This would be an interesting test - with TB3 going at 40Gbs and NVME going around 32GB ( I believe ) it should be interesting - but it likely depend on anything else on TB3 connection.
Is there any actual speed benefit when using a TB3 port, compared to USB 3.0? An interesting use speed comparison would be: used as a bootable external SSD running "Windows to Go". There exists free software that allow creation of such a bootable "Windows to Go" device. "Aomei Partition Assistant" or "Rufus" are two examples that I'm aware of.
In theory, yes. USB 3.0's max throughput is roughly 625MB/s (5Gbps / 8). Thunderbolt 3 is 5GB/s (40Gbps / 8). You'll never see close to those values due to overhead, etc.
TB3 also can be use for external graphics card - which are same as ones used on desktop - but I believe are limited to only PCI e 3.0 x4 but using a full x16 card.
TB3 also can be daisy chain. Great for docks.
The primary issue with TB3 devices now is that they are not backwards compatible with USB-C ports - until there is chipset to support backwards compatible - you can only use them on TB3 ports. I believe Intel ( maybe others ) are working on chipset that is backwards compatible. Note this does not mean you can't hook up a USB-C device to TB3 port.
Is it just me or would it have been nice to see even just one USB-C SSD (like the mentioned Samsung T5) in these graphs for comparison? I mean I know the Thunderbolt ones are all much faster (and I pulled up the T5 review, so the Samsung would have been in last or second to last in all tests) but the point of reference would have been helpful I think.
Why use the Alpine and not the Titan Ridge controller? This really limits the usage of this drive. I have an Akitio thunder3 that has an Alpine Ridge controller and I cannot plug it into a USB-C (non TB) port because it cannot fall back to USB without a Thunderbolt 3 host. At these prices they could at least use the more recent controller.
Edit: Not sure that the Titan Ridge would solve that problem for this drive since it still does not bridge NVMe to USB. Would need one of the new controllers by ASMedia or JMicron (ASM2362 or JMS583).
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jrs77 - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
And it'll only cost as much as a 4 GB NAS :pjrs77 - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
That was ment to be 4GB in RAID 1. So 4+4GB ofc.DigitalFreak - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
I'm assuming you meant 4TB...smilingcrow - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
Which is an entirely different class of storage device so a pointless comparison.DigitalFreak - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
Would have been interesting to see the ssd tested in an nvme slot on the motherboard to see if tb3 incurs a penalty.HStewart - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
This would be an interesting test - with TB3 going at 40Gbs and NVME going around 32GB ( I believe ) it should be interesting - but it likely depend on anything else on TB3 connection.vailr - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
Is there any actual speed benefit when using a TB3 port, compared to USB 3.0? An interesting use speed comparison would be: used as a bootable external SSD running "Windows to Go". There exists free software that allow creation of such a bootable "Windows to Go" device. "Aomei Partition Assistant" or "Rufus" are two examples that I'm aware of.DigitalFreak - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
In theory, yes. USB 3.0's max throughput is roughly 625MB/s (5Gbps / 8). Thunderbolt 3 is 5GB/s (40Gbps / 8). You'll never see close to those values due to overhead, etc.akvadrako - Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - link
Why compare to 3.0? The Samsung T5 uses USB 3.1 Gen 2 which is 10Gbps.HStewart - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
TB3 also can be use for external graphics card - which are same as ones used on desktop - but I believe are limited to only PCI e 3.0 x4 but using a full x16 card.TB3 also can be daisy chain. Great for docks.
The primary issue with TB3 devices now is that they are not backwards compatible with USB-C ports - until there is chipset to support backwards compatible - you can only use them on TB3 ports. I believe Intel ( maybe others ) are working on chipset that is backwards compatible. Note this does not mean you can't hook up a USB-C device to TB3 port.
jkgumbo - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
I guess I have a dirty mind but the packaging is so......sexual!Doc Rob - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
I think that is what they planned.. the shape so like a .....jhoff80 - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
Is it just me or would it have been nice to see even just one USB-C SSD (like the mentioned Samsung T5) in these graphs for comparison? I mean I know the Thunderbolt ones are all much faster (and I pulled up the T5 review, so the Samsung would have been in last or second to last in all tests) but the point of reference would have been helpful I think.HStewart - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
Yes that would be interesting but it probably would be embarrassingfrom what I can tell TB3 is about 2 to 3 times faster than USB-c drive but I not sure on the following sites measurement.
https://us.hardware.info/reviews/7544/5/samsung-t5...
FYI - Sandisk Extreme looks the faster - so also should compare same SSD's
atragorn - Monday, July 23, 2018 - link
When will TB3 be available on other non Intel Platforms ?KxShell - Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - link
Why use the Alpine and not the Titan Ridge controller? This really limits the usage of this drive. I have an Akitio thunder3 that has an Alpine Ridge controller and I cannot plug it into a USB-C (non TB) port because it cannot fall back to USB without a Thunderbolt 3 host. At these prices they could at least use the more recent controller.KxShell - Wednesday, July 25, 2018 - link
Edit: Not sure that the Titan Ridge would solve that problem for this drive since it still does not bridge NVMe to USB. Would need one of the new controllers by ASMedia or JMicron (ASM2362 or JMS583).Dientucamerasieunho - Wednesday, August 1, 2018 - link
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