vs EX review.
Yep one device two socs! The Main difference between different devices is the picture quality and for that we will see Many reviews elsewhere, but comparison socs you don`t see too often.
One device, 2 SOCs, S10/+ will be quite similar save from battery life (+ slightly +) and e's screen will make it last longer to. SD and Exynos however... make it apples to apples please.
The two that I will be choosing between S10 and S10e on Snapdragon (I live in the US) How much do you give up? Does 2gb of ram matter? Will a smaller screen and lower resolution mean the S10e will have a longer battery life even with the smaller battery? How much impact does the lower screen resolution make?
I'll echo the sentiments here. Everyone on earth is already doing S10 vs S10+. Who cares about that?
Exynos vs Snapdragon in otherwise IDENTICAL devices is far more interesting. s10e, IMO, since it's the smallest (lowest battery, size), so the constraints will really expose the flaws of either SoC.
I would love to see the Qualcomm 855 based review of S10e and S10+. As one with the lowest battery and the highest we can interpolate and get rough idea for S10 itself.
Can everyone ping Samsung US on twitter to provide review phones to Anandtech. I dont think any other site provides the depth that Anandtech provides. I think despite the prices being bit too high, this has been the most significant release since S7. I hope the cameras especially are a match to Pixel. Other important question is battery. I wish both 10e and 10 had bigger batteries considering the screen size.
How so the smaller device will expose flaws of energy, just curious. But Andrei, being my favourite in anandtech with his deep dives for SOCs...at least one of any device with two different SoCs is the one to go for!
Definitely one device with two different SoC's. So we can compare them with each other and with the last gen Exy/SD... That would be a interesting read, as always :)
Who cares about different SOC's - based on where you live, you will get only one or the other. Pick the SOC that serves your readership's primary market and focus on that.
Would love to see an article comparing Exynos and Snapdragon model of S10 as it's the most viable option to buy.... If the battery life is good enough.
IAN CUTRESS My pick is option 3 two devices different socs bcoz most people will skip s10e for its compromises for a 10th anniversary flagship. the obvious way is s10 with exynos 9820 soc & s10+ with qualcomm 855 soc this way you will cover both premium devices features, and how those 2 SOCs performance & efficiency.
Well, being in the US, Exynos doesn't matter since I can't buy that one. Likewise if you are in an area where its the Exynos for sale, you wouldn't much care about snapdragon, would you? That said, one device, two SoCs covers both groups. If it could be three I'd add the E.
"If the front of the phone has two pinhole cameras rather than one, then it is the S10+. If it has only two cameras on the rear rather than three, it is the S10e. If it has three rear cameras but a single pinhole"
Samsung was smart enough to get it's primary seller at less than $1k, i.e. the S10e will be the most popular, as we can all see from Apple's fiasco. I don't see any career deal at BOGO, which usually drives the sales of the most expensive models, I see just buy-in discounts at the moment - which is a driver of the least expensive models, retail statistically... So, test the s10e Qualcomm, and whichever other models by your choice - those don't matter anyway. Test the s10e against iPhone 8 and XR, which are the bulk of sales and consumer audience.
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[email protected] - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, two different SoCsbaka_toroi - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Two devices, two SoCs.charleski - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Yeah, one devices, two SoCs is the only way to get a proper comparison, especially as Exynos has had such problems the last couple of years and we need to see if this is still true.I know it's hard to give socks all the love, but the shoes will have to wait.
N Zaljov - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
I second that. I see no point in reviewing two different devices with the same SoC, let alone two different devices with two different SoCs.Cibafsa - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Yup. 1 device. (S10 or +) 2 SOCsjospoortvliet - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
I agree, the S10(+) with two different SOCs means we find out how they compare. That also covers the cameras. Let's be honest dozens of reviews cover all kinds of aspects of the pgones but none dive deep in the relative SOC performance so WE NEED IT. ;-)phoenix_rizzen - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
S10e, both SoCsS10+, both SoCs
That way, we can compare how the SoC performance changes with device size and screen resolution.
And we can compare the SoCs in the same phone configuration.
Ian Cutress - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
We can only get two devices. Not four.javier_machuk - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
How about 3? I think the most important part is to know the differences from the SoC's, so it could be two s10, or two s10+, but I also think that the s10e is different enough to warrant a review (the FP sensor, screen resolution, Flat screen, etc.)Ian Cutress - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Something something 'donate to the AnandTech Galaxy Fund Livestream' /s :D1nterceptor_013 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Well, NHF but i really see no point of testing the s10e only for it's smaller resolution and a flat screen... It would probbably score a bit higher in comparison with s10/s10+ just because of the lower resolution... The FP scaner is a different story. I would bet that it is again a bit faster when compared to it's bigger brothers. If we can only get 2 devices, i think that the most logical choice is one device and two SoC's, that would show the real difference between Exy and SD. Everything else is identical, so...jospoortvliet - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Then best the S10+ so we know also how the cameras compare! Even though I plan to buy the s10e...shabby - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Get one in each color, I'd like to know how the color affects performance...N Zaljov - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
If anything should affect the performance in a significant way, I think it'd be RGB. Sadly, Samsung completely missed the opportunity to get any form of recommendation cred without that RGB lighting...shabby - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Rgb bezels... can't wait!peevee - Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - link
Curved screen ARE RGB bezels...TheProv - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
S10e exynosS10+ Snapdragon
Laxaa - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Get the regular S10 with both SoCs. I think a lot of people are interested in the Exynos-version, seeing how underwhelming the last one was.phoenix_rizzen - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
In that case, get the same device, but with different SoCs. That way, everything is the same except the SoC, making for an easier comparison.Probably the S10 in Qualcomm and Samsung variants would be best.
nicolaim - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
I'm surprised there's no budget to buy more. Just sell some when you're done, or borrow them ;)EliteRetard - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
As apple has just learned, most people aren't willing to pay over $1k for a phone. If apple cant do it then how can Samsung? I believe the S10e will be by far the most popular model, and thus absolutely needs a review. At the same time I do think the two SOC variants need to be tested and agree that testing them both in the same device is the only way to get an accurate comparison. If it had to be 2, I think it should be the S10e. On the other hand, there are people who like to flaunt their wealth and/or are willing to pay anything for the "best"...so I think the S10+ will be the second most pick. I think the regular S10 is in a weird no mans land, it's much more expensive than the S10e (especially for the mid tier option) and significantly worse the the S10+ which is only $100 more. On 24 month payments for second tier that's 35.38 vs 47.88 or 52.04. The base models are closer, at 31.21 and 37.46 or 41.63 but even then I think anyone who will rationalize an extra $6/month wont blink at "just $3 more for the best". Therefore, if it were at all possible to test 3 devices I think it should be a pair of S10e (cheapest way to test both SOC) and an S10+ for the high end buyer who might want to know what the higher price is getting them.peevee - Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - link
"just $3 more for the best"It's only the best if it fits in your pocket (purse?) and you are willing to use 2 hands always.
bonuslesbian - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, two different SoCs (e.g. S10 with Snapdragon vs Exynos). I really need that comparison.** A - R ** - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
*1. One device, two different SoCs (e.g. S10 with Snapdragon vs Exynos).*ratbert1 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, two SOC's. S10 or 10+. The rest will be the same except for front camera.PlujeJadem42069 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, two SoC's. Two different internal memory sizes would be nice, as you could check how it affects memory performance. I'm more interested in Exynos vs Snapdragon comparison than in comparing displays.lagittaja - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
1. One device, two different SoCs.Which device? Probably the S10.
In my opinion Snapdragon 855 vs Exynos 9820 in same size comparison _by Anandtech_ is infinitely more interesting than the other options.
The second option doesn't sound exciting. It doesn't sound special. There will be n+1 "S10 vs S10+" reviews out there.
One could say the third option would cover more ground but that's two different sizes and a proper SoC comparison would call for the same size device, otherwise it kind of defeats the purpose of the comparison when you cannot directly compare them. And the different sizes are so similar that this hands on already covers a lot.
Nazgu1 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
This. I don't care for physical/aesthetic features in the reviews, they are too subjective and should always be evaluated personally. But Snapdragon vs Exynos results will define which one I will buy, and such comparison is much more difficult to find anywhere else.1nterceptor_013 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Well said.Xyler94 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Problem is,Exynos is available in countries not North American, while Snapdragon is only available to North American customers. It's not a "oh I like this processor more" type of deal, it's "oh, I've got no choice because this processor is only available in my region"
Unless they changed, that's how it was for Galaxy S7, S8, S9, Note 8, Note 9
Nazgu1 - Sunday, February 24, 2019 - link
Yeah, but that's what Ebay is for. That is, if the difference does indeed justify getting a phone from overseas. Which brings us back to the point of needing a proper SD vs EX review.peevee - Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - link
But wouldn't modems/antennas also be different? Meaning slow (or non-existing, depending on location) LTE in the wrong country?porcupineLTD - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, 2 SoCs.kkilobyte - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, two SoCs. Clearly, how the Exynos will perform against the SnapDragon is the most interesting point here.uibo - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Two devices, two SoCs.Wardrive86 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
1 device, 855 vs 9820. I wonder if the System cache bandwidth on the 845/855 can be measured, if so you guys will be the ones to do it.haukionkannel - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Yep one device two socs!The Main difference between different devices is the picture quality and for that we will see Many reviews elsewhere, but comparison socs you don`t see too often.
Dodozoid - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, 2 SOCs, S10/+ will be quite similar save from battery life (+ slightly +) and e's screen will make it last longer to.SD and Exynos however... make it apples to apples please.
krypto1300 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
But can it play Fortnite, Epic settings @ 60fps? That's what I really want to know. Lol!ajp_anton - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
1. Compare Snapdragon vs Exynos2. Compare S10 vs S10+
3. No comparison possible (or too many comparisons at the same time).
So either 1 or 2.
enki42 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
The two that I will be choosing between S10 and S10e on Snapdragon (I live in the US) How much do you give up? Does 2gb of ram matter? Will a smaller screen and lower resolution mean the S10e will have a longer battery life even with the smaller battery? How much impact does the lower screen resolution make?jeremyshaw - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
I'll echo the sentiments here. Everyone on earth is already doing S10 vs S10+. Who cares about that?Exynos vs Snapdragon in otherwise IDENTICAL devices is far more interesting. s10e, IMO, since it's the smallest (lowest battery, size), so the constraints will really expose the flaws of either SoC.
enki42 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
If they will go out and buy one the cheapest should not be the free oneDizoja86 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
One device, two SoC's. Ideally the midrange S10.surt - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Option 1. Ideally s10+ Snap vs Exydrajitshnew - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
Please post a review with 2 different soc. Because I'm don't like to wait 6months for the other reviewpatel21 - Thursday, February 21, 2019 - link
I would love to see the Qualcomm 855 based review of S10e and S10+. As one with the lowest battery and the highest we can interpolate and get rough idea for S10 itself.trivik12 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Can everyone ping Samsung US on twitter to provide review phones to Anandtech. I dont think any other site provides the depth that Anandtech provides. I think despite the prices being bit too high, this has been the most significant release since S7. I hope the cameras especially are a match to Pixel. Other important question is battery. I wish both 10e and 10 had bigger batteries considering the screen size.Deuge - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
1. One device, 2 SOCs (s10)Deuge - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
People come to Anandtech for SoC reviews primarily. There are plenty of other sites that will talk to features. Few get into the SOCs.blanarahul - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
1. One Device, 2 SoCs.S10e because:
a. It will save you guys some cash.
b. The smaller device will easily expose the flaws in energy efficiency of the two SoCs
S10 can also be bought but to be really honest GSMArena is better than you guys at testing for camera, UI, fingerprint sensor and battery life.
Your speciality is extremely detailed display tests (which not many people want from because others have started doing it too) and SoC tests.
I would say that divide the review into 2 parts. Part 1 should have detailed SoC comparison with battery life differences. Part 2 can cover the rest.
blanarahul - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
You should collaborate with Erica Griffin (YouTuber). She quotes you guys quite often and would love to help you.zeeBomb - Sunday, February 24, 2019 - link
How so the smaller device will expose flaws of energy, just curious. But Andrei, being my favourite in anandtech with his deep dives for SOCs...at least one of any device with two different SoCs is the one to go for!redmok - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
two different SoCs1nterceptor_013 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Definitely one device with two different SoC's. So we can compare them with each other and with the last gen Exy/SD... That would be a interesting read, as always :)Taz4101 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Two devices with snappdragon. Interested in thermal performance. Can always go over the exynos at a later date.Taz4101 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Unfortunately I think the exynos fate is sealed. Fast single core and throttle everything elseHulk - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
One device to different socNICOXIS - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
+1 on S10 with both SoCsAchtung_BG - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Vote + 1. One device, two different SoCs (e.g. S10 with Snapdragon vs Exynos)crimson117 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Who cares about different SOC's - based on where you live, you will get only one or the other. Pick the SOC that serves your readership's primary market and focus on that.mkozakewich - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
2 SoCs, 1 cupzer0hour - Saturday, February 23, 2019 - link
S10 or S10+, 2 different SoCs for sure. Other sites will do everything else except that.ads295 - Saturday, February 23, 2019 - link
One device, two SOCs, preferably S10.The_Quantum_Guy - Saturday, February 23, 2019 - link
Would love to see an article comparing Exynos and Snapdragon model of S10 as it's the most viable option to buy.... If the battery life is good enough.surya darling - Saturday, February 23, 2019 - link
IAN CUTRESS My pick is option 3 two devices different socs bcoz most people will skip s10e for its compromises for a 10th anniversary flagship. the obvious way is s10 with exynos 9820 soc & s10+ with qualcomm 855 soc this way you will cover both premium devices features, and how those 2 SOCs performance & efficiency.zeeBomb - Sunday, February 24, 2019 - link
One device, two different SOCs. But then you may need that review unit for the S10+ 3 camera and 2 front facing camera choice...Hadez - Sunday, February 24, 2019 - link
One device, two different SoCsRatman6161 - Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - link
Well, being in the US, Exynos doesn't matter since I can't buy that one. Likewise if you are in an area where its the Exynos for sale, you wouldn't much care about snapdragon, would you? That said, one device, two SoCs covers both groups. If it could be three I'd add the E.peevee - Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - link
"If the front of the phone has two pinhole cameras rather than one, then it is the S10+. If it has only two cameras on the rear rather than three, it is the S10e. If it has three rear cameras but a single pinhole"Ian, pinhole camera is not what you think it is.
Ananke - Wednesday, February 27, 2019 - link
Samsung was smart enough to get it's primary seller at less than $1k, i.e. the S10e will be the most popular, as we can all see from Apple's fiasco. I don't see any career deal at BOGO, which usually drives the sales of the most expensive models, I see just buy-in discounts at the moment - which is a driver of the least expensive models, retail statistically...So, test the s10e Qualcomm, and whichever other models by your choice - those don't matter anyway. Test the s10e against iPhone 8 and XR, which are the bulk of sales and consumer audience.
nicolaim - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
2. S10 and S10e with Snapdragon.