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  • bubblyboo - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Snapdragon 835? Yikes. Needing to double the size of the phone for 5G? Double yikes.
  • jabber - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    They said 3G would be amazing, it was meh.

    They said 4G would be amazing, it was meh.

    They say 5G will be amazing...
  • smilingcrow - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Well try going back to 2g and see how you get on.
  • lashek37 - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    That's a dumb statement ,most people don't want 6inch phone, and most people don't have big hands.
  • cigar3tte - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    6" with thin bezels should be barely bigger than the 5.8" iPhone X.
  • PeachNCream - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    That's a commonplace argument in favor of larger screens. "If phone B has less bezel, it will not be significantly larger than phone A," but the problem is the relatively short vision people presenting the argument often have by picking a current size screen like say 5.5 inches and saying that 6 inches isn't much larger. That's true, but regardless of bezel reductions, 6 inch phones are substantially larger than 4 inch or 3.5 inch phones. There is a substantially under served market segment of phone buyers that would jump on a mid- to upper-end phone if it was smaller and more practical to carry around. Some of those people wouldn't be bothered much about a few additional mm of thickness in the name of battery life and managing SoC heat production too.
  • Impulses - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link

    Size is the main reason I bought a Pixel instead of a OnePlus #, Sony seemed to be the only one still making half decent small phones and they've become kind of irrelevant in the US... I still liked the size of my Nexus 5 better, meh.
  • nirolf - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link

    I don't understand why most manufactures ignore this big market. It's not a niche market, Apple is selling millions of "small" iPhones: the 7 and 8 still sell better than their Plus counterparts!

    And no one is trying to compete with them, the only small phones are usually low-end phones. More troubling is that even Apple seems it will ditch the small iPhones, rumors suggest this year the 5.8" will be the smallest iPhone.
  • Gunbuster - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Whats the use case? How many users do something on their handset that would be more enjoyable or noticeably different at 1 to 20Gbits?
  • Djebel714 - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    This is exciting. Not for the 5G. For the price point. Verizon is offering $300 off with a trade in.
    $180 comes to $7.50/month! 835 SoC for less than $10/month? Yes.
    I got my 16:9 screen ratio MotoZ2 play for 99¢/month on black friday and love the value. I'm sure Moto/Verizon will offer the 18:9 ratio screened Z3 at $10-$5/month sooner than later. Keep yr eyes open for a that.
    The only curious thing is the Z3 play (with the same exact form factor and hardware as the Z3) being offered for $450-$500 dollars with a much slower processor...for the customers on the non-Verizon carriers. The Z3 play has been available for a few weeks with a one week wait for the "flagship" phone for Motorola this year.
  • Rocket321 - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Please clarify if $480 includes the 5G add-on. My guess it does not.
    Also will be interesting to see how carriers price 5G service. Seems like a golden opportunity to jack prices back up and/or bring back the data cap / data bucket (anti-consumer) plans.
  • Akhenaten69 - Tuesday, May 21, 2019 - link

    It should, as I paid 280 USD for the 64GB z3play. It's a remarkably thin phone, particularly without a case. You won't be able to find a case to cover the mods and phone, together. My large hands cannot handle this thin-assed phone, without the OtterBox.
  • Wardrive86 - Friday, August 31, 2018 - link

    It should be noted the Adreno 540 in the Moto Z3 is clocked at 850 mhz, compared to the standard 835s' 710 mhz Adreno 540

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