If this is aimed at gamers why don’t they offer a 2k panel to go with that 1070?
Also 8GB of ram by default? Should be 16 these days. Of course you can add up to 32 but it seems they want to set price points that force upgrading charges to get something that should be that way from the beginning.
Still it looks like a nice laptop for a clevo rebrand.
The "2k" nomenclature for displays always felt a bit weird to me. Even though it is slightly false, the general public has adopted 4k for the 3840x2160 resolution. As a result, 1920x1080 should be the 2k resolution, no? It only misses the mark by 4.2%. But many people seem to use 2k for 2560x1440, even though it is closer to 3k than 2k and mathematically rounds to 3k as well. Since you complain about them not offering a 2k solution, I assume you mean 1440p as well? :)
there is absolutely no justification for calling 2560x1440 "2k". it's 1440p or just 2560x1440. You have to twist yourself into knots to come up with a reason it could possibly be called 2k
The rules for the -k terminology are pretty flexible. All it means is that the horizontal resolution is close to however many thousand pixels. If you want specifics it's best to ignore the -k metrics.
2k and 4k are from cinema world, where the aspect ratio/vertical resolution is variable, so they use the width as the standard measure for resolution, e.g. 2k = 2048 pixels wide, 4k = 4096 pixels wide. Then marketeers got their hands on it and starting applying it to everything.
Until fairly recently all 17.3" laptops were stuck at 1080p because none of the panel makers had gotten around to making a higher res panel at that size because they sell so few of them compared to 13.3/15.6. When they finally did, they went directly to 4k because it was the current halo resolution and would thus have the longest potential time on market. I haven't seen a 1440p panel at that resolution yet, and suspect none exist. I wouldn't be surprised if none ever does, or if it does happen is only because we've got a mobile GPU than can do justice to 1440p/144, but only 60hz at 4k.
"thin and light" "world's thinnest" reads terrible cooling IMO that is something I absolutely abhor about "modern" phones, laptops and micro/small desktops, they all tend to suffer from terrible cooling and crud durability compared to the "old blocky" style ones.
like they are engineered to be as cheap as possible (for the maker) fail as soon as possible with the smallest amount of power available to them while causing the customer grief and extra finances to send it back to them or replace with some other model...........
Sounds like a great business model to me. Maybe we can remove all ports except for one as well so that if that one port goes out, BANG, new laptop. Of course, there are laptops available with plenty of ports and good cooling solutions, but they aren't exactly thin or light. As long as I can still get them, I don't mind having thinner and lighter laptops available for people who prioritize it. Phones is where I take issue. I can no longer find a phone to match my priorities as they've just about all gone full in on thin and light.
Looks like a Clevo PA70ES-G. Clevo normally focuses on cooling over form-factor, but this looks pretty thin so it will be really interesting to see how this performs when tested.
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CoreLogicCom - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
If this is aimed at gamers why don’t they offer a 2k panel to go with that 1070?Also 8GB of ram by default? Should be 16 these days. Of course you can add up to 32 but it seems they want to set price points that force upgrading charges to get something that should be that way from the beginning.
Still it looks like a nice laptop for a clevo rebrand.
Death666Angel - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
The "2k" nomenclature for displays always felt a bit weird to me. Even though it is slightly false, the general public has adopted 4k for the 3840x2160 resolution. As a result, 1920x1080 should be the 2k resolution, no? It only misses the mark by 4.2%. But many people seem to use 2k for 2560x1440, even though it is closer to 3k than 2k and mathematically rounds to 3k as well. Since you complain about them not offering a 2k solution, I assume you mean 1440p as well? :)StevoLincolnite - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
4k is Quad-Full High Definition. Or 4x 1080P. Aka. 3840x2160.2k should be Quad-High Definition. Or 4x 720P. Aka. 2560x1440.
fabarati - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
4K comes from the cinema world and refers to how many horizontal pixels there are. DCI 4k is 4096x2160. UHD or 2160p is a 4K resolution.DCI 2K is 2048x1080. Full HD or 1080p is very close to 2K.
2560x1440 is and should remain "2.5K"
MamiyaOtaru - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
there is absolutely no justification for calling 2560x1440 "2k". it's 1440p or just 2560x1440. You have to twist yourself into knots to come up with a reason it could possibly be called 2kFlunk - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
The rules for the -k terminology are pretty flexible. All it means is that the horizontal resolution is close to however many thousand pixels. If you want specifics it's best to ignore the -k metrics.Iketh - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
what the hell is a 2k display? what they're missing is a 1440p60 displayWardrop - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
2k and 4k are from cinema world, where the aspect ratio/vertical resolution is variable, so they use the width as the standard measure for resolution, e.g. 2k = 2048 pixels wide, 4k = 4096 pixels wide. Then marketeers got their hands on it and starting applying it to everything.DanNeely - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
Does that resolution exist in 17.3"?Until fairly recently all 17.3" laptops were stuck at 1080p because none of the panel makers had gotten around to making a higher res panel at that size because they sell so few of them compared to 13.3/15.6. When they finally did, they went directly to 4k because it was the current halo resolution and would thus have the longest potential time on market. I haven't seen a 1440p panel at that resolution yet, and suspect none exist. I wouldn't be surprised if none ever does, or if it does happen is only because we've got a mobile GPU than can do justice to 1440p/144, but only 60hz at 4k.
damianrobertjones - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
No way! 64Gb should be the default. That way Windows can pre-cache absolutely EVERYTHING as soon as you're on the desktop.Dragonstongue - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
"thin and light" "world's thinnest" reads terrible cooling IMOthat is something I absolutely abhor about "modern" phones, laptops and micro/small desktops, they all tend to suffer from terrible cooling and crud durability compared to the "old blocky" style ones.
like they are engineered to be as cheap as possible (for the maker) fail as soon as possible with the smallest amount of power available to them while causing the customer grief and extra finances to send it back to them or replace with some other model...........
oh wait a second!
BurntMyBacon - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
Sounds like a great business model to me. Maybe we can remove all ports except for one as well so that if that one port goes out, BANG, new laptop. Of course, there are laptops available with plenty of ports and good cooling solutions, but they aren't exactly thin or light. As long as I can still get them, I don't mind having thinner and lighter laptops available for people who prioritize it. Phones is where I take issue. I can no longer find a phone to match my priorities as they've just about all gone full in on thin and light.Flunk - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
Looks like a Clevo PA70ES-G. Clevo normally focuses on cooling over form-factor, but this looks pretty thin so it will be really interesting to see how this performs when tested.bennyg - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
Looks like PA71 based model.It'll either run burning hot, like the Schenker version of this, or power throttle horribly like the Eurocom Q8.
Thin, cool, high performance; you can only pick two.