Thankful Samsung gave 96L drives a new model name, instead of mingling it via the supply chain with 64L. Did not like when they did that with the 850 Evo/Pro with 32L and 48L.
Is there a launch date? 970 EVO's have been on sale for a while, so presumably 970 EVO+ replaces the 970 EVO.
No 970 PRO+ means...the MLC is still on 64L? Does MLC not scale with layers like TLC does?
Why does the ostensibly slower QLC drive get a higher model number, i.e., 980 QVO? Presumably, they're phasing in the drives so the 980 EVO / 980 PRO come in at later dates?
This was not a consumer/retail-focused event, so they may have simply not bothered to mention a niche product like an updated PRO. This wasn't meant to be a substitute for a proper launch event with real detailed specs. It was more about their memory technology accomplishments, with the specific products mentioned as examples.
Do we know about the pricing on the QLC drives? Would be great if I can substitute my HDD with these SSDs. The previous articles makes these sound like very good substitutes for spinning drives for improved game loading time and stuff.
HDD = 2c a GB today. SDD = 13c a GB today. QLC should bring a price drop of 25% and 96 layers maybe the same. So best case scenario is 7c a GB, but don't hold your breath.
$200-240 for a 2TB SATA SSD would still be a welcome sight, before the NAND shortage of the last few years I would've thought we'd easily be there by now...
My next investment will be a nice QLC data drive for my station. I'm happy with the 1TB NVME drive for my windows installation with programs and games, plenty of room. But I want to replace the 2.5" 750GB HDD I have for my miscellaneous data like pictures, videos, documents, downloads. I'm eyeballing some Crucial/WD/Samsung M.2 SATA 1TB or 2TB drives, but if QLC hits the streets at good enough prices I'll take the plunge. Though I may wait for the second gen, got a bit burned by the 840 TLC drive. The eventual goal is a tiny SSD only file server with tens of TB of storage. :D
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ikjadoon - Wednesday, October 17, 2018 - link
So, on the consumer side, we'll have:860 QVO (QLC)
970 EVO+ (96L TLC)
980 QVO (QLC)
Thankful Samsung gave 96L drives a new model name, instead of mingling it via the supply chain with 64L. Did not like when they did that with the 850 Evo/Pro with 32L and 48L.
Is there a launch date? 970 EVO's have been on sale for a while, so presumably 970 EVO+ replaces the 970 EVO.
ikjadoon - Wednesday, October 17, 2018 - link
No 970 PRO+ means...the MLC is still on 64L? Does MLC not scale with layers like TLC does?Why does the ostensibly slower QLC drive get a higher model number, i.e., 980 QVO? Presumably, they're phasing in the drives so the 980 EVO / 980 PRO come in at later dates?
Billy Tallis - Thursday, October 18, 2018 - link
This was not a consumer/retail-focused event, so they may have simply not bothered to mention a niche product like an updated PRO. This wasn't meant to be a substitute for a proper launch event with real detailed specs. It was more about their memory technology accomplishments, with the specific products mentioned as examples.Dark_Complex - Thursday, October 18, 2018 - link
They might be waiting for PCIe 4 to be available in consumer systems before announcing the 980 EVO and 980 PRO.bill44 - Thursday, October 18, 2018 - link
Unlikely. Don’t know about Intel’s roadmap, but AMD is targeting 2020 for PCIe 4.0.Coaris - Monday, January 28, 2019 - link
That's not true. PCIe 4.0 was announced to be supported with Zen 2 (Q2-Q3 2019), so let's hope we get decent gains on a 980 model this year.Billy Tallis - Thursday, October 18, 2018 - link
There's no sign of PCIe 4.0 support on any of their smaller NVMe controllers, just the big one for the PM/BM17xx family.hanselltc - Thursday, October 18, 2018 - link
Do we know about the pricing on the QLC drives? Would be great if I can substitute my HDD with these SSDs. The previous articles makes these sound like very good substitutes for spinning drives for improved game loading time and stuff.Amandtec - Thursday, October 18, 2018 - link
HDD = 2c a GB today.SDD = 13c a GB today.
QLC should bring a price drop of 25% and 96 layers maybe the same.
So best case scenario is 7c a GB, but don't hold your breath.
Impulses - Sunday, October 21, 2018 - link
$200-240 for a 2TB SATA SSD would still be a welcome sight, before the NAND shortage of the last few years I would've thought we'd easily be there by now...GTRagnarok - Tuesday, October 23, 2018 - link
There's a 2TB Micron SSD that can be had for $250 or less many times over the past 6 months.Death666Angel - Friday, October 19, 2018 - link
My next investment will be a nice QLC data drive for my station. I'm happy with the 1TB NVME drive for my windows installation with programs and games, plenty of room. But I want to replace the 2.5" 750GB HDD I have for my miscellaneous data like pictures, videos, documents, downloads. I'm eyeballing some Crucial/WD/Samsung M.2 SATA 1TB or 2TB drives, but if QLC hits the streets at good enough prices I'll take the plunge. Though I may wait for the second gen, got a bit burned by the 840 TLC drive. The eventual goal is a tiny SSD only file server with tens of TB of storage. :DSharpEars - Friday, October 19, 2018 - link
Where are the write endurance figures??storage Dude - Friday, November 16, 2018 - link
Does anyone know what is the difference between Samsung SZ985 vs SZ983? Is that gone now?