Very exciting news for AMD. I'm looking forward to the release of the 2nd generation Threadripper processors. I hope that things continue to improve for AMD from here on out.
according to that one guy the other day "AMD has been in a loss situation for far too long, including all of 2017"
apparently not ahahaha.
awesome AMD keep it up, oh, and get some GPU out there that are closer to the MSRP for us gamers who have been waiting for far too long to get our paws on some nummy new graphics cards (40-60-180% over MSRP is not a good thing at all)
Maybe try offering to sell via AMD.com directly would be a step in the right direction even if it is an AIB partner card at least (in theory) you may be able to tell much easier which AIB causes more problems than they are worth because after all with us customers buying the product tere would be no AMD ^.^
Still do not understand why their share price is not $20+ USD considering how amazing a turn around they have done 2016 till now, jumped to $15 for a few days but has been bouncing around the $7-$12.50 or so since the initial "boom" of pre ryzen to ryzen release.
I really wish byrons and such would stop bad mouthing AMD and look at what they have accomplished and have done for the industry on a whole, not just that they are not lining their ulterior motive pocket books O.o
Heh, I always figured Keller is going around every company _but_ Intel, assuming he applied there first and they declined with "We don’t think you have the right koalafications, sorry." :P
My guess is because the platform is so new, Xeon is still the 'safe' bet. I imagine it will take time to build up trust but solid results from the Ryzen chips will surely help with that.
It also doesn't help that many of the server vendors don't have more than a handful or two of AMD server options. Couple that with Threadripper being a pretty good option for a Workstation level machine (it will even do non-registered ECC DIMMs) and it isn't a surprise that enterprise is lagging comparatively.
Trust. AMD screwed up the server world for years. When you have large numbers of servers, and you need to keep them all from the same CPU vendor to make migrating VM hosts easier, you dont want to choose a company that will fall asleep at the wheel every 2 minutes.
Servers also last awhile. We replace our severs every 7-8 years because we dont always have money for new ones. We bought haswell last time around because bulldozer was so meh. EPYC is really interesting to us, but it will be another 2-3 years before we consider an upgrade. Other companies usually replace every 5 years for warranty purposes, but that means anybody that bought a server in 2013 or later isnt ready for new hardware yet. And there is the lack of AMD server options.
EPYC is good, so is ryzen, but AMD needs to prove they can reliably deliver on good chips. Give it 2 or 3 years, and if AMD continues to deliver, you will see EPYC pick up steam.
Just wanted to echo this. My home PC is now Ryzen but I'm still not ready for EPYC in my datacenter. Hopefully by the next significant refresh I'll have some EPYC options.
Just chiming in to say I agree on both points, however I'm pretty sure the server life-cycle is the biggest deal here. Sandy Bridge generation hardware is still very viable for a lot of people's use cases. EPYC brings interesting benefits for some use cases but most folks will have crossed over from AMD a while back given their nigh-on 4-year absence from the market. Here's hoping they can break down those walls (again)..!
EPYC motherboards and CPUs have been hard to come by. Our 8-core EPYC system (iSCSI storage server so we need the PCIe lanes more than the CPU cores) took almost 6 months to arrive.
Folks need to qualify it, run pilots and then volume. Gets much easier with future gens but right now it's no relevant volumes. With 7nm they can sample this year, launch in Q1-Q2, GloFo willing, same infrastructure, it can hit the ground running.
It's easy for a consumer to lose sight of the speed at which enterprise will move on to a new platform. I work in a high tech field, but our offices still use 4th gen intel CPUs except for specific applications like heavy statistical analysis work.
We have legacy equipment that still needs XP to function.
A move to a totally different server platform is a big move, the current interested parties are one of the following: 1) Building a NEW datacenter 2) Just happened to hit end of life cycle on current systems in the last 12 months
Those 2 groups are a fairly small number, but I expect to see some real movement over the next two years, especially as these first customers prove out the environment and optimizations are made.
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Rictorhell - Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - link
Very exciting news for AMD. I'm looking forward to the release of the 2nd generation Threadripper processors. I hope that things continue to improve for AMD from here on out.Dragonstongue - Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - link
according to that one guy the other day "AMD has been in a loss situation for far too long, including all of 2017"apparently not ahahaha.
awesome AMD keep it up, oh, and get some GPU out there that are closer to the MSRP for us gamers who have been waiting for far too long to get our paws on some nummy new graphics cards (40-60-180% over MSRP is not a good thing at all)
Maybe try offering to sell via AMD.com directly would be a step in the right direction even if it is an AIB partner card at least (in theory) you may be able to tell much easier which AIB causes more problems than they are worth because after all with us customers buying the product tere would be no AMD ^.^
Still do not understand why their share price is not $20+ USD considering how amazing a turn around they have done 2016 till now, jumped to $15 for a few days but has been bouncing around the $7-$12.50 or so since the initial "boom" of pre ryzen to ryzen release.
I really wish byrons and such would stop bad mouthing AMD and look at what they have accomplished and have done for the industry on a whole, not just that they are not lining their ulterior motive pocket books O.o
jjj - Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - link
In other news, Jim Keller left Tesla and the crazy rumor is that he's going to Intel but that would be too funny.xype - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
Heh, I always figured Keller is going around every company _but_ Intel, assuming he applied there first and they declined with "We don’t think you have the right koalafications, sorry." :Pphoenix_rizzen - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
Not much of a rumour anymore:https://www.google.ca/search?q=jim+keller+moves+to...
iwod - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
Why hasn't EPYC picked up stream? I wasn't expecting some massive jump, but it seems EPYC is selling a little below even the conservative expectation.jimjamjamie - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
My guess is because the platform is so new, Xeon is still the 'safe' bet. I imagine it will take time to build up trust but solid results from the Ryzen chips will surely help with that.SaberKOG91 - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
It also doesn't help that many of the server vendors don't have more than a handful or two of AMD server options. Couple that with Threadripper being a pretty good option for a Workstation level machine (it will even do non-registered ECC DIMMs) and it isn't a surprise that enterprise is lagging comparatively.TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
Trust. AMD screwed up the server world for years. When you have large numbers of servers, and you need to keep them all from the same CPU vendor to make migrating VM hosts easier, you dont want to choose a company that will fall asleep at the wheel every 2 minutes.Servers also last awhile. We replace our severs every 7-8 years because we dont always have money for new ones. We bought haswell last time around because bulldozer was so meh. EPYC is really interesting to us, but it will be another 2-3 years before we consider an upgrade. Other companies usually replace every 5 years for warranty purposes, but that means anybody that bought a server in 2013 or later isnt ready for new hardware yet. And there is the lack of AMD server options.
EPYC is good, so is ryzen, but AMD needs to prove they can reliably deliver on good chips. Give it 2 or 3 years, and if AMD continues to deliver, you will see EPYC pick up steam.
vanilla_gorilla - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
Just wanted to echo this. My home PC is now Ryzen but I'm still not ready for EPYC in my datacenter. Hopefully by the next significant refresh I'll have some EPYC options.Spunjji - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
Just chiming in to say I agree on both points, however I'm pretty sure the server life-cycle is the biggest deal here. Sandy Bridge generation hardware is still very viable for a lot of people's use cases. EPYC brings interesting benefits for some use cases but most folks will have crossed over from AMD a while back given their nigh-on 4-year absence from the market. Here's hoping they can break down those walls (again)..!phoenix_rizzen - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
EPYC motherboards and CPUs have been hard to come by. Our 8-core EPYC system (iSCSI storage server so we need the PCIe lanes more than the CPU cores) took almost 6 months to arrive.jjj - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
Folks need to qualify it, run pilots and then volume. Gets much easier with future gens but right now it's no relevant volumes. With 7nm they can sample this year, launch in Q1-Q2, GloFo willing, same infrastructure, it can hit the ground running.FullmetalTitan - Thursday, April 26, 2018 - link
It's easy for a consumer to lose sight of the speed at which enterprise will move on to a new platform. I work in a high tech field, but our offices still use 4th gen intel CPUs except for specific applications like heavy statistical analysis work.We have legacy equipment that still needs XP to function.
A move to a totally different server platform is a big move, the current interested parties are one of the following:
1) Building a NEW datacenter
2) Just happened to hit end of life cycle on current systems in the last 12 months
Those 2 groups are a fairly small number, but I expect to see some real movement over the next two years, especially as these first customers prove out the environment and optimizations are made.