Ouch, that price is sort of high, but if you need to plug eSATA storage devices into a modern system that lacks a port, you might not have any alternatives.
It's old an niche. If it was part of a larger TB3 docking setup I wouldn't think much of it since a lot of them have more ports than anyone would use. But when a USBA-eSATA dongle can be had for $10 I don't see this being viable vs plugging a $10 dongle into an A port already present on the laptop, on an existing hub/dock, or via an even cheaper A to C adapter into the laptop itself.
You cannot boot to Windows XP on a "modern" system, and Spyware Platform 10 boots fine from USB, unless it's the Spring Creators Bastardization Edition for Psychos because that one Bluescreens on any port (hence the delay)
You're trying too hard with this latest trolling attempt. Ah, the things I could teach you if I felt like you had the capacity to comprehend, but anyway start with realizing that you need to be more subtle.
Only speed - but probably will only see it significantly with USB-C Gen 2 - I believe eSATA is 6GB and Gen 2 is 10G. But TB3 is up to 40GB
I would think the best way is with enclosure for m2 SSD. I have a USB-C Gen2 version. But once it cheap for TB3 would be even better - especially if allows TB3 pass thru.
Isn't Sata 3 6Gbps? and USB 3.1 Gen 2 (god I have typing that, just call it USB 3.5 or USB 4) is 10Gbps. So unless you're planning to use the aforementioned port adapter, this doesn't make much sense.
So yeah, expensive, niche, if you need this you already know.
Yes that is what I mean - this adapter is not necessary unless you have an existing eSata device that you want to connect to TB3. I had an enclosure that had eSata but never used - so it better to go for a USB-C enclosure and settle for 10Gbs
But would be awesome now that TB3 is getting more popular and yes less expensive, is somebody come out with true TB3 enclosure with full speed for m2SSD's - such drives are available but for $500 or so ( usually Apple related )
The only benefit I can see is that it gives you a PCIe connected SATA controller. So you can issue ATA commands like Secure Erase directly to the device.
The PCIe 2.0 x1 back end of the ASM1061 would be the performance limiting factor here, potentially making it slower than some of the inexpensive USB 3.0 to eSATA adapters on the market.
Yeah well, I’ve got a stack of SATA SSDs that I want to secure erase, but I don’t have a desktop rig handy. A USB adapter is no good to me in this situation. I also don’t feel like cracking open an iMac or any of my old laptops that still have SATA interfaces. So this adapter does have a niche, albeit a narrow one.
Um, no. The point is to securely erase the drive, restore performance (as much as is possible) to its original state, and do so without pointlessly writing to the drive and thereby reducing its useful life. Not only is Secure Erase much quicker, but in some cases it’s the only effective method. Try zeroing our an old drive with a SandForce controller, for instance.
Killdisk will securely erase the drive, restore performance (as much as is possible) to its original state, and do so without pointlessly reducing its useful life.
I have already used Killdisk over 300 times on a cheap $8 Silicon Power thumb drive using Toshiba Nand without destroying it and will finally give up trying after I hit 350 wipes sometime this summer
I have used Killdisk on every type of SSD and thumb drive I own without any problems
The media reports of destroying the Nand cells prematurely appear heavily exaggerated
Try it on a cheap worthless thumb drive if you doubt me
Fake news of wearing out your nand is easily debunked when you do your own testing
Netstor makes a Thunderbolt 3 to dual M.2 NVMe device, but it’s pretty annoying that there isn’t anything in the way of a compact, bus-powered, PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe external chassis available.
Making one that works over USB instead of Thunderbolt would require an affordable, low-power, PCIe / NVMe to USB bridge chip. The soon to be released Titan Ridge Thunderbolt controllers allegedly provide some degree of bridging when connected to a conventional USB host, but we’ll have to wait and see how the actual implementation turns out.
Killdisk will securely erase the drive, restore performance (as much as is possible) to its original state, and do so without pointlessly reducing its useful life.
I have already used Killdisk over 300 times on a cheap $8 Silicon Power thumb drive using Toshiba Nand without destroying it and will finally give up trying after I hit 350 wipes sometime this summer
I have used Killdisk on every type of SSD and thumb drive I own without any problems
The media reports of destroying the Nand cells prematurely appear heavily exaggerated
Try it on a cheap worthless thumb drive if you doubt me
Fake news of wearing out your nand is easily debunked when you do your own testing
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PeachNCream - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Ouch, that price is sort of high, but if you need to plug eSATA storage devices into a modern system that lacks a port, you might not have any alternatives.crimsonson - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Is eSATA still that prevalent to make this viable?DanNeely - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
It's old an niche. If it was part of a larger TB3 docking setup I wouldn't think much of it since a lot of them have more ports than anyone would use. But when a USBA-eSATA dongle can be had for $10 I don't see this being viable vs plugging a $10 dongle into an A port already present on the laptop, on an existing hub/dock, or via an even cheaper A to C adapter into the laptop itself.ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Why would you want eSATA on a "modern" system?You cannot boot to Windows XP on a "modern" system, and Spyware Platform 10 boots fine from USB, unless it's the Spring Creators Bastardization Edition for Psychos because that one Bluescreens on any port (hence the delay)
PeachNCream - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
You're trying too hard with this latest trolling attempt. Ah, the things I could teach you if I felt like you had the capacity to comprehend, but anyway start with realizing that you need to be more subtle.ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
It is not trolling and you cannot teach me anything about eSATA that I don't already knowI already have the following SATA and eSATA cables to use any eSATA drive externally >
eSATA to SATA cable
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N...
SATA + Power cable
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N...
eSATA + Power adapter
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N...
I also have portable 2.5" drive cases that will boot to either eSATA or USB
I can use ANY 5 Volt - 2.5" or 12 Volt-3.5" eSATA drive externally on any of my computers
and now, so can YOU!
Learning is Fundamental
ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
If you are having problems using your eSATA drive, simply remove it from its drive case and use the SATA portmisel228 - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
There are USB3 to eSATA adapters for way less than that. I wonder what advantages a thunderbolt brings.HStewart - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Only speed - but probably will only see it significantly with USB-C Gen 2 - I believe eSATA is 6GB and Gen 2 is 10G. But TB3 is up to 40GBI would think the best way is with enclosure for m2 SSD. I have a USB-C Gen2 version. But once it cheap for TB3 would be even better - especially if allows TB3 pass thru.
Flunk - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Isn't Sata 3 6Gbps? and USB 3.1 Gen 2 (god I have typing that, just call it USB 3.5 or USB 4) is 10Gbps. So unless you're planning to use the aforementioned port adapter, this doesn't make much sense.So yeah, expensive, niche, if you need this you already know.
HStewart - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Yes that is what I mean - this adapter is not necessary unless you have an existing eSata device that you want to connect to TB3. I had an enclosure that had eSata but never used - so it better to go for a USB-C enclosure and settle for 10GbsBut would be awesome now that TB3 is getting more popular and yes less expensive, is somebody come out with true TB3 enclosure with full speed for m2SSD's - such drives are available but for $500 or so ( usually Apple related )
repoman27 - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
The only benefit I can see is that it gives you a PCIe connected SATA controller. So you can issue ATA commands like Secure Erase directly to the device.The PCIe 2.0 x1 back end of the ASM1061 would be the performance limiting factor here, potentially making it slower than some of the inexpensive USB 3.0 to eSATA adapters on the market.
ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Most people will just pull the drive out of the eSATA case and use a USB 3.0 to SATA adapter (not eSATA)I have zero uses for eSATA on "modern" hardware, but maybe Peaches can enlighten us as to why this overpriced gadget is useful
Teach us Peaches!
repoman27 - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Yeah well, I’ve got a stack of SATA SSDs that I want to secure erase, but I don’t have a desktop rig handy. A USB adapter is no good to me in this situation. I also don’t feel like cracking open an iMac or any of my old laptops that still have SATA interfaces. So this adapter does have a niche, albeit a narrow one.And don’t be talking trash about the teaches of peaches... https://youtu.be/EpDmklLFXVc
ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
I have a couple of these USB to SATA adapters as well and they work fine for securely wiping SSD'shttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N...
Killdisk takes a bit longer than the SSD's secure erase function but they are wiped securely and that was the point, right?
repoman27 - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Um, no. The point is to securely erase the drive, restore performance (as much as is possible) to its original state, and do so without pointlessly writing to the drive and thereby reducing its useful life. Not only is Secure Erase much quicker, but in some cases it’s the only effective method. Try zeroing our an old drive with a SandForce controller, for instance.ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Wednesday, April 18, 2018 - link
Yes of courseKilldisk will securely erase the drive, restore performance (as much as is possible) to its original state, and do so without pointlessly reducing its useful life.
I have already used Killdisk over 300 times on a cheap $8 Silicon Power thumb drive using Toshiba Nand without destroying it and will finally give up trying after I hit 350 wipes sometime this summer
I have used Killdisk on every type of SSD and thumb drive I own without any problems
The media reports of destroying the Nand cells prematurely appear heavily exaggerated
Try it on a cheap worthless thumb drive if you doubt me
Fake news of wearing out your nand is easily debunked when you do your own testing
(Crap - double post)
galfert - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
When will we see a USB-C to M.2 NVMe adapter? That is what I really want.ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Try Google!Works for me
repoman27 - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link
Netstor makes a Thunderbolt 3 to dual M.2 NVMe device, but it’s pretty annoying that there isn’t anything in the way of a compact, bus-powered, PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe external chassis available.Making one that works over USB instead of Thunderbolt would require an affordable, low-power, PCIe / NVMe to USB bridge chip. The soon to be released Titan Ridge Thunderbolt controllers allegedly provide some degree of bridging when connected to a conventional USB host, but we’ll have to wait and see how the actual implementation turns out.
ಬುಲ್ವಿಂಕಲ್ ಜೆ ಮೂಸ್ - Wednesday, April 18, 2018 - link
Yes of courseKilldisk will securely erase the drive, restore performance (as much as is possible) to its original state, and do so without pointlessly reducing its useful life.
I have already used Killdisk over 300 times on a cheap $8 Silicon Power thumb drive using Toshiba Nand without destroying it and will finally give up trying after I hit 350 wipes sometime this summer
I have used Killdisk on every type of SSD and thumb drive I own without any problems
The media reports of destroying the Nand cells prematurely appear heavily exaggerated
Try it on a cheap worthless thumb drive if you doubt me
Fake news of wearing out your nand is easily debunked when you do your own testing
Vinayancho - Monday, April 23, 2018 - link
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