"up to 180 TB per year workloads" = 0.49TB/day = around 0.04 DWPD (drive writes per day). Interesting how this rating is less than a lot of SSDs, even the cheaper ones.
HDDs being priced like a premium product while SSDs are also priced like a premium product. The average Joe is now trying to squeeze their files onto a cheap 256GB SSD, when they'd have a 1TB HDD back in early 2010s. Who says technology improves with time.
Looks like it didnt take long until Toshiba became part of the cartel, after they causes a significant dip in HDD prices. Prices rose in the last few months again by quite a bit.
As long as Best buy keep selling Western Digital EasyStore 8tb and 10tb drives for cheap, Toshiba can do whatever they want and charge whatever they want but they will continue to be irrelevant to me.
The easystore drives are either WD Red NAS drives or white label drives that have all of the features of the Red NAS drives but also include the 3.3 volt pen on the SATA power connector that might need to be disabled with some electrical or kapton tape, depending on your system. The 8 terabyte drives have been as low as $129 and are selling for $149 right now. The 10tb drives were $179 on Black Friday and I believe are still on sale for that price. All you have to do is shuck the drive from the external enclosure and you have yourself an 8 or 10 TB WD red for half price. They are 5400 RPM drives, but due to the areal density of the platters, they still do about 200 megabytes per second sequential. For mass storage there is no better deal. Nothing comes close.
Some say the drives that make it into the external storage devices are not the highest quality. I don't know myself. I do know WD Red drives, though.
Does it concern you that these drives that you're harvesting might not be the top in regards to quality? Or do you just figure that if you have enough, you can just replace the drives if/when they fail?
At that price (8TB for basically half retail cost), I think it might be worth it to buy a bunch to harvest enough drives to fill a 4 or 8-bay NAS (no RAID-0).
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mooninite - Friday, December 7, 2018 - link
Of course they ship with 512e sectors. Wow. :( Who are these customers that are still demanding 512?buxe2quec - Friday, December 7, 2018 - link
Are.thete customers negatively affected by 512e? I think most operating systems work on 4K sectors anyway, the penalty is therefore non existentPurpleTangent - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Uh, no this has 4k sectors. HDD Manufacturers moved to Advanced Format (4K) in 2011, and no one has made a 512b drive since then.The "512" in the name of this drive is for the 512mb write cache.
PurpleTangent - Wednesday, December 12, 2018 - link
Uh, no this has 4k sectors. HDD Manufacturers moved to Advanced Format (4K) in 2011, and no one has made a 512b drive since then.The "512" in the name of this drive is the name of their write cache technology.
ballsystemlord - Thursday, August 27, 2020 - link
This is so retarded.The drives are clearly stated as having a 256MB cache. "...they feature a 7200 RPM spindle speed, a 256 MB cache buffer,..."
I don't know what the 512e is for.
stephenbrooks - Friday, December 7, 2018 - link
"up to 180 TB per year workloads" = 0.49TB/day = around 0.04 DWPD (drive writes per day). Interesting how this rating is less than a lot of SSDs, even the cheaper ones.Supercell99 - Friday, December 7, 2018 - link
That's rated at 490 GB a day. That's pretty piss poor I would say.stephenbrooks - Saturday, December 8, 2018 - link
HDDs being priced like a premium product while SSDs are also priced like a premium product. The average Joe is now trying to squeeze their files onto a cheap 256GB SSD, when they'd have a 1TB HDD back in early 2010s. Who says technology improves with time.Beaver M. - Friday, December 7, 2018 - link
Looks like it didnt take long until Toshiba became part of the cartel, after they causes a significant dip in HDD prices. Prices rose in the last few months again by quite a bit.oRAirwolf - Saturday, December 8, 2018 - link
As long as Best buy keep selling Western Digital EasyStore 8tb and 10tb drives for cheap, Toshiba can do whatever they want and charge whatever they want but they will continue to be irrelevant to me.Beaver M. - Saturday, December 8, 2018 - link
For cheap?oRAirwolf - Saturday, December 8, 2018 - link
The easystore drives are either WD Red NAS drives or white label drives that have all of the features of the Red NAS drives but also include the 3.3 volt pen on the SATA power connector that might need to be disabled with some electrical or kapton tape, depending on your system. The 8 terabyte drives have been as low as $129 and are selling for $149 right now. The 10tb drives were $179 on Black Friday and I believe are still on sale for that price. All you have to do is shuck the drive from the external enclosure and you have yourself an 8 or 10 TB WD red for half price. They are 5400 RPM drives, but due to the areal density of the platters, they still do about 200 megabytes per second sequential. For mass storage there is no better deal. Nothing comes close.evanrich - Sunday, December 9, 2018 - link
Can confirm. Currently running 18x 8TB Reds (well, like 15 reds +3 whites) in RaidZ2... 144TB raw for <$2400, couldn't come close with anything else.scineram - Monday, December 10, 2018 - link
That is awfully wide for one vdev. Resilvering must be nail biting, especially with 2 failures.romrunning - Monday, December 10, 2018 - link
Some say the drives that make it into the external storage devices are not the highest quality. I don't know myself. I do know WD Red drives, though.Does it concern you that these drives that you're harvesting might not be the top in regards to quality? Or do you just figure that if you have enough, you can just replace the drives if/when they fail?
At that price (8TB for basically half retail cost), I think it might be worth it to buy a bunch to harvest enough drives to fill a 4 or 8-bay NAS (no RAID-0).
Toddwilliam - Monday, December 10, 2018 - link
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gooogleadvisor - Monday, December 10, 2018 - link
Seagate announced 16 TB hard drive. who can create bigger ?SSD actually every month became cheaper and cheaper. SSD it is feature.