Without IBM, AMD's CPUs business which only exists because IBM insisted on a second source of CPUs would be zilch. It's all a matter of perspective. :)
Yes and Intel was supposed to not be monopolistic or use dirty tactics over and over to control the world pc market. But here we are! in an imperfect world.
Nope. Check your facts next time. About 9 months before the release of Ryzen, Intel said in press releases and Intel employees said in interviews that they are adding more cores to mainstream CPUs because they saw how popular more than 4 cores was in the HEDT 2001-V3 line.
About 9 months before Ryzen released, September 2017, we all learned about core counts of Ryzen. I suspect AMD had a lot to do with the 6 core mainstream Intel chips, a lot. I suspect Intel could have easily made these on the first gen 14nm chips years ago but didn't due to lack of competition. We can agree to disagree since its all conjecture but those facts you state don't exclude AMD as the cause of the choices.
"Not soldered" - what difference does it make? People have delidded, replaced the TIM and found they're not getting better overclocks. Hence, the default TIM does its job very well. "No meltdown hardware fix" - you have a microcode fix. What difference would a hardware fix make for you?
>People have delidded, replaced the TIM and found they're not getting better overclocks.
On what planet are you living on? 20C+ drops in temperatures allows for much quieter fans and lower operating temperature, leading to longer product life. Screw off with your fake news.
You know how to spot people with a vested interest? They're the ones shouting about fake news and creating straw men in order to justify their position...
More lies. 20c provides a huge safty margin and allows for a huge overclocking headroom on unlocked processors. The obvious reasons intel dont want this are 1) lack of competitive incentive intel is already at the top and 2) they want more money. hotter processors with less performance headroom due to heat and lack of builtin exploit fixes will undoubtably statistically require upgrades sooner.
Same thing from intel they can easily provide us with so much more yet they hold back. Lets hope amd can muster some real competition. Intel at the top is bad for everyone. At least nvidia still tries to push foreward while they are ahead. Intel happy anniversary 8 years of stagnation.
Wth are you talking about? These were delidded, had their TIM replaced, got a 20C temperature drop and maybe 100MHz more overclock. What "huge overclocking headroom"? And "huge safety margin" to do what?
I swear you people are like Pavlov's mutt: you see TIM, you cry rip-off.
Playing the devil's advocate: if the limiting factor is transfer across the TIM then you can set a less aggressive fan profile anyway since the problem is that the heatsink is too hot, but rather the heat not getting to the heatsink in the first place.
"Playing the devil's advocate: if the limiting factor is transfer across the TIM then you can set a less aggressive fan profile anyway since the problem is that the heatsink is too hot, but rather the heat not getting to the heatsink in the first place."
Bug77 because it IS a ripoff. Thermal paste has a lifespan and worse performance. Also younar so retarded that you are now arguing that 20c only gets 100mhz. Your mind is trash dude
How about you find some evidence for your claims rather than asserting someone is retarded and their "mind is trash"?
The heat isn't the only limit for the CPU frequency. Just because you might get a 20C drop doesn't mean that it's a guaranteed overclocking boost. I can't remember seeing much more than 100MHz boost across multiple people who've delidded their chips - in general it just reduced temps and meant you could get away with a smaller cooler.
There are downsides to solder which never get talked about, but oh no Intel uses TIM it must be because they're a cheap company who're devoted to screwing every last buck out of their consumers.
Intel warrant the processor to run at a certain speed within a certain temperature, and they pick their TIM to suit that. You want them to make special chips for overclockers, well then you need to be a big enough market to do that.
(or, alternatively, do what Intel do and make sure that it's possible to pop off the IHS so you can replace the TIM with something different if you want to. Do you really think Intel couldn't stop you from doing that if they thought it was necessary? It's sufficiently difficult that the casual user won't do it but not difficult enough that the enthusiast won't do it, which is exactly the level you'd want to set it at)
Lol good job youve heard of multiple people who got only 100mhz out of 20c drop. Starting off its common to get performance from heat drop alone when you are dropping out of the 85-100c range. Im sure you just arent aware of how throttling works on these systems. 100mhz would boost that into the 10% range. Also many get 300mhz overclocks and also get greater stability and real world performance like frame drops are better. I mean its whatever im glad you found some people that only got 100mhz. Its very clear from you that you got very mad and are not a very good overclocker. Probably just more people like you.
And why argue so adamantly for intel? Again thermal paste limits lifespan and creates issues like core differential from the factory. People have asked for something better and the only reason they havent gotten it is greed.
Less heat equals more voltage headroom -> better potential. Also you're gaining 100-300 Mhz and have lower temps. Means less noise. To top that off, higher temps means throttling kicks in, and many a people had increased stability in Prime and Asus RealBench after just delidding.
There are plenty of threads on overclock.net .
For a CPU being sold at a premium because its unlocked it should come with solder. HEDT should absolutely be soldered. More cores more heat.
I've lapped 4 7700K's (mine, wife, and 2 from friends), all had an uneven IHS. So not using solder did not do anything there either. Aside from a potentially warped IHS, what other drawbacks are there with solder? Higher cost? Prices haven't gone down. I hope I'm not gonna see how it gets micro fractures when you're going from -50°C to 90°C back and forth the whole time; read that too many times, not very likely scenario in anyone's use case.
Some people like to give AMD more credit than they deserved. I think Intel biggest thread in the long run is ARM - just because they attack them at Intel largest market - which is of course mobile products.
But it still nice to have AMD out to keep Intel on it feet and introducing new products.
Intel's problem over the last year is AMD and will continue to be in lots of spaces for the forseeable future. ARM is a future threat that Intel has been planning to fight for years. This is one of the reasons they've spent the last decade focused on mobile.
"ARM is a future threat that Intel has been planning to fight for years. This is one of the reasons they've spent the last decade focused on mobile."
ARM is the past threat which (with Samsung, Qualcomm and Huawei) completely pushed Intel out of the biggest markets for CPUs. But Intel retained the priciest.
>The Intel 8086 Sweepstakes is open only to legal residents of the 50 United States and the District of Columbia, Germany, France, Canada (excluding Quebec), the United Kingdom, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and China (excluding Hong Kong)
Sweet! Finally a sweepstakes that isn't exclusive to the usual US/Canada restriction. For once I'm actually eligible
Whiskey Lake - another Skylake revamp on 14nm. Presumably as the 9700K and pushing clocks a bit higher again.
If you are lucky in H2 2019 and Intel sort their 10nm, you will see Ice Lake. If Intel don't fix their 10nm (many industry commentators suggest this is a big risk) then I guess you'll be seeing another 14nm Lake in 2019.
Say what you will about the endless Lake rebadges, but am I the only one that is impressed with the 14nm process? Intel has gottan a ton of mileage out of it. Pushing performance an extra 300 MHz on the same power every year for the past several years has been a good imprpvement, and not one that necessarily comes for free with shrinking dies anymore, unless you're in the habit of making 2.5GHz chips. Globalfoundries might catch Intel with their 7nm process in absolute frequency.
I'd much rather Intel spit out a revised, performance focused process, than a low power density focused one. Granted in an ideal world they'd have been doing this on 10nm for years instead, but such is life.
It's not all that impressive. As years go by, the manufacturing gets better so the chips bin better. We've seen this before when TSMC failed to transition to 20nm and GPU makers were stuck improving their 28nm designs.
That said, Intel has competed based on their manufacturing lead for decades. It's nice to see them pushed onto more equal footing. But at the same time it's worrying to get a taste of what approaching the physical limits of silicon does to chip manufacturing.
I still disagree. Clock speeds dropped from 5GHz in the Sandy bridge days down to like 4.3GHz in the Broadwell era. Even Zen+ tops out around 4.3GHz, whereas coffee lake tops out easily at at least 5.1. That's a solid 15-20% difference. It certainly doesn't excuse the glacial advancement in IPC that the industry has had, but it's notable nonetheless.
Increasing density is great for GPUs, but it doesn't have nearly the effect on CPUs that it once did.
Thank the independence we have within the EU to impose different regulation from country to country. It makes smaller countries (and not only) that much less attractive.
What has size to do with anything?.. Germany and Denmark has the same legal stuff because of the EU. When they export that item to Germany it is to the EU they export it.. Not to Germany.
Not actually true - Denmark has slightly different competition law to Germany, and other EU states are different again (it's not a power which has been transferred to the EU)
Of course that competition law in this instance doesn't actually have a bearing on it because there's nothing in there which would prohibit the Danes from taking part so it's a decision on Intel's part. A crappy one if you ask me...
(but as a UK citizen it probably increases my chance of winning so... comme ci comme ca, as the French say...)
> The potential Winners will be notified by email and required to complete a prize fulfillment form. In order to be eligible to win any prize, potential winners who are Canadian residents must correctly answer, unaided, a time-limited mathematical skill-testing question as posed by Sponsor.
Is this a normal thing for Canadians to be quizzed when they win something?
It'll be intended to turn it into a skill-based contest and not a pure sweepstakes. It's likely to be simple enough to be a legal fiction (although being asked to multiply 80 by 86 might catch a few people out).
It is because of the provincial laws. Quebec is regulating anything related to contests with Loto-Quebec, basically if you don't make a request, you cannot provide the contest in the province. Kind of stupid, the law should be amended.
The TDP is the average power when the chip is heated to the highest allowed temperature, running at base frequency on all cores doing highly complex but non-viral workloads. The recommended heat sink is higher power rated to allow the chip to run at turbo frequencies or overclock even higher in most circumstances. The 130W thermal solution specification is the same with the 8700K, 8600K, and 8350K overclockable Coffee Lake chips.
5GHz turbo of ONE core? Possible all-core turbo of 4.6GHz? Nah. not really impressed. My 6700K runs all core, all the time at 4.6GHz on air without a hitch and I'm never maxing it out even while encoding. For me, there is no practical reason to get one. Ryzen 8c/16t is still much more appealing. If I win one from the sweepstakes, I'll probably ebay it once they are no longer available, as many others would. I'd have to buy a new motherboard for it. A free one would actually cost me money.
Yes. This product is really underwhelming, considering the mantle of fame it's trying to market itself with.
The 8086 wasn't that great a chip when it debuted but since it started the x86 odyssey, one would think Intel could manage to make something actually exciting. It's also the 50th anniversary.
We’ve updated our terms. By continuing to use the site and/or by logging into your account, you agree to the Site’s updated Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.
Facebook
Twitter
RSS
69 Comments
Back to Article
Memo.Ray - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Good Stuff! Glad to see Intel pushing out of their comfort zone. Thank you AMD!Luckz - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
You what mateHow is this outside anyone's comfort zone? Still not soldered. No meltdown hardware fix. Nothing. Just a rebadged CPU from last year.
close - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Without AMD it would have been a 4-core part for the same money.sonny73n - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
With or without AMD, what Luckz said is still true.smilingcrow - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Without IBM, AMD's CPUs business which only exists because IBM insisted on a second source of CPUs would be zilch.It's all a matter of perspective. :)
HStewart - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Yes that is true - oddly the one that started it all is not 8086 but the 8088 in the IBM PCI have original IBM PC in my closet downstairs
tamalero - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Yes and Intel was supposed to not be monopolistic or use dirty tactics over and over to control the world pc market. But here we are! in an imperfect world.Bavor - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Nope. Check your facts next time. About 9 months before the release of Ryzen, Intel said in press releases and Intel employees said in interviews that they are adding more cores to mainstream CPUs because they saw how popular more than 4 cores was in the HEDT 2001-V3 line.FreckledTrout - Wednesday, June 6, 2018 - link
About 9 months before Ryzen released, September 2017, we all learned about core counts of Ryzen. I suspect AMD had a lot to do with the 6 core mainstream Intel chips, a lot. I suspect Intel could have easily made these on the first gen 14nm chips years ago but didn't due to lack of competition. We can agree to disagree since its all conjecture but those facts you state don't exclude AMD as the cause of the choices.bug77 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
"Not soldered" - what difference does it make? People have delidded, replaced the TIM and found they're not getting better overclocks. Hence, the default TIM does its job very well."No meltdown hardware fix" - you have a microcode fix. What difference would a hardware fix make for you?
JoeyJoJo123 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
>People have delidded, replaced the TIM and found they're not getting better overclocks.On what planet are you living on? 20C+ drops in temperatures allows for much quieter fans and lower operating temperature, leading to longer product life. Screw off with your fake news.
mkaibear - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
You know how to spot people with a vested interest? They're the ones shouting about fake news and creating straw men in order to justify their position...bug77 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
20C drop from a temp within specified limits is akin to doing 40 in the 60 lane. It's a bit safer, but the default was already safe to begin with.Opencg - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
More lies. 20c provides a huge safty margin and allows for a huge overclocking headroom on unlocked processors. The obvious reasons intel dont want this are 1) lack of competitive incentive intel is already at the top and 2) they want more money. hotter processors with less performance headroom due to heat and lack of builtin exploit fixes will undoubtably statistically require upgrades sooner.Same thing from intel they can easily provide us with so much more yet they hold back. Lets hope amd can muster some real competition. Intel at the top is bad for everyone. At least nvidia still tries to push foreward while they are ahead. Intel happy anniversary 8 years of stagnation.
bug77 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Wth are you talking about? These were delidded, had their TIM replaced, got a 20C temperature drop and maybe 100MHz more overclock. What "huge overclocking headroom"? And "huge safety margin" to do what?I swear you people are like Pavlov's mutt: you see TIM, you cry rip-off.
Jedi2155 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Lower fan speed is a key factor if one wanted high performance without an insanely loud cooling system.Nagorak - Wednesday, June 6, 2018 - link
Playing the devil's advocate: if the limiting factor is transfer across the TIM then you can set a less aggressive fan profile anyway since the problem is that the heatsink is too hot, but rather the heat not getting to the heatsink in the first place.Nagorak - Wednesday, June 6, 2018 - link
*problem is Not that the heatsink is too hot...peevee - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
"Playing the devil's advocate: if the limiting factor is transfer across the TIM then you can set a less aggressive fan profile anyway since the problem is that the heatsink is too hot, but rather the heat not getting to the heatsink in the first place."Nope. Think again.
Opencg - Wednesday, June 6, 2018 - link
Bug77 because it IS a ripoff. Thermal paste has a lifespan and worse performance. Also younar so retarded that you are now arguing that 20c only gets 100mhz. Your mind is trash dudemkaibear - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
How about you find some evidence for your claims rather than asserting someone is retarded and their "mind is trash"?The heat isn't the only limit for the CPU frequency. Just because you might get a 20C drop doesn't mean that it's a guaranteed overclocking boost. I can't remember seeing much more than 100MHz boost across multiple people who've delidded their chips - in general it just reduced temps and meant you could get away with a smaller cooler.
There are downsides to solder which never get talked about, but oh no Intel uses TIM it must be because they're a cheap company who're devoted to screwing every last buck out of their consumers.
Intel warrant the processor to run at a certain speed within a certain temperature, and they pick their TIM to suit that. You want them to make special chips for overclockers, well then you need to be a big enough market to do that.
(or, alternatively, do what Intel do and make sure that it's possible to pop off the IHS so you can replace the TIM with something different if you want to. Do you really think Intel couldn't stop you from doing that if they thought it was necessary? It's sufficiently difficult that the casual user won't do it but not difficult enough that the enthusiast won't do it, which is exactly the level you'd want to set it at)
Opencg - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
Lol good job youve heard of multiple people who got only 100mhz out of 20c drop. Starting off its common to get performance from heat drop alone when you are dropping out of the 85-100c range. Im sure you just arent aware of how throttling works on these systems. 100mhz would boost that into the 10% range. Also many get 300mhz overclocks and also get greater stability and real world performance like frame drops are better. I mean its whatever im glad you found some people that only got 100mhz. Its very clear from you that you got very mad and are not a very good overclocker. Probably just more people like you.And why argue so adamantly for intel? Again thermal paste limits lifespan and creates issues like core differential from the factory. People have asked for something better and the only reason they havent gotten it is greed.
Peter2k - Friday, June 8, 2018 - link
Less heat equals more voltage headroom -> better potential.Also you're gaining 100-300 Mhz and have lower temps.
Means less noise.
To top that off, higher temps means throttling kicks in, and many a people had increased stability in Prime and Asus RealBench after just delidding.
There are plenty of threads on overclock.net .
For a CPU being sold at a premium because its unlocked it should come with solder.
HEDT should absolutely be soldered. More cores more heat.
I've lapped 4 7700K's (mine, wife, and 2 from friends), all had an uneven IHS.
So not using solder did not do anything there either.
Aside from a potentially warped IHS, what other drawbacks are there with solder?
Higher cost?
Prices haven't gone down.
I hope I'm not gonna see how it gets micro fractures when you're going from -50°C to 90°C back and forth the whole time; read that too many times, not very likely scenario in anyone's use case.
0ldman79 - Wednesday, June 13, 2018 - link
They have a special chip for overclockers, it's the K line.If the TIM was really sufficient why would *all* Xeons be soldered?
svan1971 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
i dropped 22c on one of my 6 cores, intels tim is for shit.HStewart - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Some people like to give AMD more credit than they deserved. I think Intel biggest thread in the long run is ARM - just because they attack them at Intel largest market - which is of course mobile products.But it still nice to have AMD out to keep Intel on it feet and introducing new products.
vanilla_gorilla - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Intel's problem over the last year is AMD and will continue to be in lots of spaces for the forseeable future. ARM is a future threat that Intel has been planning to fight for years. This is one of the reasons they've spent the last decade focused on mobile.peevee - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
"ARM is a future threat that Intel has been planning to fight for years. This is one of the reasons they've spent the last decade focused on mobile."ARM is the past threat which (with Samsung, Qualcomm and Huawei) completely pushed Intel out of the biggest markets for CPUs.
But Intel retained the priciest.
nimi - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
>The Intel 8086 Sweepstakes is open only to legal residents of the 50 United States and the District of Columbia, Germany, France, Canada (excluding Quebec), the United Kingdom, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and China (excluding Hong Kong)Sweet! Finally a sweepstakes that isn't exclusive to the usual US/Canada restriction. For once I'm actually eligible
nimi - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
By the way, according to the sweepstakes rules, the ARV (Approximate Retail Value) is $425USDRyan Smith - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Great find! Thank you.Alistair - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Is there any plan for a proper 8700k successor to release this year?bug77 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Ice Lake, but it probably won't make the Q4'18 cut.psychobriggsy - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Whiskey Lake - another Skylake revamp on 14nm. Presumably as the 9700K and pushing clocks a bit higher again.If you are lucky in H2 2019 and Intel sort their 10nm, you will see Ice Lake.
If Intel don't fix their 10nm (many industry commentators suggest this is a big risk) then I guess you'll be seeing another 14nm Lake in 2019.
Dayman1225 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Whiskey Lake is Mobile Only :)Drumsticks - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Say what you will about the endless Lake rebadges, but am I the only one that is impressed with the 14nm process? Intel has gottan a ton of mileage out of it. Pushing performance an extra 300 MHz on the same power every year for the past several years has been a good imprpvement, and not one that necessarily comes for free with shrinking dies anymore, unless you're in the habit of making 2.5GHz chips. Globalfoundries might catch Intel with their 7nm process in absolute frequency.I'd much rather Intel spit out a revised, performance focused process, than a low power density focused one. Granted in an ideal world they'd have been doing this on 10nm for years instead, but such is life.
bug77 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
It's not all that impressive. As years go by, the manufacturing gets better so the chips bin better. We've seen this before when TSMC failed to transition to 20nm and GPU makers were stuck improving their 28nm designs.That said, Intel has competed based on their manufacturing lead for decades. It's nice to see them pushed onto more equal footing. But at the same time it's worrying to get a taste of what approaching the physical limits of silicon does to chip manufacturing.
Drumsticks - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
I still disagree. Clock speeds dropped from 5GHz in the Sandy bridge days down to like 4.3GHz in the Broadwell era. Even Zen+ tops out around 4.3GHz, whereas coffee lake tops out easily at at least 5.1. That's a solid 15-20% difference. It certainly doesn't excuse the glacial advancement in IPC that the industry has had, but it's notable nonetheless.Increasing density is great for GPUs, but it doesn't have nearly the effect on CPUs that it once did.
bug77 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Not sure what you disagree about, I don't see us contradicting each other ;)Unless I missed something.
Awful - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
It's on Ark now. 95W and DDR4-2666gamingkingx - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
WTF.. So a regular citizen from an EU country cannot join? I'm from Denmark.. Come on. Why can a citizen from Germany, France or UK join, but not me?haukionkannel - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Because those Are big countries. Denmark is small...casperes1996 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
But logistically it's no different to ship to us Danes than to ship to Germany. Just stick a different dress on the box.stux - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
I’m sure it’s legal and not logistic issues which make it tricky to offer international sweepstakes.bug77 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Thank the independence we have within the EU to impose different regulation from country to country. It makes smaller countries (and not only) that much less attractive.gamingkingx - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
What has size to do with anything?.. Germany and Denmark has the same legal stuff because of the EU. When they export that item to Germany it is to the EU they export it.. Not to Germany.mkaibear - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
Not actually true - Denmark has slightly different competition law to Germany, and other EU states are different again (it's not a power which has been transferred to the EU)Of course that competition law in this instance doesn't actually have a bearing on it because there's nothing in there which would prohibit the Danes from taking part so it's a decision on Intel's part. A crappy one if you ask me...
(but as a UK citizen it probably increases my chance of winning so... comme ci comme ca, as the French say...)
GreenReaper - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Nobody knows how to announce it in Danish; and if they did, nobody would understand:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
silverblue - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
That is awesome.jgarcows - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
From the sweepstakes official rules:> The potential Winners will be notified by email and required to complete a prize fulfillment form. In order to be eligible to win any prize, potential winners who are Canadian residents must correctly answer, unaided, a time-limited mathematical skill-testing question as posed by Sponsor.
Is this a normal thing for Canadians to be quizzed when they win something?
GreenReaper - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
It'll be intended to turn it into a skill-based contest and not a pure sweepstakes. It's likely to be simple enough to be a legal fiction (although being asked to multiply 80 by 86 might catch a few people out).eva02langley - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
It is because of the provincial laws. Quebec is regulating anything related to contests with Loto-Quebec, basically if you don't make a request, you cannot provide the contest in the province. Kind of stupid, the law should be amended.GreenReaper - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Well, Quebec has been excluded entirely (for that reason).cfenton - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Yes, that's normal. It's usually just a simple equation. Usually you have to answer when submitting your entry.peevee - Wednesday, June 27, 2018 - link
Simple IQ test? If only elections would require that.Devo2007 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
According to the technical specifications on Intel's page, it is indeed a 95W TDP part.https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/p...
GreenReaper - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
And yet, the thermal solution specification is 130W. 🤔dullard - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
The TDP is the average power when the chip is heated to the highest allowed temperature, running at base frequency on all cores doing highly complex but non-viral workloads. The recommended heat sink is higher power rated to allow the chip to run at turbo frequencies or overclock even higher in most circumstances. The 130W thermal solution specification is the same with the 8700K, 8600K, and 8350K overclockable Coffee Lake chips.GreenReaper - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Worth noting: those in the UK have a reserved allocation of 500 units.Midwayman - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
So awesome they actually did this.tricomp - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Naaa.. I'll stick to my 1600x 4.05ghz. Good enough for everything. I am a heavy ADOBE CC user + 3dsmax. Nothing it can not chew the next 4 yearsclassified12345 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Will people be able to buy it regularly?ilt24 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
Yes, they said they would go on sale June 8th.eek2121 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
I want one! Out on medical leave, so I probably won't be able to get one with only 50k being made, but nice?GiSWiG - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
5GHz turbo of ONE core? Possible all-core turbo of 4.6GHz? Nah. not really impressed. My 6700K runs all core, all the time at 4.6GHz on air without a hitch and I'm never maxing it out even while encoding. For me, there is no practical reason to get one. Ryzen 8c/16t is still much more appealing. If I win one from the sweepstakes, I'll probably ebay it once they are no longer available, as many others would. I'd have to buy a new motherboard for it. A free one would actually cost me money.Oxford Guy - Wednesday, June 6, 2018 - link
Yes. This product is really underwhelming, considering the mantle of fame it's trying to market itself with.The 8086 wasn't that great a chip when it debuted but since it started the x86 odyssey, one would think Intel could manage to make something actually exciting. It's also the 50th anniversary.
Weaksauce.
mkaibear - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
>50th anniversary2018-1978 is 40, dude, not 50.
Oxford Guy - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
"Intel’s 50 year company anniversary"svan1971 - Tuesday, June 5, 2018 - link
My delided 8700k has all 6 cores running at 5100 mhz @ 1.375 v