Well I have the first one on the list - Dell XPS 15 2in1 with 4K and I am amazed how much more powerful that my old Lenovo Y50. I was hoping better compatibility with applications with video card. But the size and 2in1 factor is great - you could literary stack 2 of this guys in space of Y50.
I know some don't believe but difference between 8th and 4th series Intel Quad cores is amazing.
With respect, a small English language fix: "perks" doesn't relate to peculiarities or in fact anything negative. It's short for "perquisites", meaning (roughly) a privilege or benefit.
that Dell 15 listed has all the "power" of gaming cpu-gpu for laptop but the screen they chose to use is not at all designed for it...seems pretty pricey for just "media" use and likely core i7 and Vega M are complete overkill with that in mind LOL
Almost as pad as Apple, ramp price up but not keep in line with intended audience expectations of product for the price, even the screen (based on a few reviews) is "lacking" on real world sRGB or AdobeRGB color coverage.
4k is one thing, but delivering what is promised is another completely different thing altogether ^.^
As for the QLC reducing price...LOL, price for them to make the product "maybe" but likely not when it comes to "on the shelf" especially when DRAM makes for all of 2016-2017-2018 have more or less done what they could to keep pricing jacked up, so their idea is, get lower endurance, price to make is much less, but keep cost on shelf "about the same"...mehh to each their own, I rather endurance/capacity/price not just save "them" money while we get shafted for expected endurance/performance at the end of the day.
to me, that is exactly what QLC was meant for, make it dirt cheap for them to produce that much more, lower performance but price near the same (even if costs 1/2 to 1/4 less production)
I would add HP's ENVY x360 with AMD Ryzen 2500U as the laptop that made all 1200 USD Intel-based laptops drop to 600 USD , just by showing up on the market, no matter if people heard about it or not.
Now Intel either needs a discrete GPU from AMD or nVIDIA or an eGPU from AMD, to be able to sell its chips in laptops costing more than 1200 USD.
P.S. One mention, do you know how a nice Blue-Ray movie looks like in 240 FPS ? I'll tell you, it looks like crap :) and anybody who has a simple 4K TV knows it...
....but hey ... I guess SAMSUNG's marketing monies are good ... especially since for years they've been selling technology literally stolen from LG.
To me, bringing up QLED (which is a poor-man's excuse to have a marketing term that resembles OLED) and considering it brings something "impressive" to the table .... it just sounds bad.
Besides mobile stuff, nothing really that exciting this year. Monitors have been stagnant for a long time now, they are still trying to figure out 4k out without compromises. Even desktop CPU have not really improved much besides more cores, which not really a thing normal people care about unless you use them other than productivity/gaming.
Even on mobile stuff, that area is so fragmented. Makers can't decide what to make, yet everyone doesn't come close to price/performance ratio one looks for in tablets/latops/etc. It uses to be every laptop was at least 15inches. Now everyone is trying to pack everything in it and make a 12inch the same price. I would rather have screen size with high DPI than super faster innards.
- Ryzen 2nd gen was impressive - AMD returning to (somewhat) mainstream laptops - Ipad Pro's pencil magnet thing was clever - Styli for everything - the AMD-Intel chip inside the new NUC and MBP - Fortnite selling to a younger generation on Samsung/Android sideloading
I think disappointments are easier to write this year: - iPhone pricing - Undersupported Android tablets being replaced, badly, by undersupported chrome tablets - Surface not updating ports - Windows on ARM - No MacBook ARM - No one can seem to do CPUs and GPUs at the same time except Apple, who hobbles them in software - Valve losing steam with Steam: steam link gone, Fortnite rising, VR limited - Windows 10 teething troubles ... 3 years in - Fortnite selling to a younger generation on Samsung/Android sideloading - Prices set to rise with trade wars
I think these QLC drives are a bad idea especially in the way they're being marketed. I'm not even talking about performance, the speed reduction I could live with. However, they're orders of magnitude worse in P/E cycles, retention, and endurance. These manufacturers know this and they're preying on the lack of education and focusing on price. Even so far as advertising these drives (The Samsung 860 QVO one in particular) as using 4 bit MLC memory (which 4 bit MLC is *always* QLC) implying that it is on safer MLC memory:
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HStewart - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - link
Well I have the first one on the list - Dell XPS 15 2in1 with 4K and I am amazed how much more powerful that my old Lenovo Y50. I was hoping better compatibility with applications with video card. But the size and 2in1 factor is great - you could literary stack 2 of this guys in space of Y50.I know some don't believe but difference between 8th and 4th series Intel Quad cores is amazing.
mischlep - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - link
"Of course, 3D QLC NAND has its perks when it comes to P/E cycles, retention, performance, and endurance." Would't those be "quirks", and not "perks"?Arbie - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - link
With respect, a small English language fix: "perks" doesn't relate to peculiarities or in fact anything negative. It's short for "perquisites", meaning (roughly) a privilege or benefit.Ashinjuka - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - link
TILpiroroadkill - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - link
Yeah, it didn't make much sense. Quirks would be better, as mentioned above.imaheadcase - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - link
Better than people that use "etc,etc" together. That is annoying.Dragonstongue - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - link
that Dell 15 listed has all the "power" of gaming cpu-gpu for laptop but the screen they chose to use is not at all designed for it...seems pretty pricey for just "media" use and likely core i7 and Vega M are complete overkill with that in mind LOLAlmost as pad as Apple, ramp price up but not keep in line with intended audience expectations of product for the price, even the screen (based on a few reviews) is "lacking" on real world sRGB or AdobeRGB color coverage.
4k is one thing, but delivering what is promised is another completely different thing altogether ^.^
As for the QLC reducing price...LOL, price for them to make the product "maybe" but likely not when it comes to "on the shelf" especially when DRAM makes for all of 2016-2017-2018 have more or less done what they could to keep pricing jacked up, so their idea is, get lower endurance, price to make is much less, but keep cost on shelf "about the same"...mehh to each their own, I rather endurance/capacity/price not just save "them" money while we get shafted for expected endurance/performance at the end of the day.
to me, that is exactly what QLC was meant for, make it dirt cheap for them to produce that much more, lower performance but price near the same (even if costs 1/2 to 1/4 less production)
am done now ^.^
IGTrading - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - link
I would add HP's ENVY x360 with AMD Ryzen 2500U as the laptop that made all 1200 USD Intel-based laptops drop to 600 USD , just by showing up on the market, no matter if people heard about it or not.Now Intel either needs a discrete GPU from AMD or nVIDIA or an eGPU from AMD, to be able to sell its chips in laptops costing more than 1200 USD.
P.S. One mention, do you know how a nice Blue-Ray movie looks like in 240 FPS ? I'll tell you, it looks like crap :) and anybody who has a simple 4K TV knows it...
....but hey ... I guess SAMSUNG's marketing monies are good ... especially since for years they've been selling technology literally stolen from LG.
To me, bringing up QLED (which is a poor-man's excuse to have a marketing term that resembles OLED) and considering it brings something "impressive" to the table .... it just sounds bad.
imaheadcase - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - link
Besides mobile stuff, nothing really that exciting this year. Monitors have been stagnant for a long time now, they are still trying to figure out 4k out without compromises. Even desktop CPU have not really improved much besides more cores, which not really a thing normal people care about unless you use them other than productivity/gaming.Even on mobile stuff, that area is so fragmented. Makers can't decide what to make, yet everyone doesn't come close to price/performance ratio one looks for in tablets/latops/etc. It uses to be every laptop was at least 15inches. Now everyone is trying to pack everything in it and make a 12inch the same price. I would rather have screen size with high DPI than super faster innards.
nico_mach - Thursday, November 29, 2018 - link
- Ryzen 2nd gen was impressive- AMD returning to (somewhat) mainstream laptops
- Ipad Pro's pencil magnet thing was clever
- Styli for everything
- the AMD-Intel chip inside the new NUC and MBP
- Fortnite selling to a younger generation on Samsung/Android sideloading
I think disappointments are easier to write this year:
- iPhone pricing
- Undersupported Android tablets being replaced, badly, by undersupported chrome tablets
- Surface not updating ports
- Windows on ARM
- No MacBook ARM
- No one can seem to do CPUs and GPUs at the same time except Apple, who hobbles them in software
- Valve losing steam with Steam: steam link gone, Fortnite rising, VR limited
- Windows 10 teething troubles ... 3 years in
- Fortnite selling to a younger generation on Samsung/Android sideloading
- Prices set to rise with trade wars
It's been a weird year. Good riddance.
Ankou - Friday, November 30, 2018 - link
I think these QLC drives are a bad idea especially in the way they're being marketed. I'm not even talking about performance, the speed reduction I could live with. However, they're orders of magnitude worse in P/E cycles, retention, and endurance. These manufacturers know this and they're preying on the lack of education and focusing on price. Even so far as advertising these drives (The Samsung 860 QVO one in particular) as using 4 bit MLC memory (which 4 bit MLC is *always* QLC) implying that it is on safer MLC memory:https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronic...
That is completely a scummy marketing/PR way of doing business and should be on a list of worst trends of 2018
Prestissimo - Saturday, December 1, 2018 - link
My favorite laptops are the Thinkpads X1 Yoga 3rd Gen and X1 Extreme. Now Lenovo combine those 2, I would be extremely excited.AMD still needs a lot more presence and also have a lot of work to catch up with Intel and Nvidia.
hnlog - Saturday, December 1, 2018 - link
Not so exciting...I would add
* VAIO A12
* Apple T2 chip
* Threadripper 2 WX
* GeForce RTX
* Pixel 3 Camera
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