Especially when you consider that is probably all it could do in a test environment.
It may have been limited by the phone though, have to keep that in mind. The flash in phones doesn't seem to be on par with SSDs.
I don't see 5G actually being that fast once you get out of a population center. The higher frequencies simply do not carry. They don't penetrate trees or walls.
Outside of a city with small arrays every block or so 5G will be about the same as 4G.
One phone won't be able to use the total bandwidth available in the UK where we have EE they have 4G plus why they bonded 3 different frequencies and they're getting speeds of like 1.2gb but you need three phones to be able to saturate it I believe each phone was only getting about 600mb on there own
Its not just what the phone speed it's also available bandwidth for everyone, more available more consistent it be for users
5g runs on both traditional phone frequencies and microwave bands. While the latter are only useful in outdoor urban areas due to short range and inability to penetrate structures, the former will give speedups anywhere they're deployed.
"Snapdragon 855 inside..." !!! "... Cannot be used as application processor" ?!?
Surely, surely must be an easier way to interface with the X50 modem, even if its not backwards-compatible? I assume this is just for the prototype, and something more reasonable will go into the final product?
Impressed with modem speed, but not data caps which makes speed pointless. :) My cable connection is only 60, so...pfft. But UNLIMITED, so...FREAKING YAY. I can pull down 10TB a month easily ;) Thank god for Cox Biz lines ;) $99 a month, static IP, servers all day etc. Gotta love cox. If that isn't enough they offer 100, 200 speeds. The 100 is $149 IIRC, which isn't bad as a biz line even for NON biz people...LOL. I'd gladly take 10-20Mbps on a phone at unlimited. It would actually be useful then for movies etc on the go. Currently, stupid, how fast do you need to browse the web? If you can't afford to watch movies on it, all this tech is useless except for biz with large data transfers on the road I guess. We need a law passed for unlimited data for all. Idiots fight for medical for all, how about unlimited data at a bare minimum of 10Mbps by LAW for all carriers and max $15 a month for that BASE config? :) Got my vote. :) They passed a law for "broadband" internet for 25Mbps down/3Mbps up I think to enable you to advertise BROADBAND. Why not do the same for phones, just less and require UNLIMITED as all cable should be.
News servers will do it all day for under $5/mo pegged at 50Mbps and not complain. Why is cable $100 for the same? Ahh, greed :) In fact my news server just advertised black friday for life UNLIMITED speed (way above my old speed which pegged my cox connection already), UNLIMITED data, for the same cost as the lowest tier...LOL. Again, you can peg a 100+ connection with this server all day, so cable is just ripping us all off too. VPN included in that cost (PIA your $32 won't be coming next year...ROFL). Have to test the VPN still, and hope it has server hopping all over like PIA, otherwise maybe PIA will still get my money. I love being from any country or US city (~52 or so servers to choose) I want pretty much and switching on a dime as many times as you like.
Back to my main point, cells and cable are just ripoffs. Which is why I currently don't own a cell, and haven't for over 5yrs (pretty much free PC upgrades every year with no cell...LOL). Waste of life, I have better things to do with my time and as an IT guy I won't answer a phone off work unless it's THEIR phone I'm mandated to carry it on call (and that's not more than a month here and there every year round robin style IT dept).
Well, that's in America, land of the free corporations, I assume. Here in Finland I have a 200 Mbit cell plan with unlimited data, unlimited calls and unlimited texts for 19€/mo (21,55 USD/mo).
The plan also includes unlimited calls and texts in EU countries, Baltics and Nordics and unlimited data in Baltics and Nordics, 15 GB/mo for free in other EU countries.
A $200-300 increase in phone price and I’m sure we’ll see an increase in the price of 5G data plans. Phones and data plans are already so expensive I’m almost always on wifi. I’m suremy feelings on 5G will change in the future when it’s forced on us and becomes the standard but until then I’ll pass.see : https://bluestacks.vip/ , https://textnow.vip/ , https://downloader.vip/vpn/
I don't see this having much impact outside of professional use at highly populated venues... things like sports stadiums, conventions, the Olympics, etc. But for those individuals who are willing to pay for it, I would imagine it will be an extremely useful tool. And for those use cases, having a dedicated hotspot makes a lot of sense, rather than a purely integrated phone implementation.
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iwod - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
Not impressed with 500Mbps.....0ldman79 - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
Especially when you consider that is probably all it could do in a test environment.It may have been limited by the phone though, have to keep that in mind. The flash in phones doesn't seem to be on par with SSDs.
I don't see 5G actually being that fast once you get out of a population center. The higher frequencies simply do not carry. They don't penetrate trees or walls.
Outside of a city with small arrays every block or so 5G will be about the same as 4G.
leexgx - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
One phone won't be able to use the total bandwidth available in the UK where we have EE they have 4G plus why they bonded 3 different frequencies and they're getting speeds of like 1.2gb but you need three phones to be able to saturate it I believe each phone was only getting about 600mb on there ownIts not just what the phone speed it's also available bandwidth for everyone, more available more consistent it be for users
DanNeely - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
5g runs on both traditional phone frequencies and microwave bands. While the latter are only useful in outdoor urban areas due to short range and inability to penetrate structures, the former will give speedups anywhere they're deployed.Yaldabaoth - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
"Yo dawg, I heard you like G's, so I put a phone on your phone, so you can charge while you charge!"DanNeely - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
Didn't someone do something equally grotesque for one of the earliest LTE deployments?Ryan Smith - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
I don't believe so. The worst thing I can remember there is that HTC put a laptop LTE controller in there, and it chugged power accordingly.(It remains as the only phone I've ever known its engineers to apologize for)
KateH - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
"Snapdragon 855 inside..."!!!
"... Cannot be used as application processor"
?!?
Surely, surely must be an easier way to interface with the X50 modem, even if its not backwards-compatible? I assume this is just for the prototype, and something more reasonable will go into the final product?
TheJian - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
Impressed with modem speed, but not data caps which makes speed pointless. :) My cable connection is only 60, so...pfft. But UNLIMITED, so...FREAKING YAY. I can pull down 10TB a month easily ;) Thank god for Cox Biz lines ;) $99 a month, static IP, servers all day etc. Gotta love cox. If that isn't enough they offer 100, 200 speeds. The 100 is $149 IIRC, which isn't bad as a biz line even for NON biz people...LOL. I'd gladly take 10-20Mbps on a phone at unlimited. It would actually be useful then for movies etc on the go. Currently, stupid, how fast do you need to browse the web? If you can't afford to watch movies on it, all this tech is useless except for biz with large data transfers on the road I guess. We need a law passed for unlimited data for all. Idiots fight for medical for all, how about unlimited data at a bare minimum of 10Mbps by LAW for all carriers and max $15 a month for that BASE config? :) Got my vote. :) They passed a law for "broadband" internet for 25Mbps down/3Mbps up I think to enable you to advertise BROADBAND. Why not do the same for phones, just less and require UNLIMITED as all cable should be.News servers will do it all day for under $5/mo pegged at 50Mbps and not complain. Why is cable $100 for the same? Ahh, greed :) In fact my news server just advertised black friday for life UNLIMITED speed (way above my old speed which pegged my cox connection already), UNLIMITED data, for the same cost as the lowest tier...LOL. Again, you can peg a 100+ connection with this server all day, so cable is just ripping us all off too. VPN included in that cost (PIA your $32 won't be coming next year...ROFL). Have to test the VPN still, and hope it has server hopping all over like PIA, otherwise maybe PIA will still get my money. I love being from any country or US city (~52 or so servers to choose) I want pretty much and switching on a dime as many times as you like.
Back to my main point, cells and cable are just ripoffs. Which is why I currently don't own a cell, and haven't for over 5yrs (pretty much free PC upgrades every year with no cell...LOL). Waste of life, I have better things to do with my time and as an IT guy I won't answer a phone off work unless it's THEIR phone I'm mandated to carry it on call (and that's not more than a month here and there every year round robin style IT dept).
Kepe - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
Well, that's in America, land of the free corporations, I assume. Here in Finland I have a 200 Mbit cell plan with unlimited data, unlimited calls and unlimited texts for 19€/mo (21,55 USD/mo).The plan also includes unlimited calls and texts in EU countries, Baltics and Nordics and unlimited data in Baltics and Nordics, 15 GB/mo for free in other EU countries.
Kepe - Wednesday, December 5, 2018 - link
I should add that 100 Mbit fiber costs around 30 €/mo depending on location. 300 Mbit is ~50€, 500 Mbit ~70€ and 900 Mbit ~90€ per month.Notmyusualid - Thursday, December 6, 2018 - link
@ Kepe - in other words, check mate..sabirah - Monday, December 10, 2018 - link
A $200-300 increase in phone price and I’m sure we’ll see an increase in the price of 5G data plans. Phones and data plans are already so expensive I’m almost always on wifi. I’m suremy feelings on 5G will change in the future when it’s forced on us and becomes the standard but until then I’ll pass.see : https://bluestacks.vip/ , https://textnow.vip/ , https://downloader.vip/vpn/c4v3man - Tuesday, December 11, 2018 - link
I don't see this having much impact outside of professional use at highly populated venues... things like sports stadiums, conventions, the Olympics, etc. But for those individuals who are willing to pay for it, I would imagine it will be an extremely useful tool. And for those use cases, having a dedicated hotspot makes a lot of sense, rather than a purely integrated phone implementation.