"Finally, like some other high-end gaming monitors, the Acer Predator X27 has a quad-port USB 3.0 hub for peripherals and two 4 W speakers that gamers typically use for operating system sounds."
Is this just using low end speakers for all sound when not having a headset plugged in, or is it possible to redirect different sources of sound to different outputs?
Since the April 2018 update, Windows has allowed you to set audio input and output devices on an application by application basis. Windows sounds have an entry of their own.
This means that if you have an audio card with multiple outputs (like analog + S/PDIF) or two audio cards, you can separate audio feeds. You could use it to have your default audio device be your main sound system or headphones, while having just Windows sounds play thru the monitor speakers.
There won't be options of this quality that are half this price in 6 months. There surely will be 4k 120hz monitors, but they won't be G-Sync, HDR, won't have localized backlight zones, and/or won't be using AHVA panels (more likely some TN style), which will have a much inferior viewing angles and color reproduction... In other words, no, there will not be other monitors that have these features at 1/2 the price in 6 months.
Best we can hope for is that the monitors in 6 months include HDMI 2.1 ports which will support 4k 120Hz 4:4:4 chroma and not need to use compression.
No promises on the price but AUO will be also producing a version of this panel without the FALD black light later this year. Samsung will also be producing a 4k 120hz VA panel as well later this year.
The HDR implementation and FALD is assumed to be what is causing manufacturing difficulties and pushing up the price.
So if you're mainly after 4k 120hz and don't are about HDR you might want to wait. Especially as FALD itself is not without drawbacks in current implementations (eg. haloing).
you wish. Now newegg may pull a shady one on us and sell this display for above msrp (msrp which we currently don't know anyway) but this monitor wont be "on sale" as in below msrp anytime soon. Maybe when refurbs start to surface but then again that's likely 2019
A problem is the selection of 1080 144hz monitors. Either you have to settle for a TN (using now dated panels which have been available for years with no updates) or the monitors now using the curved Samsung VA panel (I have reservations on the curve). There is no 1080p IPS option or anything rumored on the horizon.
What these might hopefully do is push down the cost of the AUO 27 inch 1440p 144hz IPS equivalent panels. Same with LGs plans now to launch a high refresh 1440p 27 inch panel later this year as well.
$2k lol...I just got a 4k hdr 65" Lg oled 65b7a model for $1300, best TV monitor for gaming according to rtings.com and a bunch of other places. Perfect blacks and ultra low input lag for games, they can keep that pricing.
What's the refresh rate on that TV, though? The big selling point of this monitor is 144hz @ 4k. Yes, the price is ridiculous, but it doesn't have much competition yet, either.
$1300? Was that new? Got a link to where you bought it from because that's a smoking price. Only the super sketchy definitely scam websites ahve it listed for that price...
@bleomycin Yeah it was brand new, the LG oled 65b7a can be had for $1300-$1400 if you know how to work the system right. I got all the info from slickdeals.net, just go to that forum and search for 65b7a and you'll see numerous deal threads that talk about it. Basically, you buy the TV for $1900 from a legit place like buydig.com or greentoe.com when they offer it for that price and then you use price protection/price rewind which is a feature on certain credit cards to price match it to one of the scam sites.
You have to have a supported credit card, I used my costco citi credit card to buy it for $1900 through the buydig ebay page, used tvsuperstores.com which is a scam site (they were selling it for $1099) for the price rewind request. I submitted the info through citipricerewind.com and 8 business days later it was approved and the max rewind credit you can get is $500 so they applied a $500 credit to my statement. When I bought TV from buydig ebay page I also got $100 back im ebay bucks, ebay was running promo so $1900 - $100 ebay bucks - $500 price rewind credit = $1300. Just register on slickdeals.net and set a deal alert for lg oled, read all the old threads on there for lg oleds and you'll pick up all the info. Citi credit cards are the most lax for price rewind requests, people have been abusing the hell out of it which is why Citi is changing the terms and starting either June or July the max you'll be able to get back is $250. That's why I bought the LG oled now, I was nervous my price rewind request would be denied but all the posts on slickdeals.net gave me confidence it would go through and it did. I just bought an xbox one x for $500 from best buy and submitted a price rewind for $299, found that price on scam site finesoundmast.com, it will probably get approved as well. Xbox one x for $299...hell yeah. These scam websites are great for price protection lol. There are people on slickdeals.net that have been doing this for a long time which is why Citi is changing it around. I never knew about this until I was reading about it on that deal forum.
@flashbacck Not even close to being fraud. If you see an item at a Best Buy store for $100 that is selling on Amazon.com for $70 and have Best Buy price match it is that fraud? What I posted is the same thing except you're doing it directly through your credit card provider and they will price match just about to anything. Is it fraud having them price match an item I bought to a website that I would never actually buy from because I don't trust it? No. I'm not misrepresenting or changing anything, I'm simply showing my credit card company this cheaper price I found online and they can either accept or deny it. If you think this is fraud then thousands of people on slickdeals.net are all fraudsters then.
You're getting something for less than it actually costs to produce and sell. While it may not technically be fraud (and honestly I'm doubtful about that) you're still willingly deceiving the company by quoting a price for which you know full well the product cannot legitimately be obtained (you even refer to the sites as "scam sites"). Your moral outrage at being called out rings decidedly hollow.
Here's the skinny: that company has to get the money to subsidise your bogus claim from somewhere, so you're effectively socialising the cost of that TV out to other unwilling individuals; either other customers of the same credit company or its employees/shareholders.
Incidentally and in case you considered this defence, the fact that they're stupid enough to let you quote a scam site as a source for pricing doesn't in any way absolve you of responsibility for actually doing it.
Meh, I'm not losing any sleep because my credit card company is willing to price match a less than reputable site. These poor credit card companies, what are they to do? I'm sure Citi and other credit card companies that offer price protection are not hurting too bad or they wouldn't be offering this.
"You're getting something for less than it actually costs to produce and sell."
And that is what I call a slick deal! There are people like you that always bring up this same argument on slickdeals.net when someone mentions this. If you feel like you need to be God's little righteous Angel in life, then please go right ahead and have fun paying hundreds of dollars more than me for the same stuff.
For 2k I'd expect not having the word predator on front of the monitor. When are companies going to realize that people with money don't want this stupid gamer crap. They would sell a lot more.
Too expensive for something expected to come out in 2017. Otherwise, the display size is too small for the price. The Nvidia large displays with simliar specs, I think, we will have a small price premium over this.
Make it: 32'' 4k, 120Hz be enough, Gsync, factory calibrated & properly checked, no stupid 13 years old gamer designs, down to earth $1200 price and i'll get one.
$2k for 27''4k is a joke. Very bad joke, no matter the specs.This is not professional designer monitor. Don't buy this crap, vote with your wallet. Enough of this price gouging.
>>"$2k for 27''4k is a joke. Very bad joke, no matter the specs.This is not professional designer monitor. Don't buy this crap, vote with your wallet. Enough of this price gouging."
The price is a bit high, but let's put it this way -- this is potentially almost an OLED-quality LCD -- provided it reaches the echelons of some of the best LCDs I saw at CES 2018 -- the quantum-dot locally-dimmed models which I saw as televisions had the inky blacks next to ultra bright whites -- with good antiblooming algorithms.
I bought an Acer Predator 32" xb321hk and the GSync and artifacting issues still continues even after 2+ months of Acer having my monitor as well as swapping out with a new monitor.
Imagine what the wife would think if she saw you editing photos of your child on your new monitor with a huge light shade on it, with the word PREDATOR written in metal and all caps in the front, shining in the ambient light.
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PeachNCream - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
If the monitor is a "Predator" then they prey must be your wallet.The Chill Blueberry - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
They should do this as an Aril fool jokeanananananantechhh - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
Twice the price of a 49 inch x900fDanNeely - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
"Finally, like some other high-end gaming monitors, the Acer Predator X27 has a quad-port USB 3.0 hub for peripherals and two 4 W speakers that gamers typically use for operating system sounds."Is this just using low end speakers for all sound when not having a headset plugged in, or is it possible to redirect different sources of sound to different outputs?
Hul8 - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
Since the April 2018 update, Windows has allowed you to set audio input and output devices on an application by application basis. Windows sounds have an entry of their own.This means that if you have an audio card with multiple outputs (like analog + S/PDIF) or two audio cards, you can separate audio feeds. You could use it to have your default audio device be your main sound system or headphones, while having just Windows sounds play thru the monitor speakers.
Cellar Door - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
Say NO to this bullcrap! In 6 months, there will be options at half the price and even less.Fallen Kell - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
There won't be options of this quality that are half this price in 6 months. There surely will be 4k 120hz monitors, but they won't be G-Sync, HDR, won't have localized backlight zones, and/or won't be using AHVA panels (more likely some TN style), which will have a much inferior viewing angles and color reproduction... In other words, no, there will not be other monitors that have these features at 1/2 the price in 6 months.Best we can hope for is that the monitors in 6 months include HDMI 2.1 ports which will support 4k 120Hz 4:4:4 chroma and not need to use compression.
limitedaccess - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
No promises on the price but AUO will be also producing a version of this panel without the FALD black light later this year. Samsung will also be producing a 4k 120hz VA panel as well later this year.The HDR implementation and FALD is assumed to be what is causing manufacturing difficulties and pushing up the price.
So if you're mainly after 4k 120hz and don't are about HDR you might want to wait. Especially as FALD itself is not without drawbacks in current implementations (eg. haloing).
hanselltc - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
I am very curious as to what the irl differences are between a VA panel and an IPS panel of this specification.limitedaccess - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
I don't believe the Samsung panel will have a FALD back light. So the differences would likely be the same general differences between a VA and IPS.Hxx - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
you wish. Now newegg may pull a shady one on us and sell this display for above msrp (msrp which we currently don't know anyway) but this monitor wont be "on sale" as in below msrp anytime soon. Maybe when refurbs start to surface but then again that's likely 2019Enchalada - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
What can a GTX 1080ti squeeze out of this thing? 4k at 144hz of course not.Sttm - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
Future Proofing, run it 1080 or 1440 now at 144 then when next gen cards are out move to 4k.Diji1 - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
Running it at lower resolution than native makes everything blurry.hanselltc - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
And I wonder what will be the cost if you just roll with a 1080p 144hz monitor and buy some cheaper versions of this later down the line.limitedaccess - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
A problem is the selection of 1080 144hz monitors. Either you have to settle for a TN (using now dated panels which have been available for years with no updates) or the monitors now using the curved Samsung VA panel (I have reservations on the curve). There is no 1080p IPS option or anything rumored on the horizon.limitedaccess - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
What these might hopefully do is push down the cost of the AUO 27 inch 1440p 144hz IPS equivalent panels. Same with LGs plans now to launch a high refresh 1440p 27 inch panel later this year as well.Diji1 - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
Depends on game.Sttm - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
Im waiting for the $3k ultrawides. Im going to sell a kidney.stinkyj - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
sold out initial supply looks like. Nowhere to pre-order now.gigahertz20 - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
$2k lol...I just got a 4k hdr 65" Lg oled 65b7a model for $1300, best TV monitor for gaming according to rtings.com and a bunch of other places. Perfect blacks and ultra low input lag for games, they can keep that pricing.MadMurdock - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
What's the refresh rate on that TV, though? The big selling point of this monitor is 144hz @ 4k. Yes, the price is ridiculous, but it doesn't have much competition yet, either.Diji1 - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
For console gaming that has no refresh sync sure.bleomycin - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
$1300? Was that new? Got a link to where you bought it from because that's a smoking price. Only the super sketchy definitely scam websites ahve it listed for that price...gigahertz20 - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
@bleomycin Yeah it was brand new, the LG oled 65b7a can be had for $1300-$1400 if you know how to work the system right. I got all the info from slickdeals.net, just go to that forum and search for 65b7a and you'll see numerous deal threads that talk about it. Basically, you buy the TV for $1900 from a legit place like buydig.com or greentoe.com when they offer it for that price and then you use price protection/price rewind which is a feature on certain credit cards to price match it to one of the scam sites.You have to have a supported credit card, I used my costco citi credit card to buy it for $1900 through the buydig ebay page, used tvsuperstores.com which is a scam site (they were selling it for $1099) for the price rewind request. I submitted the info through citipricerewind.com and 8 business days later it was approved and the max rewind credit you can get is $500 so they applied a $500 credit to my statement. When I bought TV from buydig ebay page I also got $100 back im ebay bucks, ebay was running promo so $1900 - $100 ebay bucks - $500 price rewind credit = $1300. Just register on slickdeals.net and set a deal alert for lg oled, read all the old threads on there for lg oleds and you'll pick up all the info. Citi credit cards are the most lax for price rewind requests, people have been abusing the hell out of it which is why Citi is changing the terms and starting either June or July the max you'll be able to get back is $250. That's why I bought the LG oled now, I was nervous my price rewind request would be denied but all the posts on slickdeals.net gave me confidence it would go through and it did.
I just bought an xbox one x for $500 from best buy and submitted a price rewind for $299, found that price on scam site finesoundmast.com, it will probably get approved as well. Xbox one x for $299...hell yeah. These scam websites are great for price protection lol. There are people on slickdeals.net that have been doing this for a long time which is why Citi is changing it around. I never knew about this until I was reading about it on that deal forum.
flashbacck - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
"which is a feature on certain credit cards to price match it to one of the scam sites"Great, so you're just commiting fraud.
gigahertz20 - Sunday, May 20, 2018 - link
@flashbacck Not even close to being fraud. If you see an item at a Best Buy store for $100 that is selling on Amazon.com for $70 and have Best Buy price match it is that fraud? What I posted is the same thing except you're doing it directly through your credit card provider and they will price match just about to anything. Is it fraud having them price match an item I bought to a website that I would never actually buy from because I don't trust it? No. I'm not misrepresenting or changing anything, I'm simply showing my credit card company this cheaper price I found online and they can either accept or deny it. If you think this is fraud then thousands of people on slickdeals.net are all fraudsters then.Spunjji - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
You're getting something for less than it actually costs to produce and sell. While it may not technically be fraud (and honestly I'm doubtful about that) you're still willingly deceiving the company by quoting a price for which you know full well the product cannot legitimately be obtained (you even refer to the sites as "scam sites"). Your moral outrage at being called out rings decidedly hollow.Here's the skinny: that company has to get the money to subsidise your bogus claim from somewhere, so you're effectively socialising the cost of that TV out to other unwilling individuals; either other customers of the same credit company or its employees/shareholders.
Incidentally and in case you considered this defence, the fact that they're stupid enough to let you quote a scam site as a source for pricing doesn't in any way absolve you of responsibility for actually doing it.
gigahertz20 - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
Meh, I'm not losing any sleep because my credit card company is willing to price match a less than reputable site. These poor credit card companies, what are they to do? I'm sure Citi and other credit card companies that offer price protection are not hurting too bad or they wouldn't be offering this."You're getting something for less than it actually costs to produce and sell."
And that is what I call a slick deal! There are people like you that always bring up this same argument on slickdeals.net when someone mentions this. If you feel like you need to be God's little righteous Angel in life, then please go right ahead and have fun paying hundreds of dollars more than me for the same stuff.
imaheadcase - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link
Sigh, not this again. Tv gaming not in same ballpark as a PC monitor. That post is for some console gaming websiteDiji1 - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
Any word on whether these are Nvidia 3D Certified? They appear to have the prerequisite refresh and brightness but maybe other factors prevent it.Recently I bought an XB252Q and was pleasantly surprised to find it was 3D Certified. I cannot recall any reviews even mentioning it!
Ryan Smith - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
NVIDIA is no longer promoting 3D Vision. So if it 3D Certified, I suspect we'll all be just as surprised as you were.sibuna - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
acer and asus need to stop with those stands and just go to a standard one like Dell uses. FFS those are ugly and take up far too much spaceboeush - Saturday, May 19, 2018 - link
Nice design... The side shot looks like a hunchbacked alien with an erection. Truly inspiring! :PDug - Sunday, May 20, 2018 - link
For 2k I'd expect not having the word predator on front of the monitor. When are companies going to realize that people with money don't want this stupid gamer crap. They would sell a lot more.zodiacfml - Sunday, May 20, 2018 - link
Too expensive for something expected to come out in 2017. Otherwise, the display size is too small for the price. The Nvidia large displays with simliar specs, I think, we will have a small price premium over this.milkod2001 - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
Make it: 32'' 4k, 120Hz be enough, Gsync, factory calibrated & properly checked, no stupid 13 years old gamer designs, down to earth $1200 price and i'll get one.$2k for 27''4k is a joke. Very bad joke, no matter the specs.This is not professional designer monitor. Don't buy this crap, vote with your wallet. Enough of this price gouging.
mdrejhon - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link
>>"$2k for 27''4k is a joke. Very bad joke, no matter the specs.This is not professional designer monitor. Don't buy this crap, vote with your wallet. Enough of this price gouging."Regardless of brand sentiment, there is over 100x more firmware engineering work put into the Acer -- https://www.blurbusters.com/4k-144hz-g-sync-hdr-ga...
The price is a bit high, but let's put it this way -- this is potentially almost an OLED-quality LCD -- provided it reaches the echelons of some of the best LCDs I saw at CES 2018 -- the quantum-dot locally-dimmed models which I saw as televisions had the inky blacks next to ultra bright whites -- with good antiblooming algorithms.
adambomb13 - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
I bought an Acer Predator 32" xb321hk and the GSync and artifacting issues still continues even after 2+ months of Acer having my monitor as well as swapping out with a new monitor.BUYER BEWARE:
https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/441879/xb...
wrkingclass_hero - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
Imagine what the wife would think if she saw you editing photos of your child on your new monitor with a huge light shade on it, with the word PREDATOR written in metal and all caps in the front, shining in the ambient light.