Interesting. This is the first time in a long time that I recall Intel giving us the privilege of using the same motherboard chipset for a newer generation processor. If only they supported their platforms and motherboards for a few years like AMD, so the concept of buying into a new platform and "upgrading" to a newer/faster CPU actually made logical sense in the future.
2. Upgrading Intel doesn't make sense, unless you buy an i3 or i5. When they release a new lineup, it is the fastest one on the market and does not underperform in certain tasks. The upgrade cost would be higher than the gain.
3. And it is not going to be any different with AMD in the future. If they plan adding more cores, expect the same. Mobos will need better VRMS, cooling, 10+ cores will require quad chanel and more pcie lines, etc..
Sandy and Ivy was on Z67/77. Haswell and Broadwell was on Z87/Z97, with an even worse caveat (iirc) that Broadwell didn't work on Z87. Skylake and Kaby Lake were on Z170/270, with the only caveat that Kaby Lake was only around for about 7 months or something before being replaced. It's still two gens. Coffee Lake and Coffee Lake refresh will cover about two years of products.
Like it or not, Intel has pretty consistently caused a motherboard break every two generations of processors. You could consider the generation break happening at a time when they increased core count by 50% unlucky, but the actual behavior isn't unusual.
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JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
Interesting. This is the first time in a long time that I recall Intel giving us the privilege of using the same motherboard chipset for a newer generation processor. If only they supported their platforms and motherboards for a few years like AMD, so the concept of buying into a new platform and "upgrading" to a newer/faster CPU actually made logical sense in the future.Hxx - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
um kabylake and skylake can be used on both Z170 and Z270 boards.... i dont think this is anything new.smilingcrow - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
Two generations of CPUs is the norm for Intel so nothing to see here.Maxiking - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
1. You always have had 2 gens per a chipset.2. Upgrading Intel doesn't make sense, unless you buy an i3 or i5. When they release a new lineup, it is the fastest one on the market and does not underperform in certain tasks. The upgrade cost would be higher than the gain.
3. And it is not going to be any different with AMD in the future. If they plan adding more cores, expect the same. Mobos will need better VRMS, cooling, 10+ cores will require quad chanel and more pcie lines, etc..
Lolimaster - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
Why? They're already giving you a 125w 16core for TR4, and that's with 12nm and quad channel.They could easily launch a 65w and 95w with higher frecuencies with Zen2 7nm or a 16core @125w with 3.8Ghz base.
29a - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
All of us who bought Z170-270 boards were screwed hard.smilingcrow - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
No, you were just uninformed of Intel's typical business practices.Ignorance of common facts within context is on you.
Drumsticks - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
Sandy and Ivy was on Z67/77. Haswell and Broadwell was on Z87/Z97, with an even worse caveat (iirc) that Broadwell didn't work on Z87. Skylake and Kaby Lake were on Z170/270, with the only caveat that Kaby Lake was only around for about 7 months or something before being replaced. It's still two gens. Coffee Lake and Coffee Lake refresh will cover about two years of products.Like it or not, Intel has pretty consistently caused a motherboard break every two generations of processors. You could consider the generation break happening at a time when they increased core count by 50% unlucky, but the actual behavior isn't unusual.
Lolimaster - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
They should be compatible with Skylake mobos, because they're the same damn cpu with the same damn IPC, just adding more cores.Tkan215 - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
Intel want money they dont want you to resell old cpu and want you to buy new motherboard therefore revenue go upHarry Lloyd - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
Thank you, AMD.