I asked Sony about if and when this drive will be available in Canada. Sony responded that this model will not be available, but the replacement drive will be in august. Anyone knows about a new model of this drive, except the external one?
I think the DL burners eventually will be faster than 4x speed, maybe 6x-8x. Remember that it was not long ago that many said that DL burning would not be possible at all. Quote from the same article as you linked to: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/140#philips
"For instance, one company (BenQ) mentioned to us that 4x would be the maximum recording speed for DL discs but the spokesperson for Philips said that it will probably go faster than that."
I am concerned about software support specifically choosing when the DVD switches layers. In commercial DVD's, they purposely put the change to the second layer at a part of the movie where it will be less noticable. (The switch causes about a 1 second pause.).
If I am burning a home movie onto a DVD DL and if I don't have control of where the dual layer switch occurs, it may occur in the middle of an undesirable moment in my movie.
I wonder if there will be any way to stipulate where this switch occurs?
FYI: Here's a quote from Philips, who created the DL format. Quote: (According to Philips it will not be possible to upgrade existing 8x DVD recorders to DL layer recorders, contrary to what some rumours are saying. In theory the laser power of an 8x drive is strong enough to handle DL but the problem is, is that the OPU (Optical Pickup Unit) of the drive is often not good enough. This will lead to quality problems. However, some drives with good OPUs could, in theory, be upgraded although they’d have to be handpicked)
First of all, finding Dual Layer DVD media will likely take some time. Even though it isn't hard to find DVD+R/DVD-R media now, finding quality media for a reasonable price is still a gamble, much like CD-R media was in its earlier days. Secondly, if this drive has different pickups then it isn't "essentially the same as the Gigabyte" DVD writer. To write to the second layer of a dual layer DVD, more sensitive mechanisms are needed, and obviously this was done. Just because two DVD writers have the same chipset does not mean they will burn the same; if they have a different pickup mechanism, the drives will likely differ in performance. This has already been proven by the NEC 2500A and Pioneer 107D, which both use the same chipset but do not have exactly the same performance.
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Rumble - Thursday, July 29, 2004 - link
Will it work with XCopy?Rumble - Thursday, July 29, 2004 - link
Will it work with XCopy?KristopherKubicki - Saturday, July 17, 2004 - link
Dizan,I think it will be 4X DVD DL capable (not that there will be any media anyway).
You can probably still order it or the LiteON SOHW-832S from the US though.
Kristopher
DizanTar - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
I asked Sony about if and when this drive will be available in Canada. Sony responded that this model will not be available, but the replacement drive will be in august. Anyone knows about a new model of this drive, except the external one?DizanTar - Friday, June 11, 2004 - link
fedrive - Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - link
Atomic holographic Storage using Ultra Violet Light should offer a challenge to Blu-ray.http://www.colossalstorage.net/colossal5j.htm
AbRASiON - Thursday, May 6, 2004 - link
I concur with Tim (post #15) - it would be nice to know we can control precisely where the layer change is.I'm also curious on the compatibility of a BURNT +R DL or -R DL disc on most DVD players - I bet it's quite a bit lower than non DL disc's
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Belzer - Thursday, May 6, 2004 - link
I think the DL burners eventually will be faster than 4x speed, maybe 6x-8x. Remember that it was not long ago that many said that DL burning would not be possible at all. Quote from the same article as you linked to: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/140#philips"For instance, one company (BenQ) mentioned to us that 4x would be the maximum recording speed for DL discs but the spokesperson for Philips said that it will probably go faster than that."
MysticMan1 - Thursday, May 6, 2004 - link
Also the DL format speed will max out at 4x speed because of the amount of power needed to burn a double layer disc.timmiser - Thursday, May 6, 2004 - link
I am concerned about software support specifically choosing when the DVD switches layers. In commercial DVD's, they purposely put the change to the second layer at a part of the movie where it will be less noticable. (The switch causes about a 1 second pause.).If I am burning a home movie onto a DVD DL and if I don't have control of where the dual layer switch occurs, it may occur in the middle of an undesirable moment in my movie.
I wonder if there will be any way to stipulate where this switch occurs?
-Tim
MysticMan1 - Thursday, May 6, 2004 - link
I have the Sony DRU700A drive deals posted in the Anandtech "hot deal" forum here: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=...FYI: Here's a quote from Philips, who created the DL format. Quote: (According to Philips it will not be possible to upgrade existing 8x DVD recorders to DL layer recorders, contrary to what some rumours are saying. In theory the laser power of an 8x drive is strong enough to handle DL but the problem is, is that the OPU (Optical Pickup Unit) of the drive is often not good enough. This will lead to quality problems. However, some drives with good OPUs could, in theory, be upgraded although they’d have to be handpicked)
Adul - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
mmm looks up his dvd burner model :DKristopherKubicki - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
hahher:fairly likely. As we mentioned in the review we firmware upgraded our GO-W0808A to DL.
Kristopher
Ian@CDRlabs - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
According to Sony, its $199.99 right now.hahher - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
what about price of this burner? price of other burnes (lite-on)?since components are similar to other current burners, how likely is it to see firmware upgrades to DL?
Ian@CDRlabs - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
Hmm.. maybe you should ask the author Karr.KristopherKubicki - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
Ian@CDRlabs: Not officially.Kristopher
Ian@CDRlabs - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
KProbe2 does support PI/PO error testing (or BLER as you call them) for DVD+R DL.LoneWolf15 - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
First of all, finding Dual Layer DVD media will likely take some time. Even though it isn't hard to find DVD+R/DVD-R media now, finding quality media for a reasonable price is still a gamble, much like CD-R media was in its earlier days.Secondly, if this drive has different pickups then it isn't "essentially the same as the Gigabyte" DVD writer. To write to the second layer of a dual layer DVD, more sensitive mechanisms are needed, and obviously this was done. Just because two DVD writers have the same chipset does not mean they will burn the same; if they have a different pickup mechanism, the drives will likely differ in performance. This has already been proven by the NEC 2500A and Pioneer 107D, which both use the same chipset but do not have exactly the same performance.
Gromis - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
My feeling while reading ths: "poor those who bought DVD-RAM drives..."AIWGuru - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
To the person who asked about compatibility with set top boxes, take a look at the book type section. It's all there.DerekBaker - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
Shouldn't "3x in speed" be "3x increase in time" ?Chu - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
Big question - will these playin on a settop DVD player, and how good is the compatiblity if yes?araczynski - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
Bahumbug! I say :)Just another consumer milking before the blues come out...