These are hardly what "the customers have asked for".
We, your customers, are asking for you to stop skimping on components to save cents for your profit margins - dump that sleeve bearing fan and replace it with longer lasting bearing design; make the PSU semi-modular; fix the fan profile and passive air flow so that the fan doesn't come online until a certain threshold is reached - given that most non-gaming computers (which these PSUs are aimed at) consume about 30 Watts idle and less than 100 watts under full load the PSU should be able to dissipate those 5-20W passively. Yes, your PSU will cost two dollars more but it will no longer compete with cheap-a$$ crap from LC Power, justifying the price tag.
To be honest sleeve bearing fans have come a long way. So the reliability of the fan shouldn't really be the argument that kills the purchase in this case. Especially with a 5 year warranty.
But the Bronze rating and the non-modular design might disqualify it from the shopping list of many people, especially the ones looking at the higher wattage models.
A lot of accessories mounted in the 3.5" bay (card readers, fan controllers, audio panels, etc.) are powered with that connector. Still cute in 2018 :).
We're well past the point where it should be on anyone selling a 5-10yo design addon to be the one including the legacy adapter though.
And if you shop around there's a reasonable chance you can find something with a modern power connection. eg the fan controller I bought 3 years ago has a SATA connector instead of a molex/berg one because I didn't want to need to connect the molex power string for a single device.
I think EVGA just tries a cheap way of looking like it differentiates itself from others. I haven't seen any of these modules needing molex in years. But they exist and I can't discount the people who are still using them and other legacy hardware that may need such power connectors.
Still I wouldn't base any PSU purchase on the fact that it includes a 10c adapter.
Yes a modular (better than bronze) rated power supply at around 350w (SFX pref) would be ideal. Not sure there is really much point in having both a 450w and 500w model? a lot of people will cheap out and go for the 450w model? Flat cables would be better too imo.
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vincentyu1130 - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
30C means 30 degree Celcius temperature?jabbadap - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Yeah, that's correct should say 30°C. It's annoying when they are unable to use proper markings on those, but then again they are Ameeericans.close - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
30C is indeed degrees Celsius. But where it says "Improvements on the 3.3C", the C actually stands for Volts. (minor typo)Arnulf - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
These are hardly what "the customers have asked for".We, your customers, are asking for you to stop skimping on components to save cents for your profit margins - dump that sleeve bearing fan and replace it with longer lasting bearing design; make the PSU semi-modular; fix the fan profile and passive air flow so that the fan doesn't come online until a certain threshold is reached - given that most non-gaming computers (which these PSUs are aimed at) consume about 30 Watts idle and less than 100 watts under full load the PSU should be able to dissipate those 5-20W passively. Yes, your PSU will cost two dollars more but it will no longer compete with cheap-a$$ crap from LC Power, justifying the price tag.
benedict - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
How did you come to the conclusion that this isn't made for gaming computers?DanNeely - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
It doesn't have $20 of frag harder lights smeared all over it, can't be a gaming product in 2018. 🤮🤮🤮Oxford Guy - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
A horizontally mounted always-on sleeve bearing fan sounds like a recipe for trouble.Also, bronze power supplies may have been cool a decade ago.
close - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
To be honest sleeve bearing fans have come a long way. So the reliability of the fan shouldn't really be the argument that kills the purchase in this case. Especially with a 5 year warranty.But the Bronze rating and the non-modular design might disqualify it from the shopping list of many people, especially the ones looking at the higher wattage models.
buxe2quec - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Cute, an adapter for floppy drives.Spunjji - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Those connectors are still used for a surprising number of esoteric little add-ons. Not needed often, and yet not as useless as they sound.close - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
A lot of accessories mounted in the 3.5" bay (card readers, fan controllers, audio panels, etc.) are powered with that connector. Still cute in 2018 :).DanNeely - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
We're well past the point where it should be on anyone selling a 5-10yo design addon to be the one including the legacy adapter though.And if you shop around there's a reasonable chance you can find something with a modern power connection. eg the fan controller I bought 3 years ago has a SATA connector instead of a molex/berg one because I didn't want to need to connect the molex power string for a single device.
close - Wednesday, July 4, 2018 - link
I think EVGA just tries a cheap way of looking like it differentiates itself from others. I haven't seen any of these modules needing molex in years. But they exist and I can't discount the people who are still using them and other legacy hardware that may need such power connectors.Still I wouldn't base any PSU purchase on the fact that it includes a 10c adapter.
Lolimaster - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
I tell you fast, one the best brozen PSU's ever is the Seasonic S12 II 420-520w line.10% and <10% load efficiency above most platinum rated PSU's, extremely quiet.
Lolimaster - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
I would love titanium PSU's in the range of 350-500w, no one is using multigpu now and even an OCed system + gpu barely goes above 350w.Lolimaster - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Fluid Dynamic Fan Bearing on the Seasonic as a plus.dromoxen - Wednesday, July 4, 2018 - link
Yes a modular (better than bronze) rated power supply at around 350w (SFX pref) would be ideal.Not sure there is really much point in having both a 450w and 500w model? a lot of people will cheap out and go for the 450w model? Flat cables would be better too imo.
Byte - Tuesday, July 3, 2018 - link
Thank god for this, with the BQ, BT, GQ, GS, G1, G1+, G2, G3, B1, B3, BW, W1, N, T2, P2, I was feeling EVGA has very limited choices.Lolimaster - Thursday, July 5, 2018 - link
Wait for the FTW line.silveryhat - Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - link
This https://www.custompcguide.net/evga-power-supply-un... you might need. It makes evga psu a lot more easier to understand once you know for certain who's the manufacturer behind each series.MadAd - Thursday, July 5, 2018 - link
odm?