Any business big enough to be bulk-buying computer components already has an OEM like Dell supplying their hardware... and guess what, OEMs don't use mass-market parts like Corsair, they use OEM drives that they buy at OEM discounts.
Well I do.. at least 240 and above. 120 is a bit on the low side for the "enthusiast product" that is NVMe. But as an add-in for a portable it makes sense.
might be "antiquated" but at least a standard sata based SSD is VERY unlikely to suffer throttle issues because of where the drive has to sit and/or per gb are lower cost
not to mention most users absolutely do not/can not take advantage of a "proper" m.2 drive potential speed, why pay the extra cost for nothing? (stupid marketing)
also, 9/10 a sata based SSD are pretty much plug and play, m.2/u.2 or whatever are not always as plug and play as they should be, and are not guaranteed to be able to be used as a boot drive (fresh copy of windows) whereas Sata based very rarely this causes a problem.
that being said, pricing for 120-240gb are actually pretty decent the 480gb is "ok" I suppose, the 960gb might be asking a bit much when other makers such as Crucial or Samsung that also offer m.2 drives at higher performance tend to also be lower cost.
IMO they should be trying to keep "even numbers" with a listed GB size available "after format" even if it means they have to add 1 more "chip" to give a higher available drive size...always hated when buy say a 500gb drive and you format it and end up with like 465gb instead AND you still should set some aside for provisioning (be real swell if SSD makers take the desirable amount such as 500gb, add an extra 10% so user is more or less able to load up the drive 100% (as some do)
is like buying a fuel tank that says "can hold 50 gallons" and reality is because of the pump and hoses you can actually only fill it to 45 gallons at best.
Also, while a 5 year warranty is listed, is there any endurance factor to this (such as 280TBW) because if it is 5 year warranty PERIOD that is awesome, but I highly doubt such is the case ^.^
Please learn the difference between GB and GiB (and related orders of magnitude) and how Windows uses them. The rest of your post is basically a non-issue. There are more than 100 AM4 motherboards with M.2 PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 slots and over 380 Intel Socket 1151 ones with the same specs. I've just added an NVME module into my H87 chipset BIOS which took me a whole 10 minutes and I can now boot off a NVME in a PCIe adapter connected via gen 2.0 x4 slot. The whole "not plug and play" gets massively overrepresented by people not reading their manuals or the product description when they upgrade. Same thing happens between DDR generational jumps and the switch from AGP/PCI to PCIe and the switch from IDE to SATA. If you don't need the speed and can save some money, great. But you make it seem like it is a bad thing for people to have the option to get a speedier drive? And throttling can be counter acted if it really happens (unless in a tight laptop space). And if it does happen, it is still speedier than any SATA based drive. I've not seen any endurance rating on the Corsair website and prices are a bit high, but they are MSRP and likely to fall. More choice is always good.
"120GB model, ... for ... $50. At that price, it's hard not to consider the MP300 for a secondary drive used to ease the load on your primary storage by keeping cold data like movies, music, and even games on the MP300."
What the Joe?! 50$ to store a couple of movies, which will see exactly zero benefit from NVME? for less than this money you can get a 2 TB 2.5" or 1 TB 2.5" HDD, which is sufficient for cold storage. Or a 320 GB 2.5" HDD for 18€.
And if you insist on SSD cold storage, simply get the cheapest ones, i.e. 240 GB for the same price or 120 GB for half the price.
I could see the point of using a MP300 for games, though, as contrary to movies & music they can benefit from the speed.
Indeed, music and videos should always be stored on large, cheap storage, even if that storage is slow, because loading a 5MB MP3 every 4 minutes is not going to require much in the way of speed or IOPS.
However the 240GB one of these could be a nice boot drive and active game device, should you not already have an SSD.
This looks perfect for my next firewall. I hate trying to fit 2.5" SATA drives into the very small case. And good luck finding a decent SATA drive for only $50.
I dont think its possible for drives makers to just stick an extra few Gb's on their devices due to the way they are addressed and chipped out, e.g. adding a ninth chip when something is addressed over four channels. The only way would be if the chips themselves had extra capacity eg like the mx300 drives came in slighlty odd sizes due to their 384Gb chips , powers of two. Once again , we are dictated to by the fascism of the Binary system.
The site owner please review the 480GB Corsair SSD M.2 MP300 SSD. I would appreciate it. I am especially curious about the power management part, latencies etc. Thanks!
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Amandtec - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
If talking PC form factor it is still a big premium over a SATA drive if we are talking a secondary drive.The_Assimilator - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
Nobody cares about low-capacity NVMe drives, Corsair.damianrobertjones - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
You don't speak for everyone. A business looking to buy a load of these drives will.The_Assimilator - Friday, June 8, 2018 - link
Any business big enough to be bulk-buying computer components already has an OEM like Dell supplying their hardware... and guess what, OEMs don't use mass-market parts like Corsair, they use OEM drives that they buy at OEM discounts.The Chill Blueberry - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
Well I do.. at least 240 and above. 120 is a bit on the low side for the "enthusiast product" that is NVMe. But as an add-in for a portable it makes sense.StevoLincolnite - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
It's certainly more usable than the antiquated 32GB drives in some Notebooks...damianrobertjones - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
Be warned! Now that there's an 'entry level' M.2. it allows the oems to raise the price of the faster drives when no-one is looking.Dragonstongue - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
might be "antiquated" but at least a standard sata based SSD is VERY unlikely to suffer throttle issues because of where the drive has to sit and/or per gb are lower costnot to mention most users absolutely do not/can not take advantage of a "proper" m.2 drive potential speed, why pay the extra cost for nothing? (stupid marketing)
also, 9/10 a sata based SSD are pretty much plug and play, m.2/u.2 or whatever are not always as plug and play as they should be, and are not guaranteed to be able to be used as a boot drive (fresh copy of windows) whereas Sata based very rarely this causes a problem.
that being said, pricing for 120-240gb are actually pretty decent the 480gb is "ok" I suppose, the 960gb might be asking a bit much when other makers such as Crucial or Samsung that also offer m.2 drives at higher performance tend to also be lower cost.
IMO they should be trying to keep "even numbers" with a listed GB size available "after format" even if it means they have to add 1 more "chip" to give a higher available drive size...always hated when buy say a 500gb drive and you format it and end up with like 465gb instead AND you still should set some aside for provisioning (be real swell if SSD makers take the desirable amount such as 500gb, add an extra 10% so user is more or less able to load up the drive 100% (as some do)
is like buying a fuel tank that says "can hold 50 gallons" and reality is because of the pump and hoses you can actually only fill it to 45 gallons at best.
Also, while a 5 year warranty is listed, is there any endurance factor to this (such as 280TBW) because if it is 5 year warranty PERIOD that is awesome, but I highly doubt such is the case ^.^
Death666Angel - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
Please learn the difference between GB and GiB (and related orders of magnitude) and how Windows uses them. The rest of your post is basically a non-issue. There are more than 100 AM4 motherboards with M.2 PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 slots and over 380 Intel Socket 1151 ones with the same specs. I've just added an NVME module into my H87 chipset BIOS which took me a whole 10 minutes and I can now boot off a NVME in a PCIe adapter connected via gen 2.0 x4 slot. The whole "not plug and play" gets massively overrepresented by people not reading their manuals or the product description when they upgrade. Same thing happens between DDR generational jumps and the switch from AGP/PCI to PCIe and the switch from IDE to SATA. If you don't need the speed and can save some money, great. But you make it seem like it is a bad thing for people to have the option to get a speedier drive? And throttling can be counter acted if it really happens (unless in a tight laptop space). And if it does happen, it is still speedier than any SATA based drive.I've not seen any endurance rating on the Corsair website and prices are a bit high, but they are MSRP and likely to fall. More choice is always good.
Lord of the Bored - Friday, June 8, 2018 - link
"Please learn the difference between GB and GiB" Please don't use Wikipedia's made-up capacity units like they are a real thing.The_Assimilator - Friday, June 8, 2018 - link
You should tell the International Electrotechnical Commission that their units are made-up... and/or get some education.PeachNCream - Friday, June 8, 2018 - link
Those capacity measurement differences predate Wikipedia and have been a common cause of confusion in the computing industry for quite a few years.MrSpadge - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
"120GB model, ... for ... $50. At that price, it's hard not to consider the MP300 for a secondary drive used to ease the load on your primary storage by keeping cold data like movies, music, and even games on the MP300."What the Joe?! 50$ to store a couple of movies, which will see exactly zero benefit from NVME? for less than this money you can get a 2 TB 2.5" or 1 TB 2.5" HDD, which is sufficient for cold storage. Or a 320 GB 2.5" HDD for 18€.
And if you insist on SSD cold storage, simply get the cheapest ones, i.e. 240 GB for the same price or 120 GB for half the price.
I could see the point of using a MP300 for games, though, as contrary to movies & music they can benefit from the speed.
psychobriggsy - Friday, June 8, 2018 - link
Indeed, music and videos should always be stored on large, cheap storage, even if that storage is slow, because loading a 5MB MP3 every 4 minutes is not going to require much in the way of speed or IOPS.However the 240GB one of these could be a nice boot drive and active game device, should you not already have an SSD.
bcronce - Friday, June 8, 2018 - link
This looks perfect for my next firewall. I hate trying to fit 2.5" SATA drives into the very small case. And good luck finding a decent SATA drive for only $50.dromoxen - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link
I dont think its possible for drives makers to just stick an extra few Gb's on their devices due to the way they are addressed and chipped out, e.g. adding a ninth chip when something is addressed over four channels. The only way would be if the chips themselves had extra capacity eg like the mx300 drives came in slighlty odd sizes due to their 384Gb chips , powers of two. Once again , we are dictated to by the fascism of the Binary system.dromoxen - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link
mp300 480gb @ £155 so now $149=£155 ... I'll wait ...andras1 - Monday, February 11, 2019 - link
The site owner please review the 480GB Corsair SSD M.2 MP300 SSD.I would appreciate it. I am especially curious about the power management part, latencies etc.
Thanks!