You recommend this board as budget-friendly gaming option yet you only test it with a gtx980 and a ryzen 7, how about also throwing in numbers for that specific segment you are recommending, it wouldn't be bad ryzen 3 2200g and ryzen 5 2400g??
Because if the board works fine with those, it'll have no problems with the lesser complicated parts. Also the bench are made to evenly compare all the motherboards, so it's just logical that they are gonna reuse the same hardware for all the motherboards, high-end or not.
Yes. I was kind of surprised by the statement that "AMD has made it clear that the B350 chipset will be sticking around for a long time". Why would the motherboard manufacturers keep making B350's?
It's nice to have options. I have LCD from 2001 with VGA and DVI-D inputs (and the latter isn't working). Similarly, if you want to hook up a projector, especially an older one, it might only have VGA input.
People in this price category are more likely to have older gear. As example, I'm still using DVI because that's what my KVM accepts. The newer DisplayPort version of my KVM costs $370. Until I upgrade to a 4K monitor, there isn't much point in making the switch.
Seems like it would be ideal if they could replace DVI-D with DVI-I and add DP to allow 4K @ 60Hz, but maybe this wasn't designed with Raven Ridge in mind.
I seems as though every AMD motherboard you review has 6+2 or less phases, whereas the filled in sections of your Intel Z390 MB list indicates 8+2 and often 10+2 or 12+2 or more phases. Why is this? Do AMD processors really require less power? Or are the MB manufacturers unfairly cheapening the AMD MBs on purpose?
Z390 is the high end Intel chipset, of course the boards for it are high end. These B350/B450 boards should be compared to B360 boards, and they are not so different. X370/X470 mobos are what you want to compare with Z390 and they usually have plenty of power phases. The last one reviewed on Anandtech had 16.
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Wingartz - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
You recommend this board as budget-friendly gaming option yet you only test it with a gtx980 and a ryzen 7, how about also throwing in numbers for that specific segment you are recommending, it wouldn't be bad ryzen 3 2200g and ryzen 5 2400g??The Chill Blueberry - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
Because if the board works fine with those, it'll have no problems with the lesser complicated parts. Also the bench are made to evenly compare all the motherboards, so it's just logical that they are gonna reuse the same hardware for all the motherboards, high-end or not.Dug - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
I think we need to move on. B450 maybe?ASUS B450 AMD Ryzen 2 Micro ATX Gaming Motherboard is $60 right now.
Ratman6161 - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
Yes. I was kind of surprised by the statement that "AMD has made it clear that the B350 chipset will be sticking around for a long time". Why would the motherboard manufacturers keep making B350's?DPete27 - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
No kidding. B450 has been out since August 1.snowmyr - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
"The MSI B350M Gaming Pro aims to offer gamers a lot cost option"Typo in the first paragraph.
Ryan Smith - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
Thanks!dromoxen - Thursday, October 18, 2018 - link
unnececary ? Like a cassowari but not so deadly .. itx board with 2200g/2400g and ram at a very "budget" price would be great tv/game box £200 -ishHubb1e - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
VGA and DVI-D. What year is this?GreenReaper - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
It's nice to have options. I have LCD from 2001 with VGA and DVI-D inputs (and the latter isn't working). Similarly, if you want to hook up a projector, especially an older one, it might only have VGA input.Lazlo Panaflex - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
LOLHey Gavin, how about grabbing an MSI 450M Gaming Plus and doing a comparison?
PeachNCream - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
Monitors live much longer useful lives than the computers connected to them.Lucky Stripes 99 - Sunday, October 14, 2018 - link
People in this price category are more likely to have older gear. As example, I'm still using DVI because that's what my KVM accepts. The newer DisplayPort version of my KVM costs $370. Until I upgrade to a 4K monitor, there isn't much point in making the switch.Eletriarnation - Monday, October 15, 2018 - link
Seems like it would be ideal if they could replace DVI-D with DVI-I and add DP to allow 4K @ 60Hz, but maybe this wasn't designed with Raven Ridge in mind.ballsystemlord - Friday, October 12, 2018 - link
I seems as though every AMD motherboard you review has 6+2 or less phases, whereas the filled in sections of your Intel Z390 MB list indicates 8+2 and often 10+2 or 12+2 or more phases. Why is this?Do AMD processors really require less power? Or are the MB manufacturers unfairly cheapening the AMD MBs on purpose?
notashill - Saturday, October 13, 2018 - link
Z390 is the high end Intel chipset, of course the boards for it are high end. These B350/B450 boards should be compared to B360 boards, and they are not so different. X370/X470 mobos are what you want to compare with Z390 and they usually have plenty of power phases. The last one reviewed on Anandtech had 16.ballsystemlord - Sunday, October 14, 2018 - link
Ah, yes. I'm just not up on which Intel chipset is which "end". Thanks!AlB80 - Saturday, October 13, 2018 - link
3 phase of fossil mosfets. Don't touch this.