HP's done it again, now everything is ZBook. They did it before, took a successful high-end branding and slapped in on everything, eroding that brand into nothing. Just like Envy and Pavilion lines. This strategy didn't work before, why would it work now?
P.S. the actual notebooks look OK, it's the branding that doesn't make any sense. It's like the gaming motherboards, if you slap some name on everything it means nothing.
The 17" ZBook continues the 'fine' high-design tradition of slapping a horrible cramped shallow-key 15.6" keyboard onto an over-sized chassis, and calling it a day well spent. Really, HP - it just *reeks* of high-performance engineering and laser-like attention to detail and quality... Oh, the 900p display option on a 17" form-factor also tickles me pink. But hey, at least they aren't offering any 16:10 or, heaven help us, 3:4 display options - it's such a relief that content-creation professionals are once again freed from the burden of working with adequate screens...
P.S. just to add - they put such blatant garbage out and then wonder, why the 17" form factor is not all that popular any more. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy...
Who makes a detachable tablet/laptop 16:9, and with such huge bezels?
This is why laptops will die and so will Windows. You pay through the nose to get antiquated designs while iOS and Android stuff give you cutting edge tech and battery life and design for less than half the price. I wish productivity and more hardcore gaming would go towards one or both so I can ditch the vastly inferior and overpriced Windows ecosystem.
You mean half price for tiny fraction of capabilities? What a bargain... If all you need is iToy then no wonder why you wrote that hilariously wrong comment.
Wait, what? iOS I can kinda-sorta get (though not really), but Android? Name me one decent Android tablet with current hardware that isn't grossly outmatched by phones at the same price or less.
While I entirely agree about the aspect ratio - 16:9 at anything below 27" can die tomorrow and I'd be extatic - comparing even the Surface Pro to mobile OS tablets just shows that you haven't needed one for any kind of demanding work. The iPad Pro line is reportedly good, and Apple's hardware is amazing, but iOS hobbles it so bad it's nigh on worthless.
You have all sorts of other details, but for the zBook 2 pen you only have " HP includes the ZBook x2 pen, supporting 4000 pressure points." What sort of pen is it?
The Pen is similar to one that is for XPS 15 2in1 - it uses Wacom AES 2.0 technology and allows you to have pressure points when drawing. So the harder you press - the thicker it paints on screen. Good for applications like Photoshop.
Did you get a chance to do any actual "hands-on" use of the Zbook X2? Myself and another person who own the latest quad core model are discovering that the Pen, advertised by HP as "almost zero latency" actually has considerable lag when drawing quickly. The issue clears up if HP's Create Control panel is uninstalled, but that also disables Zbook X2 quick Keys on each side of the screen?
All looks great, but - probably not big deal, but no Core i9? Dell has that option. - for 17" I would love to have 2K (2560x1440) display, but there seems to be nobody offering such... Looking for my next workstation.
jsyrovat-- i9 (which is an overclockable chip mainly for gaming) isn't used because the Xeon is offered as the upper level choice above the top i7. As far as your wanting a 2560 X 1440, I am certain that Lenovo offers that display on some systems. Check out the ThinkPad X1 Yoga (3rd Gen) (part of the line of Thinkpads). My recollection is it is found in other models as well.
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Well, you could loan it to me for a couple months so I could get a feel for what sacrifices might have to be made as a dyed-in-the-wool Tablet-PC (Penabled/EMR/proper-digitizer+capable-convertible) user. I'll even fill it with uh 'extended-trial' specialty software and weird datahoard caches of all sorts that you can keep, a little bit of everything save code, animation and video-editing. If I really, 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 like it, I'll buy it cash at a fair-plus rate! I'm getting awfully tired of waiting for the few manufacturers of proper Tablet-PCs to start thinking about workstation-like capability rather than stupid cosmetic trends but the AES stylus world is repulsive, and I can't just rent one. Lole, maybe I can after all
Wow, my reading-comprehension is particularly off this morning, ignore me; though I'd sure like the monitor you won, I wrote thinking you had, you know, one of the machines the article is about. So sorry, and wish I could find a way to delete my reply, but screw it.
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Flunk - Thursday, April 5, 2018 - link
HP's done it again, now everything is ZBook. They did it before, took a successful high-end branding and slapped in on everything, eroding that brand into nothing. Just like Envy and Pavilion lines. This strategy didn't work before, why would it work now?P.S. the actual notebooks look OK, it's the branding that doesn't make any sense. It's like the gaming motherboards, if you slap some name on everything it means nothing.
beginner99 - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
It still works really because were I work I only can get HP. No dell, no MS surface and anything none windows is out of the question anyway.boeush - Thursday, April 5, 2018 - link
The 17" ZBook continues the 'fine' high-design tradition of slapping a horrible cramped shallow-key 15.6" keyboard onto an over-sized chassis, and calling it a day well spent. Really, HP - it just *reeks* of high-performance engineering and laser-like attention to detail and quality... Oh, the 900p display option on a 17" form-factor also tickles me pink. But hey, at least they aren't offering any 16:10 or, heaven help us, 3:4 display options - it's such a relief that content-creation professionals are once again freed from the burden of working with adequate screens...boeush - Thursday, April 5, 2018 - link
P.S. just to add - they put such blatant garbage out and then wonder, why the 17" form factor is not all that popular any more. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy...sibuna - Thursday, April 5, 2018 - link
16:10 is better than 16:9Manch - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
whoooshMixal11 - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
Agreed. I would pay extra for 1680x1050Lolimaster - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
Once you used a CRT @1600x1200, 1080p wide feels so small and restrictive...Lolimaster - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
@100Hz on my Dell TrinitronMrSpadge - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
You might want to recalibrate your sarcasm detector ;)Frenetic Pony - Thursday, April 5, 2018 - link
Who makes a detachable tablet/laptop 16:9, and with such huge bezels?This is why laptops will die and so will Windows. You pay through the nose to get antiquated designs while iOS and Android stuff give you cutting edge tech and battery life and design for less than half the price. I wish productivity and more hardcore gaming would go towards one or both so I can ditch the vastly inferior and overpriced Windows ecosystem.
Klimax - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
You mean half price for tiny fraction of capabilities? What a bargain...If all you need is iToy then no wonder why you wrote that hilariously wrong comment.
Valantar - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
Wait, what? iOS I can kinda-sorta get (though not really), but Android? Name me one decent Android tablet with current hardware that isn't grossly outmatched by phones at the same price or less.While I entirely agree about the aspect ratio - 16:9 at anything below 27" can die tomorrow and I'd be extatic - comparing even the Surface Pro to mobile OS tablets just shows that you haven't needed one for any kind of demanding work. The iPad Pro line is reportedly good, and Apple's hardware is amazing, but iOS hobbles it so bad it's nigh on worthless.
grahad - Thursday, April 5, 2018 - link
What in the world is a Dream Colour USB port??Tams80 - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
You have all sorts of other details, but for the zBook 2 pen you only have " HP includes the ZBook x2 pen, supporting 4000 pressure points." What sort of pen is it?Really?! Come on AnandTech.
HStewart - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
The Pen is similar to one that is for XPS 15 2in1 - it uses Wacom AES 2.0 technology and allows you to have pressure points when drawing. So the harder you press - the thicker it paints on screen. Good for applications like Photoshop.HStewart - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
It is interesting that HP ignore the 980xG like the Dell XPS 15 2in1 but one thing x360 is much bigger but has option for 6 Core Xeon and QuadroWell I wondering if I made a bad decision with XPS 15 2in1
zugok - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link
Anton and Joe.Did you get a chance to do any actual "hands-on" use of the Zbook X2? Myself and another person who own the latest quad core model are discovering that the Pen, advertised by HP as "almost zero latency" actually has considerable lag when drawing quickly. The issue clears up if HP's Create Control panel is uninstalled, but that also disables Zbook X2 quick Keys on each side of the screen?
Resetting windows does not help...
Lolimaster - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
Do they still not realize why pointless and restrictive is to have 16:9 on small screens?16:10 should be the way to go and 3:2 for convertibles.
jsyrovat - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
All looks great, but- probably not big deal, but no Core i9? Dell has that option.
- for 17" I would love to have 2K (2560x1440) display, but there seems to be nobody offering such...
Looking for my next workstation.
Skyhermit - Wednesday, April 25, 2018 - link
jsyrovat-- i9 (which is an overclockable chip mainly for gaming) isn't used because the Xeon is offered as the upper level choice above the top i7. As far as your wanting a 2560 X 1440, I am certain that Lenovo offers that display on some systems. Check out the ThinkPad X1 Yoga (3rd Gen) (part of the line of Thinkpads). My recollection is it is found in other models as well.houseboat - Friday, April 13, 2018 - link
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Hp is known for its product quality. And continuously upgrading its product. Now in market zbook. Thanks for your useful information. For more visit https://quickbooksupports.co/ .David manks - Sunday, May 6, 2018 - link
My girlfriend won the Z27x G2 at the NAB show but we are both audio engineers so we have no clue what to do with the thing?DSGT_Crockett - Monday, May 14, 2018 - link
Well, you could loan it to me for a couple months so I could get a feel for what sacrifices might have to be made as a dyed-in-the-wool Tablet-PC (Penabled/EMR/proper-digitizer+capable-convertible) user. I'll even fill it with uh 'extended-trial' specialty software and weird datahoard caches of all sorts that you can keep, a little bit of everything save code, animation and video-editing. If I really, 𝕣𝕖𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕪 like it, I'll buy it cash at a fair-plus rate! I'm getting awfully tired of waiting for the few manufacturers of proper Tablet-PCs to start thinking about workstation-like capability rather than stupid cosmetic trends but the AES stylus world is repulsive, and I can't just rent one. Lole, maybe I can after allDSGT_Crockett - Monday, May 14, 2018 - link
Wow, my reading-comprehension is particularly off this morning, ignore me; though I'd sure like the monitor you won, I wrote thinking you had, you know, one of the machines the article is about. So sorry, and wish I could find a way to delete my reply, but screw it.David manks - Friday, May 18, 2018 - link
I’m willing to sell the thing but idk what I could even ask