I found it useful sometimes for collaborative working or talking someone through some documentation, that type of thing. Swiping and zooming etc is nice and seems intuitive. But as a feature for most day-to-day activities, it's not very useful and the reflective screens on all this touch displays are unusable in any office environment I've worked in.
A 14" pen display is a very nice thing to have. After getting my 13" Dell Latitude 7390 2-in-1 last week (finally! Thanks to Intel's production issues, I've waited more than four months for this), I can't ever imagine going back to a non-pen-enabled laptop for work. So far I've used it for note taking, lectures, presentations and document markup, all of which are a significant portion of my job, and the flexibility this affords in use of the laptop is amazing. Definitely not a gimmick. And if my university didn't have an exclusive supply deal with Dell, the X1 Yoga would have been at the top of my list. An extra inch of screen real estate would definitely not bother me, at least not at the same weight.
You have no idea. Fluid assimilation into your workflow does take constant exploring and customizing programs and their features, but there is absolutely no turning back. My first 2 in 1 was an Asus Transformer, then Lenovo Yoga 3, HP Spectre x360 13 with the first pen and finally Thinkpad X1 Yoga 2nd gen with OLED, each one better than the last.
There are lots of tweaking involved on both hardware and software level. From finding what screen protector and pen works for you to setting up programs like Chrome and PotPlayer to work with touchscreen, customizing macro gestures with GestureSign, learning big, complex programs like OnteNote and Sketch. I prefer convertibles to detachables, but the whole 2 in 1 concept has been a major game change in my life.
Biggest hindrance is of course, Microsoft's lack of native support for 2 in 1s even when Surface line is their best selling PCs. Compared to IOS especially the experience is, well, not enjoyable, but still a lot more productive and faster.
Yes. I use touch all the time when using a 2-in-1 as a digital whiteboard or when doing creative things like drawing and sculpting. The ThinkPad X1 Yoga isn't powerful enough to appeal to me though. I'm using its beefy ancestor -- the 15" Yoga 720.
I've got a 13" Yoga 2, and just got a 1st Gen X1 Yoga for work. I don't use touch all of the time, but I consider it better than the so-so touchpad on the Yoga 2 - I missed not having a Trackpoint, and I just realized after I'd had it a day or so - just touch the screen, dummy! It is easy to unlock - just touch the screen and swipe up. Running Win 7 on this would be terrible, but 8 or 10 (10 is better) gives it a good environment to work with.
running TPX1-Gen1 on w8.1, limited telemetry, limited bloatware and interface-unlocking OS compared to w10, and without two season system upgrades each year? w10 is good, too, but it's not superior to w8.1; w10 is a step backwards in terms of strip-down hardening for enthusiasts.
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brakdoo - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
Is anybody in the world using touch on a 14 inch laptop? Some marketing gags are going too far.Findecanor - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
Yeah, I'm trying to _avoid_ touching the screen so that it doesn't get smudged.MattMe - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
I found it useful sometimes for collaborative working or talking someone through some documentation, that type of thing. Swiping and zooming etc is nice and seems intuitive. But as a feature for most day-to-day activities, it's not very useful and the reflective screens on all this touch displays are unusable in any office environment I've worked in.Valantar - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
A 14" pen display is a very nice thing to have. After getting my 13" Dell Latitude 7390 2-in-1 last week (finally! Thanks to Intel's production issues, I've waited more than four months for this), I can't ever imagine going back to a non-pen-enabled laptop for work. So far I've used it for note taking, lectures, presentations and document markup, all of which are a significant portion of my job, and the flexibility this affords in use of the laptop is amazing. Definitely not a gimmick. And if my university didn't have an exclusive supply deal with Dell, the X1 Yoga would have been at the top of my list. An extra inch of screen real estate would definitely not bother me, at least not at the same weight.Prestissimo - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
You have no idea. Fluid assimilation into your workflow does take constant exploring and customizing programs and their features, but there is absolutely no turning back. My first 2 in 1 was an Asus Transformer, then Lenovo Yoga 3, HP Spectre x360 13 with the first pen and finally Thinkpad X1 Yoga 2nd gen with OLED, each one better than the last.There are lots of tweaking involved on both hardware and software level. From finding what screen protector and pen works for you to setting up programs like Chrome and PotPlayer to work with touchscreen, customizing macro gestures with GestureSign, learning big, complex programs like OnteNote and Sketch. I prefer convertibles to detachables, but the whole 2 in 1 concept has been a major game change in my life.
Biggest hindrance is of course, Microsoft's lack of native support for 2 in 1s even when Surface line is their best selling PCs. Compared to IOS especially the experience is, well, not enjoyable, but still a lot more productive and faster.
BigDragon - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
Yes. I use touch all the time when using a 2-in-1 as a digital whiteboard or when doing creative things like drawing and sculpting. The ThinkPad X1 Yoga isn't powerful enough to appeal to me though. I'm using its beefy ancestor -- the 15" Yoga 720.jbwhite99 - Wednesday, February 27, 2019 - link
I've got a 13" Yoga 2, and just got a 1st Gen X1 Yoga for work. I don't use touch all of the time, but I consider it better than the so-so touchpad on the Yoga 2 - I missed not having a Trackpoint, and I just realized after I'd had it a day or so - just touch the screen, dummy! It is easy to unlock - just touch the screen and swipe up. Running Win 7 on this would be terrible, but 8 or 10 (10 is better) gives it a good environment to work with.fire400 - Thursday, May 9, 2019 - link
running TPX1-Gen1 on w8.1, limited telemetry, limited bloatware and interface-unlocking OS compared to w10, and without two season system upgrades each year? w10 is good, too, but it's not superior to w8.1; w10 is a step backwards in terms of strip-down hardening for enthusiasts.cosmotic - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
Real dongle free Ethernet or a multi use port instead, pleasejbwhite99 - Wednesday, February 27, 2019 - link
You can be too portly (ie have a real Ethernet port) or be too thin - you can't be both.SirPerro - Friday, January 11, 2019 - link
That Lenovo logo in the bezel is a crime. I would totally NOT buy this laptop just for that reason.fire400 - Thursday, May 9, 2019 - link
lol... put a stick over it