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  • Goodspike - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    So the ThinQ is supposed to be about AI (as in think) rather than being about the phone being thin? And that is based on having a dedicated button to summon Google Assistant? I'm not one who cares about how thin a phone is, but I still have problems with that name. I think it comes across more as thin-q than thinq (think), and if they wanted it to sound like think the Q should not have been capitalized. But that in any case a dedicated button isn't that significant.
  • Alistair - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    I think it's sad that I'm seeing so much abuse directed towards LG today. Everything they are doing makes perfect sense.

    The phone is thinner and lighter than the Samsung equivalent. It doesn't have curved edges, so it doesn't suffer from poor quality visuals at the edge either. I'll take the flat LG LCD over the terrible curved OLED even though I'd prefer a flat Samsung OLED. Makes it easier to put in a case and more comfortable to hold with a case on it.

    I hope you can still use the fingerprint reader as a power button, that was my favorite feature. The side power button is hard to press in a case, but since the case never covers the fingerprint reader, again I thought that was superior.

    LCD panels generally have worse uniformity the larger they are. No problem with a phone screen. I want an OLED TV, for a phone it matters little. I'll take the outdoor brightness and low battery usage and consistent quality along with the default 1440p over the Samsung 1080p one.

    Again a dedicated button for the Google assistant is actually useful over a Bixby button. And since LG isn't pushing the assistant, I'm sure they'd be open to allowing a remap unlike Samsung as well who needs Bixby to succeed.

    So all in all, I'll probably be able to buy it for $200 less than Samsung S9+ and it will be superior also. Sometimes I wonder if people actually use Samsung phones, as my experience with the S7 and S8 was terrible and have been enjoying my LG G6 immensely.
  • Trixanity - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    The article states you can't use the fingerprint sensor as a power button. At best they'll implement it as a software feature which is off limited use in my opinion; however it sounds like there's no physical actuation which is what I'd consider a button.

    And the abuse directed towards LG is very valid. They abuse their customer time and time again. Very few people go back to owning LG devices. Some will try again and then swear off them. Their bootlooping, QA and software support problems all contribute to them becoming this mostly irrelevant player. It's not something that came out of nowhere.

    I had an LG G2. That's arguably the best device LG released in the G series. I have no interest in going back to owning an LG device despite that. Despite the fact that I avoided the bootlooping.
    What problems did I have? Creaky plastic back and audio problems requiring custom kernel to have a clean audio signal. The only reason I kept it around for that long is due to developer support because LG abandoned it very ungracefully. They launched it with JB despite KK being the latest and dropped it the moment they released LP. That was basically the cheap way of saying "but it had two OS updates - we've done our part".
  • RagnarAntonisen - Sunday, May 20, 2018 - link

    I replaced my ageing Galaxy S5 with an LG V20. The only feature I cared about was that, like the S5, the V20 had a removable battery.

    LG, like Samsung, have since stopped making phones with removable batteries.
  • amosbatto - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link

    I totally agree about the need for a removable battery. I have basically decided to not buy a new smartphone, because none of the decent models have a removable battery. I blogged about this problem:
    https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/free-m...
  • baka_toroi - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Does LG still stand for "Loops Good" or have they improved on that front?
  • Paazel - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    LG= Lucky Goldstar. The combination of two third rate 1990 era electronics manufacturers.
  • baka_toroi - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    It seems my sarcasm didn't translate well.

    LG phones were notorious for their boot loops in Android. I was wondering if their phones still have that issue or if they managed to fix it.
  • NICOXIS - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    hahaha it was pretty obvious (and funny) reference to boot loop issues that plagued some LG models in the past. I haven't heard any widespread issues since the G5 though.
  • NatashaThomas - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    I resigned my office-job and now I am getting paid £64 hourly. How? I work over internet! My old work was making me miserable, so I was forced to try something different, two years after...I can say my life is changed-completely for the better!

    Check it out what i do..
  • Yomama6776 - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    go away
  • Alistair - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Also I know many people with LG G4, never once had any problems. I ran into two Samsung phones with the Google Play Services not responding bug, out of the box without any applications installed. Literally the software outright bricked those two phones. Then I had wifi die with my Samsung phone, I said no more to Samsung, thank god. Quality is definitely not superior with Samsung, not at all.

    My brother loyally bought Samsung since the S2, finally gave up and switched to a superior LG phone also. Even my boss gave up on Samsung after his S6 died and he couldn't get the files off of it.
  • jabber - Sunday, May 6, 2018 - link

    Been using 'Smart Phones' since about 2004 and my LG G4 has been the best and least troublesome of the lot. Will possibly be buying a new phone in September and will look seriously at the G6 (will be super cheap by then, LG Flagships seem to drop £150-200 within a month on Amazon) and maybe this one.
  • NICOXIS - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Bigger display and less battery? Wasn't LG delaying this to improve the desing??
  • shabby - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    They did improve the design... they added a notch.
  • NICOXIS - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    oh forgot about the notch, I take it back, this phone is perfect!

    /s
  • takeshi7 - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    They just need to bring back removable batteries.
  • HansCPH - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    Absolutely right. Replaceable battery or no sale.
  • Tams80 - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    Good luck with that (and I too want replaceable batteries to make a come-back).
  • arayoflight - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Can anyone explain to me how can V30 or iPhone X compete with phones like Pixel 2 or Galaxy S9 in overall camera quality despite having significantly smaller sensors (1/3" vs 1/2.6")?
  • Matt Humrick - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Computational photography. Image quality relies heavily on software post-processing.
  • lazarpandar - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    I think as machine learning gets better, photos will get better, even if we're at the limit of optics and sensors in such a small form factor. The distribution of images that people take are not uniformly random, if we can bias towards increased (even if fake) detail on plants, buildings, clouds etc etc, we will recognize these images as being better, even if they aren't necessarily closer to the truth.
  • BedfordTim - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Size always helps but it isn't the only factor. Typically reductions in noise in newer sensors have compensated for the smaller pixels. That said bigger pixels are still desirable.
  • zogus - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Although I can't find any source with actual numbers, Apple has said that iPhone X's sensor is bigger than the predecessors, which used 1/3".
  • euler007 - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Give me ThicQ, 0.5 inch phone with a replaceable battery that last for days.
  • Gunbuster - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Since you dont bother to mention it: What is the back made of? Glass? Plastic?
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    It's glass, just like the G6 and V30.
  • Matt Humrick - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Is the Quad DAC audio available in all markets? LG limited this feature to only certain markets for the G6. Does the G7 come with wireless charging in all markets?
  • imaheadcase - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    I don't understand phone design at all, why even have notifications on the screen at all up top? Why not a whole uniform screen to see everything without them?

    Notifications should be at a software level, not OS level. If a piece of software wants to notify you, simply have it show on a active icon on the screen. Like gmail does with showing number of emails on icon. Even stuff like wifi/etc..do we really need to know about it being on? YOU know you turned it on or off already.
  • thomasg - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    In LineageOS (and probably some vendor distributions) you can disable the notification bar.
    I prefer not to, and find it useful.

    Clearly, notifications have to be a operating system feature, especially on android where due to security concerns with third party applications it is not acceptable to have apps draw anywhere on the screen besides their main buffer.
    This has added benefits like applications not even having to run while their notifications are still available.
    We used to have notifications provided by applications - in all modern operating systems this has been replaced by a unified notification service provided by the OS, because the downsides are much fewer.

    Do you really, at any point, know if you have wifi, bluetooth, airplane-mode, do-not-disturb, or an alarm on? Do you also manually keep track of your battery status? Somehow I doubt it.
    A few lines of pixels will tell you in the blink of an eye and basically take nothing away from you.
    The notch-thing even goes further than that, by abusing the extra space next to the front-sensor-array for this, so it basically doesn't cost you any real-estate.
  • Oyeve - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Oh yay, another useless notch on a horrible IPS LCD screen. Oh, and a useless quad DAC. If you have high-end headphones that would even initiate the quad DAC then you probably don't even use a smartphone as a legit music device.
  • VirusTheory - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    Its not really a useless notch... The sensors have to go somewhere. You get a small bezel like on the S9 or a notch these days. And LG's OLED screens haven't had the best track record. Just look at the Pixel 2 screen troubles. Maybe next phone they will have those troubles worked out.
  • LiverpoolFC5903 - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    Horrible IPS LCD screen? Lol, you need to go back to WFFCtech or PhoneArena or something.

    My 300 USD WS1100iS (Audiotechnica) takes full use of my V20's quad dac, with sound fidelity that can match a bose. Speak for yourself.

    Really applaud LG and Samsung for retaining the 3.5 mm jack. Hope like minded customers reward their decision through high demand.
  • 0iron - Wednesday, May 2, 2018 - link

    "The device maintains a 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM configuration"
    Oh my! Now AT using ROM for NAND storage
  • piroroadkill - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    Journalism isn't what it used to be, eh?
  • PeachNCream - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    It's a minor mistake. They're tech reporters so they probably are not fully aware of terminology that's second nature to people that work inside the industry. We shouldn't fault the journalists and editorial staff for lacking decades of experience and it's a really easy fix.
  • fmcjw - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    Lousy writing can't be excused, it reveals incompetence at the core, like how the froth on a latte speaks to the barista's attitude and skill, so I wouldn't say it's minor. 2 rookie mistakes from a quick read, as I'm not in the business of proof-reading for Anandtech: screen dimensions is not "diameter" but "diagonal". Inconsistency in the specs table, listing pixel dimensions for one but not the other, when both sensor models are known. Anandtech stood for quality over quantity, but for a long time now it's missing both.
  • akyp - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    "LG succumbed to market pressure to include it into the G7"

    Really? Pretty sure nobody asked for a notch in the screen.
  • jjj - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    Would be useful if they could ThinQ and remove the lower bezel plus the upper notch.
    One has to be senile to make a device with both a notch and a bezel. This is the 4th consecutive year that LG shoots itself in the face with their flagship. If you have a notch, it means that you could have NO notch, you are just too lazy to deal with the front camera and the few sensors+speaker in another way.

    Stretchable> rollable> foldable> full display > single notch> single bezel> dual bezel> toilet water > notch+bezel
    There, you got the roadmap, stick to it and hurry up before glasses end the smartphone.
  • Quantumz0d - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    DOA. Garbage Notch, abandoned their Original design, camera orientation, from G2 days the power button location, after abandoning the V20's removable battery they went retarded at 1000 points thanks to that V30S pricing, now this phone has extra along screen due to that Notch & new design vs V30 it looses the wide screen factor. Wtf is that battery capacity ? LCD and damn same camera and massive AI bloat and multiple SKUs for the phone without BL unlock.

    Its saddening to see LG go this way, the Nexus 4/5 were so big boost they managed to get somewhat significant over HTC or Sony. Now they want to go back to the stone age.

    LG just had to do two things to do - Improve their QC on HW and Redesign their software a bit, polish like S8 touchwiz, give an Unlockable BL phone which will gather good community and improve the life of their devices, Only good thing this phone has is the DAC and 3.5mm jack, even it doesn't work with Lineage if it happens like all other phones it's really welcomed, seems like the DAC on custom ROMs is extinct nowadays.. SGS, SGSIII, GNex, Nexus S, Axon 7 are the ones that I could name for now. Oh and that new Resonance chamber speaker is welcomed as well.

    No one with an ounce of human thinking in their brains won't buy this POS. Whatever happened at LG exec shakeup this company is doomed. HTC 2.0 Bootlooped = LG. I only hope that whatever V40 will be and should be like V30 design with all improvements like battery, camera tech, BL unlock, Quality HW and Software update mess fix.
  • PeachNCream - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    "The device maintains a 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM configuration.."

    ROM stands for Read Only Memory which implies that there is no capability to write new data. I highly doubt that's the case with the 64GB of storage inside the G7.
  • 1_rick - Saturday, May 5, 2018 - link

    If we're going, "maintains" is the song word, too. Just say "has".
  • Gasaraki88 - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    The LG G6 actually has an Snapdragon 821.
  • jo-82 - Friday, May 4, 2018 - link

    LG did not update my G6 since a year, still on Android 7.0 March 2017. 0/10, will not buy again!
  • amrs - Friday, May 4, 2018 - link

    Are they really shipping the G7 with Android 8.0? Not 8.1? I understand V30 was updated to 8.1 so this seems weird.
  • ahmedraj - Sunday, May 6, 2018 - link

    I always love LG phones and this phone is really too good especially cameras are unbelievable ...
  • CaedenV - Sunday, May 6, 2018 - link

    *ugh* who is designing these phones? Who is asking for extra long phones with notches in the top? Would it kill someone to have a 16:9 display at 5.7-6.2"? And just put a full bezel on top with a speaker, and then make the bottom and sides bezel-less. It would look good, it would be practical... what isn't to love? Add in a decent headphone jack and camera, a fingerprint reader in the middle to bottom of the back of the phone... none of this seems difficult to figure out.
    But Noooo, we can't have nice things. Everything is either a copy of Apples worst selling phone in history, or some silly Samsung with a beveled front. Who cares if what I am looking for lacks vision. They would be comfortable, good, easy to use phones? What is wrong with that?
  • James_Whatson - Tuesday, May 8, 2018 - link

    LG AI features remain very gimmicky and far less practical than say, Huawei’s. LG even went as far to introduce a new button on the side of the phone underneath the volume buttons which is used for AI features.

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  • jmunjr - Tuesday, May 8, 2018 - link

    Ugh I really want a flagship to return with a replaceable battery. I think the last one is the G5 which I have and love. I cannot stand the sealed battery. I go through the juice very quickly on my phones and replacing them is way more convenient and easier than carrying a power bank.
  • amosbatto - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link

    At this point, all the Android flagship smartphones on the market are virtually the same, so there is no point paying extra for one model vs another model. There are some differences, but I consider all the following features to be non-essential gimmicks:
    1. curved screens
    2. AI and special buttons for AI (only when used with cameras is AI useful in my opinion)
    3. Bezeless designs (just makes it easier to crack the screens and prevents the phone from having decent, front-facing speakers)
    4. Extra horizontal pixels (18:9 and 19:9 screen ratios just drain the battery faster and offer no benefit since it is extra vertical pixels that I need)
    5. More than 4 GB of RAM (more RAM provides very little benefit)
    6. fingerprint sensors inside screens (or fingerprint sensors in general)
    7. Waterproofing (what a waste, since it means no removeable battery)
    8. Glass backs (which make them more fragile and easier to break)
    In other words, none of the gimmicks that the smartphone industry has introduced in the last 2 years do I find useful. The only innovations in recent years that I consider to be of any real value is USF storage and possibly foldable OLED screens in the future Galaxy X that will allow a phone to folded out as a tablet.

    On the other hand, most of the so-called innovation has been to make phones less useful in my opinion:
    1. Elimination of the removable battery. Basically, the phone industry wants to force me to buy a new phone every 2 years when the battery starts to wear out.
    2. Sealed cases. The phone industry wants to make it virtually impossible for me to fix my own phone.
    3. SIM and memory cards that are hard to remove. It used to be very easy to pop out the cards and replace them without having any special tools.
    4. More types of processors so less likely that custom ROMs will work. It used to be that you could replace the OS with CynogenMod or some other custom ROM, but now the number of phones supported by LineageOS has been decreasing, since there are so many phone makers who now produce their own processors (Samsung Exynos, Huawei Kirin, Xiaomi Surge).
    5. Fragile cases with less bezel and more glass which is easier to break.

    Wow, what innovation! I want a phone that is not slim, not all glass, easy to open and easy to fix. Please, phone companies, give me at least one decent phone model, instead of all trying to imitate the garbage from Apple.
    maybe the AI is different, but I consider that to be a gimmicky waste of resources. Curved s

    I would love for just one company to announce that it will
  • concerneduser - Tuesday, November 26, 2019 - link

    This review which I want to be honest and straightfoward as possible is for the LG G7 with Android ONE.
    Let's start with the few positives about this phone. It is sturdy and the screen resolution is wonderful something important to me and the reason why I used to buy LG phones. The processor is powerful and it comes with sufficient storage even with the default card. I find the huge buttons cubersome and Andoid One as an Operating system very invasive but I admit it is a question of tastes.

    But what is the point of having a beautiful car if the engine will not start? Now an Android update renders the phone unusable and my company replaced it and told me this is a common occurence. In other words an Android update PROVIDED by the company makes the phone useless. This will not appear in any review because they used brand new phones with no updates. So basically all the time you spend transferring your data and customizing your phone is useless an Android update will scrap your phone. The retail price I paid for was$ 839. Yes it fell under their 1 year warranty. I called them they "apologized" but that's it stick with the phone and buzz off. Buyer beware I will never buy LG phones again.

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