The extra capacity is nice, but there might be some limits for people that installed very large HSFs in their systems. Also, this doesn't mean a lot for the laptop space where the vast majority of computers sold exist. It's actually sort of difficult to purchase a desktop aside from various small form factor systems that use SODIMMs and M.2 or 2.5 inch SATA drives in US retail spaces.
As I understand things - based on following PC builders blogs/YT channels - no one is asking for taller memory modules. It's already hard enough to fit coolers over existing RGB heat spreaders. Who are these for?
Obviously it's a pretty niche thing. The main use case I see is ITX builds with 64GB of RAM, most of those boards only have 2 DIMM slots. Clearance is not an issue if you use liquid cooling.
If RAM capacity is mission critical and you can afford these along with water cooling, it seems like a total waste to go with anything less than a larger chassis with at least four slots. That's quite the niche! I'm not saying the niche doesn't exist or that people shouldn't do it - I've just never seen such a niche before. Somewhere out there, 62 people just got really excited. ;-)
@0ldman79 most boards will probably run them just fine. Motherboard vendors tend to be conservative with their official support statements. If they haven't tested with a 32GB DIMM, they'll call it unsupported.
Ian without RGB will they perform slower and lose 5% raw performance because of them missing the blinking lights? /joking of coarse. I can see a use case for these for a small group of people and probably content providers that edited large video files that huge amounts of memory I guess.
These (allegedly, based on leaked pictures) only have 16 DDR packages per side. I have 16GB RDIMMs in my server with 19 DDR packages per side and a register chip in the standard baseline DIMM form factor. Being this tall is entirely about the aesthetics.
On top of that, I do believe (once again, based on the leaked picture) that the DIMM has 2 SPD chips, which would make this literally 2 UDIMMs on one PCB, and not a quad-ranked UDIMM as one might hope.
Well, I'd like to say that this is the only way to get 64GB in a two-DIMM mITX build, but it's going to be so hard to get DIMMs that tall into a SFF build that it's kind of off the table.
These are actually pretty cool, and if it means 128 GB of RAM on mainstream motherboards I'm all for them. With current memory prices, though, these are likely $300-400 a stick, and I'm too poor for that. 128 GB of RAM would cost as much as my system.
i believe the need for these is next gen threadripper with 1TB ram support. most consumer grade intel chips are limited to 64 GB ram. being non-ECC i think workstations are the market like cad/cam or video encoding.
"Mainstream client CPUs only officially support up to 64 GB" When have computer hobbyists ever cared about official support? If it fits, we see if it boots. If it boots, we see if it is stable. If it is stable, we see if it can be overclocked. If it can't be overclocked, we stab it with a pencil to unlock it(I still love the simplicity of the pencil trick). Manufacturer specifications are not a rule to be followed, they are a challenge to be overcome.
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PeachNCream - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
The extra capacity is nice, but there might be some limits for people that installed very large HSFs in their systems. Also, this doesn't mean a lot for the laptop space where the vast majority of computers sold exist. It's actually sort of difficult to purchase a desktop aside from various small form factor systems that use SODIMMs and M.2 or 2.5 inch SATA drives in US retail spaces.nathanddrews - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
As I understand things - based on following PC builders blogs/YT channels - no one is asking for taller memory modules. It's already hard enough to fit coolers over existing RGB heat spreaders. Who are these for?notashill - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Obviously it's a pretty niche thing. The main use case I see is ITX builds with 64GB of RAM, most of those boards only have 2 DIMM slots. Clearance is not an issue if you use liquid cooling.nathanddrews - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
If RAM capacity is mission critical and you can afford these along with water cooling, it seems like a total waste to go with anything less than a larger chassis with at least four slots. That's quite the niche! I'm not saying the niche doesn't exist or that people shouldn't do it - I've just never seen such a niche before. Somewhere out there, 62 people just got really excited. ;-)ballsystemlord - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
You mean 64. It's a power of 2. (:0ldman79 - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
How many boards can run 32GB DIMMs?I'm pretty sure all of mine are limited to 8GB per DIMM (DDR3 though).
Most that support 64GB top out at 16GB per DIMM and have 4 slots.
wolrah - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
@0ldman79 most boards will probably run them just fine. Motherboard vendors tend to be conservative with their official support statements. If they haven't tested with a 32GB DIMM, they'll call it unsupported.Ian Cutress - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
The taller modules give double the capacity, so it's for the people who want capacity. It's not a style thing.nathanddrews - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
*ahem* RGBrocky12345 - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Ian without RGB will they perform slower and lose 5% raw performance because of them missing the blinking lights? /joking of coarse. I can see a use case for these for a small group of people and probably content providers that edited large video files that huge amounts of memory I guess.ZeDestructor - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
These (allegedly, based on leaked pictures) only have 16 DDR packages per side. I have 16GB RDIMMs in my server with 19 DDR packages per side and a register chip in the standard baseline DIMM form factor. Being this tall is entirely about the aesthetics.On top of that, I do believe (once again, based on the leaked picture) that the DIMM has 2 SPD chips, which would make this literally 2 UDIMMs on one PCB, and not a quad-ranked UDIMM as one might hope.
So much empty PCB space though: https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2018/09/ASUS-ZADAK2.j...
ZeDestructor - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Err.. 18 DDR chips per side, and 1 register chip per DIMM(edit button when?)
Ian Cutress - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Can't see that picture. What page is it on?Mr Perfect - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Well, I'd like to say that this is the only way to get 64GB in a two-DIMM mITX build, but it's going to be so hard to get DIMMs that tall into a SFF build that it's kind of off the table.Inteli - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Because who needs heat sink clearance?These are actually pretty cool, and if it means 128 GB of RAM on mainstream motherboards I'm all for them. With current memory prices, though, these are likely $300-400 a stick, and I'm too poor for that. 128 GB of RAM would cost as much as my system.
Akasamaru - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Release date?Ian Cutress - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Still waiting on informationpaul sss - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
i believe the need for these is next gen threadripper with 1TB ram support.most consumer grade intel chips are limited to 64 GB ram.
being non-ECC i think workstations are the market like cad/cam or video encoding.
Lord of the Bored - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
"Mainstream client CPUs only officially support up to 64 GB"When have computer hobbyists ever cared about official support?
If it fits, we see if it boots. If it boots, we see if it is stable. If it is stable, we see if it can be overclocked. If it can't be overclocked, we stab it with a pencil to unlock it(I still love the simplicity of the pencil trick).
Manufacturer specifications are not a rule to be followed, they are a challenge to be overcome.