I really don’t know why more vendors don’t just rip off the style of the “titan” vapor chamber coolers...they are beautiful and functional and it wouldn’t be hard to just make that style of a aerial cooler instead of a blower...
there's no way anybody would consider this for a custom loop. why would u want fans on a full cover block (that is if it is indeed a full cover but for 1.4K I sure hope it is). Thankfully you can get a $120 cover block and a $700 reference card for much less than this.
Or better yet (esp if you have a white build) get a water block and a Galax/KFA2 gtx 1080ti HOF ( if you can find one) and enjoy the outstanding (actually overkill) VRMs on the card
Seriously, Ket_MANIAC? The design's objectively a mess. Too many spurious elements and weird touches like the sawtooth pattern on the actual fan blades. Not only does it look crowded, it's a functional impediment.
"...will make the chip a collectable item a decade from now" - can that claim truly be substantiated, especially given the flaws it has with regards to speculative execution? How many chips from a decade ago are collectible today?
It's more likely that Intel wants to give people an extra reason to buy what they have now at an inflated price, rather than let it go to waste once it becomes obsolete - which will be very soon.
Oh man... there are a few chips I would consider 'collectible' The old VooDoo cards, maybe the 8800/9800 GTX, a few specialty cards like the Matrox RT series. But ya... the idea of anything this generation being collectible... nothing stands out as being particularly 'special'. Better than last gen, worse than next gen, but not exactly the 'first' at much
It's not collectible by itself, but couple it in a set with an Intel 8086 from 78 and an 8077 coprocessor + spec sheets and you'll net a few grand on the 50th anniversary of the 8086
"Collectible" is synonymous with "rare". That's it. Performance or looks aren't important if everybody's got one. But when only 50K CPUs are made and they are a "one of a kind Anniversary Edition" then you can call the collectible even if the performance is disappointing, they suffer from bugs, they are expensive, etc.
Some of the best collectibles are items that are uniquely flawed.
There are plenty of rare things nobody wants, because they were bad or have outlived their usefulness.
I honestly don't see how an i7-8086K can ever be an object of exceptional desire, when it's a chip that's identical to tens or hundreds of millions. That's just stupid.
At least this thing has a fancy box, accessories, and a unique shroud. Not that I'm saying it's worth it, but at least they went to some trouble to make it "feel" special, and the box will look nice on your shelf.
Well they're worth a lot to anybody collecting that particular type of thing. Plenty of things bankrupted the company making them due to being such failures in every regard, and now fetch huge prices to go into one collection or another.
And a good example are Engineering Samples, especially ones that display weird "preproduction" models, not just the ES moniker. They usually command a small premium over the regular model and not because they're faster or better, or because that particular model is still in demand.
BTW, I'm not saying "go ahead and buy the 8086K". It's definitely not worth it regardless of box, stuff in the box, etc. But given the low numbers and the less than ordinary branding it will most likely be a collector item in some years.
What I'm saying is that in a decade or 5 this CPU will be worth slightly more than the millions of 8700Ks.
8086s sell on eBay for under 10 bucks. I don't see how bundling them with a relabelled 7700K would shoot their value up like this. The 8086K has no historical value, there's no reason a small museum or a private collector should put them on display.
8086 are still collectible just not worth very much :). But if you want a collection you don't want to skip on that particular CPU. It made history.
Imagine collecting smartphones and not having the original iPhone in there.
This being said rarity might not make this GPU worth too much any time in the future. Unless you're building the ultimate GPU collection (which might make this worth a fortune) people just won't care (or know) that it's rare. And the 8086K might be worth it to a collector or museum once the price goes down.
I did keep my voodoo2 and my Dell 64MB GeForce which had double the ram of any other card available. Collectible in the sense of oh neat nostalgia not collectible in the sense of planning my retirement around them
I’m not sure if they’ll be collectible, but if they are the speculative exec issue would have no bearing on it. A collectible would never see a motherboard.
ALL of these aftermarket cards have a maximum voltage of 1.93 volts. You need a shunt mod to get around that hard limit.
My 1080ti, which happens to be an Aorus will max out at around 2 Ghz or slightly over at 1.093 volts are with the 3 fans maxed it rarely breaks 50c.
There is literally no need for water cooling or special "turbo/base clocks" on these cards as they will all boost to around 1.9 - 2.2 Ghz as long as you have the drivers installed and set the voltage curve to 1.093 volts properly. Most of these cards will do this for the user without any help anyway via the drivers.
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Gunbuster - Friday, June 15, 2018 - link
Performance over founders edition +13%, Price +100%, Ugliness increased +1000%Lord of the Bored - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
Seriously, the thing is hideous. It doesn't even have RGB!Ket_MANIAC - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
Either you are being sarcastic or you have poor taste. That card looks so beautiful and would be great in a hardline watercooled build.Peter2k - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
Then why not go with the Poseidon.Its black neutral, RGB can be switched off, isn't limited and cheaper.
Diji1 - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
Oh right, I forgot you were the arbiter of good taste.ianmills - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
The design has a dollar store clone toy lookSamus - Sunday, June 17, 2018 - link
I really don’t know why more vendors don’t just rip off the style of the “titan” vapor chamber coolers...they are beautiful and functional and it wouldn’t be hard to just make that style of a aerial cooler instead of a blower...Hxx - Sunday, June 17, 2018 - link
there's no way anybody would consider this for a custom loop. why would u want fans on a full cover block (that is if it is indeed a full cover but for 1.4K I sure hope it is). Thankfully you can get a $120 cover block and a $700 reference card for much less than this.SIG-512 - Sunday, June 17, 2018 - link
Or better yet (esp if you have a white build) get a water block and a Galax/KFA2 gtx 1080ti HOF ( if you can find one) and enjoy the outstanding (actually overkill) VRMs on the cardSpunjji - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
Seriously, Ket_MANIAC? The design's objectively a mess. Too many spurious elements and weird touches like the sawtooth pattern on the actual fan blades. Not only does it look crowded, it's a functional impediment.Spunjji - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
I just zoomed into the photo and noticed the fake gears between the fans, too. I rest my case.jordanclock - Friday, June 15, 2018 - link
And I bet the miners already picked them up.GreenReaper - Friday, June 15, 2018 - link
"...will make the chip a collectable item a decade from now" - can that claim truly be substantiated, especially given the flaws it has with regards to speculative execution? How many chips from a decade ago are collectible today?It's more likely that Intel wants to give people an extra reason to buy what they have now at an inflated price, rather than let it go to waste once it becomes obsolete - which will be very soon.
CaedenV - Friday, June 15, 2018 - link
Oh man... there are a few chips I would consider 'collectible'The old VooDoo cards, maybe the 8800/9800 GTX, a few specialty cards like the Matrox RT series.
But ya... the idea of anything this generation being collectible... nothing stands out as being particularly 'special'. Better than last gen, worse than next gen, but not exactly the 'first' at much
AsParallel - Friday, June 15, 2018 - link
It's not collectible by itself, but couple it in a set with an Intel 8086 from 78 and an 8077 coprocessor + spec sheets and you'll net a few grand on the 50th anniversary of the 8086Lord of the Bored - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
What if I've got an 8088 from AMD soldered into a board?close - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
"Collectible" is synonymous with "rare". That's it. Performance or looks aren't important if everybody's got one. But when only 50K CPUs are made and they are a "one of a kind Anniversary Edition" then you can call the collectible even if the performance is disappointing, they suffer from bugs, they are expensive, etc.Some of the best collectibles are items that are uniquely flawed.
mode_13h - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
There are plenty of rare things nobody wants, because they were bad or have outlived their usefulness.I honestly don't see how an i7-8086K can ever be an object of exceptional desire, when it's a chip that's identical to tens or hundreds of millions. That's just stupid.
At least this thing has a fancy box, accessories, and a unique shroud. Not that I'm saying it's worth it, but at least they went to some trouble to make it "feel" special, and the box will look nice on your shelf.
close - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
Well they're worth a lot to anybody collecting that particular type of thing. Plenty of things bankrupted the company making them due to being such failures in every regard, and now fetch huge prices to go into one collection or another.And a good example are Engineering Samples, especially ones that display weird "preproduction" models, not just the ES moniker. They usually command a small premium over the regular model and not because they're faster or better, or because that particular model is still in demand.
close - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
BTW, I'm not saying "go ahead and buy the 8086K". It's definitely not worth it regardless of box, stuff in the box, etc. But given the low numbers and the less than ordinary branding it will most likely be a collector item in some years.What I'm saying is that in a decade or 5 this CPU will be worth slightly more than the millions of 8700Ks.
tim851 - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
8086s sell on eBay for under 10 bucks. I don't see how bundling them with a relabelled 7700K would shoot their value up like this. The 8086K has no historical value, there's no reason a small museum or a private collector should put them on display.close - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
8086 are still collectible just not worth very much :). But if you want a collection you don't want to skip on that particular CPU. It made history.Imagine collecting smartphones and not having the original iPhone in there.
This being said rarity might not make this GPU worth too much any time in the future. Unless you're building the ultimate GPU collection (which might make this worth a fortune) people just won't care (or know) that it's rare. And the 8086K might be worth it to a collector or museum once the price goes down.
Icehawk - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
I did keep my voodoo2 and my Dell 64MB GeForce which had double the ram of any other card available. Collectible in the sense of oh neat nostalgia not collectible in the sense of planning my retirement around themsor - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
I’m not sure if they’ll be collectible, but if they are the speculative exec issue would have no bearing on it. A collectible would never see a motherboard.Sttm - Friday, June 15, 2018 - link
If you want to throw away your money I guess you could do worse. Ill just wait until Next Gen.Rygar1976 - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
I am not sure why this matters... like at all?ALL of these aftermarket cards have a maximum voltage of 1.93 volts. You need a shunt mod to get around that hard limit.
My 1080ti, which happens to be an Aorus will max out at around 2 Ghz or slightly over at 1.093 volts are with the 3 fans maxed it rarely breaks 50c.
There is literally no need for water cooling or special "turbo/base clocks" on these cards as they will all boost to around 1.9 - 2.2 Ghz as long as you have the drivers installed and set the voltage curve to 1.093 volts properly. Most of these cards will do this for the user without any help anyway via the drivers.
Diji1 - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
"it rarely breaks 50c"Why don't you come back and comment after used a GTX 1080 Ti to power more than the Windows desktop though?
Opencg - Saturday, June 16, 2018 - link
The only thing people who buy this card are black belt in are video games.mode_13h - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
And most of them probably can't even claim that.Koenig168 - Sunday, June 17, 2018 - link
Just because it is overpriced and limited does not make it a collectible. How many people you know has a GPU collection as a hobby?mode_13h - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link
Probably more out there than you or I would like to believe.