I would love to see real-world perfofrmance of a system with, say, 4GB of eDRAM on the package and xPoint in DIMM slots (on even on PCIe4 x16 as OS swap disk and storage). I bet both performance and power can be better than a regular system with 16+GB of DDR4 and flash.
I don't know of too many people still running mining hardware at this point given the energy and hardware costs tend to outpace gains so that cache may not be a significant factor in purchase decisions at least in that specific use case. Perhaps if crypto currencies find a floor that will change, but speculative trades and selling hardware to people still not quite caught up with the current state of affairs appears to be the best two courses to attain wealth.
It will be in the new Intel NUC, "Famous Canyon". This device is an inverted dome-shaped ultra-compact PC. All the parts are dumped inside and jumbled together in a distasteful way.
I'm sorry, is no one going to address the obvious...
Where in the world did you get the article photo?!?!? If it's Gimped, then kudos. If it's stock, who even thinks to make that kind of thing as a stock photo? And if it was created just for this article, and what kind of chip was it?
By a rough count (sorry, on phone) it seems to be an s775 chip and those are pretty much available at scrap prices nowadays, so it might well be an actual photo.
I do feel that Intel needs to revise their naming convention. Instead of making it really cryptic as this KFC, they should simplify it for people to understand the differentiation. And seriously Intel, KFC is the model you want to name your processor?
This would be the first instance of a 9th gen chip with something other than GT2 graphics. The ironic thing is that for this part, the suffixes would indicate a disabled GPU but the L4 cache would still be present. This would be a means of increasing IPC prior to Sunny Cove's arrival.
The problem with Intel is that their roadmap has been so unstable. They have not formally committed to Ice Lake on the desktop. There are rumors that 10 nm products have severely been cut back due to delays (mainly just ultra mobile and server now). The emergence of this part could be an indicator that high end mobile and desktop would remain on 14 nm for awhile longer. It has been speculated that Sunny Cove would also emerge on 14 nm while 7 nm is prepped for mobile and desktop. This could be a sign that that speculation is just that.
The move to bring back eDRAM on the desktop would also imply that Intel is taking the threat of AMD and Zen 2 rather seriously.
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Rocket321 - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Yes, I'll have the "extra clarity" pleaseBigMamaInHouse - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
I think it's gonna be without IHS, just for Overclockers.Great for overclokers, cheaper to manufacture.
Opencg - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
I want a KFC processor but I heard they are made at D1XFreckledTrout - Tuesday, February 19, 2019 - link
Let me help. It was a joke on "extra crispy". /smhprophet001 - Tuesday, February 19, 2019 - link
Mmm is that ranch?I love ranch.
shabby - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Does this one use the new oily thermal paste?BigMamaInHouse - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
Nope- I think Carbon based thermal pad (like on Radeon VII) instead of sTim.FreckledTrout - Tuesday, February 19, 2019 - link
LOL someone missed that joke badly.peevee - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
I would love to see real-world perfofrmance of a system with, say, 4GB of eDRAM on the package and xPoint in DIMM slots (on even on PCIe4 x16 as OS swap disk and storage). I bet both performance and power can be better than a regular system with 16+GB of DDR4 and flash.domboy - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Surprised nobody has asked the obvious questions - original, extra crispy, or grilled? Will there be a popcorn variety?Ryan Smith - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
Presumably the C stands for "crispy", but we'll see.bobhumplick - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
the edram did have performance improvements in some cpu only areas. i think compiler speed was one of them0ldman79 - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Monero mining is highly dependent on the CPU cache. It's one area where my FX whips my Xeon.Gotta wonder how small data calculations like that would work with the large L4.
PeachNCream - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
I don't know of too many people still running mining hardware at this point given the energy and hardware costs tend to outpace gains so that cache may not be a significant factor in purchase decisions at least in that specific use case. Perhaps if crypto currencies find a floor that will change, but speculative trades and selling hardware to people still not quite caught up with the current state of affairs appears to be the best two courses to attain wealth.Hul8 - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
The "C" may well stand for "(C)ache", but in this case, rather than "more (C)ache" it may mean "less (C)ache".These could be salvaged dies with some of the L3 cache faulty - therefore with some of it disabled.
drexnx - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
maybe it'll only have an L3 cache with secret blend of 11 megaherbs and spices instead of 16MB?Rocket321 - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Megaherbs is the best thing I will hear today.Yaldabaoth - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
It will be in the new Intel NUC, "Famous Canyon". This device is an inverted dome-shaped ultra-compact PC. All the parts are dumped inside and jumbled together in a distasteful way.GreenReaper - Monday, February 18, 2019 - link
Reminds me how I was a fan of the Win9x-era (Plus! pack?) "Inside Your Computer" wallpaper:https://technology.desktopnexus.com/wallpaper/1246...
I see someone did an updated version (hopefully I don't have any of those valves in mine!):
https://www.deviantart.com/dgtldesigner/art/Inside...
Ashinjuka - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
If it's really eDRAM, I bet it's a big performance boost for the Linux Colonel.Iketh - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
this is why AT needs upvotingStrangerGuy - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
Looks like Intel really doubled down on this one.KlfJoat - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
I'm sorry, is no one going to address the obvious...Where in the world did you get the article photo?!?!? If it's Gimped, then kudos. If it's stock, who even thinks to make that kind of thing as a stock photo? And if it was created just for this article, and what kind of chip was it?
Bolognesus - Friday, February 15, 2019 - link
By a rough count (sorry, on phone) it seems to be an s775 chip and those are pretty much available at scrap prices nowadays, so it might well be an actual photo.Lord of the Bored - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
The missing corner means that if it isn't an edit, someone was screwing around with a busted chip. No one would bust a corner off just for dipping.enteradifferentusername - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
I swear I've seen that exact picture somewhere before... I think it's a real chip though.alysdexia - Wednesday, April 17, 2019 - link
origin:https://9gag.com/gag/aAxpvPg/whats-your-favorite-c...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AyyMD/comments/7urte2/shi...
The size-date trail don't align however.
LoLo2207 - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
K --> overclockableF --> disabled integrated graphics
C --> improved integrated graphics
Clearly, it will be overclockable and will have improved but disabled integrated graphics, duh. /s
GreenReaper - Monday, February 18, 2019 - link
They just improved it by adding a bigger cache. That happens to improve a bunch of other things too.watzupken - Saturday, February 16, 2019 - link
I do feel that Intel needs to revise their naming convention. Instead of making it really cryptic as this KFC, they should simplify it for people to understand the differentiation. And seriously Intel, KFC is the model you want to name your processor?Kevin G - Sunday, February 17, 2019 - link
This would be the first instance of a 9th gen chip with something other than GT2 graphics. The ironic thing is that for this part, the suffixes would indicate a disabled GPU but the L4 cache would still be present. This would be a means of increasing IPC prior to Sunny Cove's arrival.The problem with Intel is that their roadmap has been so unstable. They have not formally committed to Ice Lake on the desktop. There are rumors that 10 nm products have severely been cut back due to delays (mainly just ultra mobile and server now). The emergence of this part could be an indicator that high end mobile and desktop would remain on 14 nm for awhile longer. It has been speculated that Sunny Cove would also emerge on 14 nm while 7 nm is prepped for mobile and desktop. This could be a sign that that speculation is just that.
The move to bring back eDRAM on the desktop would also imply that Intel is taking the threat of AMD and Zen 2 rather seriously.
katsetus - Monday, February 18, 2019 - link
C for China.