Seeing the reports on this preview Google is one more step closer to iOS.
Nerfed the DND mode, Quick Tiles is bad now gone is the material design, iOS style cards, lost the card stacks everything is rounded, blazing white so bright (even Google Play Apps) that it would burn your retina. Killed the hidden APIs, hiding away options adding more steps - settings gear notif shade, force stop, Quick tiles expansion one click handy UI is gone ( tap on BT for more options, WiFi, etc, Nougat had battery graph it was killed in Oreo and now everything is killed). Substratum RRO theming without Root is dead.
I'm afraid what's Google thinking about, pastel colors added. Its more iOS looking than Android...
Oh that Hard API is very bad. You need to target this OS no matter what because one less version won't be Oreo it will be 9.0, because 9.x will be there for sure. Enforcing like Apple if you want to be on Play Store. Slowly walls are raising, inevitableness..
I don't see the problem with forcing developers to target the latest API level. Nothing's worse than seeing new apps that still use pre-MM permissions for example. Target API level does not mean minimum API level.
Yes, so basically an iOS clone, but without the regular updates. Oreo has < 2% adoption rate 6 months after release! That's just pathetic.
2-3 years ago I wouldn't have even considered switching to Apple/iOS, but seeing how security is becoming more and more of a problem, my next phone will most likely be an iPhone.
Maybe I have the wrong friends, but all of them usually hate the 2nd iOS update to their phone and all subsequent ones. The first one is usually fine and adds speed and features, but the ones targeting the new devices slow thing down for them and give crashes and reboots. But all without the ability to go back a version, because of the walled garden. My wife meanwhile is quite happy with her Chinese Android 5 smartphone without reboots which only gets used for facebook and messaging.
The small notch on my Essential is perfectly fine and just uses the space which is wasted anyway (between left-aligned and right-aligned icons on the status bar).
I raise to you my notification bar, which is overflowing entirely too often: https://i.imgur.com/2e1ezMo.jpg . As I said on the ars article: give me a notch and a second line of notifications, great. Take away 30-60% of my already insufficient notification space? fuckoff.
They basically measure distance; similar to when you look at (conventional) thermometer, you measure temperature by observing height of mercury column.
so they could not even fully figure out battery drain for nougat 7.1-7.1.1, no method of having a way to "restore" when a user discovers the OS update did not work for their device (considering seems take forever for it to install the damn update, a restore function would add what maybe 60mb at most big whoop) cannot auto clear cache partition when the new OS update is released (why is beyond me seeing as THEY give this as a first recommended step for potential battery drain issues on EACH update) etc etc..
Seems to me they are more concerned with getting new updates out as fast as they possibly can to sell new phones that will use them vs making sure they are "bulletproof" releases.
Simple example, with 6.x.x many speaker booster worked awesome for my phone, a few months later a "security patch" made these same boosters no longer work and the few that did were very laggy and often used a whack more battery life, 7.0/7.1.1 was ever more so worse, took a very long time to release it, when they finally did, many "simple things" were broken, fugly, or quite unresponsive (not just on my phone but quite literally for hundreds of thousands of others as well)
If we are "forced" to upgrade the OS and use often quite cruddy baseline software, at least make sure it works properly you $#%@#$% >:(
Meh, A57 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I mean it's still fine for me, I wouldn't mind something newer, this fall (the 3 year mark, for me).
...but the current crop of Google Fi phones are way more expensive. My 5X feels like the bargain of the century, compared with anything they have now. They finally just marked down the Moto X^4 to the same price as my 5X (down to $250 from $400!) and it's only got A53 cores! WTF? That would've been a bad deal when I bought my 5X, not to mention 2.5 years later!
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Quantumz0d - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
Seeing the reports on this preview Google is one more step closer to iOS.Nerfed the DND mode, Quick Tiles is bad now gone is the material design, iOS style cards, lost the card stacks everything is rounded, blazing white so bright (even Google Play Apps) that it would burn your retina. Killed the hidden APIs, hiding away options adding more steps - settings gear notif shade, force stop, Quick tiles expansion one click handy UI is gone ( tap on BT for more options, WiFi, etc, Nougat had battery graph it was killed in Oreo and now everything is killed). Substratum RRO theming without Root is dead.
I'm afraid what's Google thinking about, pastel colors added. Its more iOS looking than Android...
Quantumz0d - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
Oh that Hard API is very bad. You need to target this OS no matter what because one less version won't be Oreo it will be 9.0, because 9.x will be there for sure. Enforcing like Apple if you want to be on Play Store. Slowly walls are raising, inevitableness..Trixanity - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
I don't see the problem with forcing developers to target the latest API level. Nothing's worse than seeing new apps that still use pre-MM permissions for example.Target API level does not mean minimum API level.
saratoga4 - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
>Slowly walls are raising, inevitableness.The requirement that new apps support the lastest API version is hardly a wall.
nirolf - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
Yes, so basically an iOS clone, but without the regular updates. Oreo has < 2% adoption rate 6 months after release! That's just pathetic.2-3 years ago I wouldn't have even considered switching to Apple/iOS, but seeing how security is becoming more and more of a problem, my next phone will most likely be an iPhone.
peevee - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
Even Essential is yet to release Oreo build.The Android "community" is SO screwed up...
shabby - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
Didn't they say they would release oreo quickly?blakeatwork - Friday, March 9, 2018 - link
I think Essentials said they're skipping Oreo, and going directly to P.blakeatwork - Friday, March 9, 2018 - link
Nope, never mind; they're skipping 8.0, going with 8.1.Death666Angel - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
Maybe I have the wrong friends, but all of them usually hate the 2nd iOS update to their phone and all subsequent ones. The first one is usually fine and adds speed and features, but the ones targeting the new devices slow thing down for them and give crashes and reboots. But all without the ability to go back a version, because of the walled garden. My wife meanwhile is quite happy with her Chinese Android 5 smartphone without reboots which only gets used for facebook and messaging.Sttm - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
The Notch is a terrible idea, it is hideous design, and just because Apple did something doesn't make it good!Glad at least Samsung isn't jumping on that stupid train!
peevee - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
The small notch on my Essential is perfectly fine and just uses the space which is wasted anyway (between left-aligned and right-aligned icons on the status bar).ZeDestructor - Friday, March 9, 2018 - link
I raise to you my notification bar, which is overflowing entirely too often: https://i.imgur.com/2e1ezMo.jpg . As I said on the ars article: give me a notch and a second line of notifications, great. Take away 30-60% of my already insufficient notification space? fuckoff.blakeatwork - Friday, March 9, 2018 - link
That's a busy notification bar; what all are you monitoring?AlexTi - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
...Having 3 or more APs in distance means the device can triangulate its relative position ...That is called trilateration, not triangulation (which would mean measuring direction, not distance)
Yojimbo - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
But they are measuring time. Maybe then it should be called tritemporation?AlexTi - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
They basically measure distance; similar to when you look at (conventional) thermometer, you measure temperature by observing height of mercury column.And you cannot measure angle via time anyway.
Dragonstongue - Thursday, March 8, 2018 - link
so they could not even fully figure out battery drain for nougat 7.1-7.1.1, no method of having a way to "restore" when a user discovers the OS update did not work for their device (considering seems take forever for it to install the damn update, a restore function would add what maybe 60mb at most big whoop) cannot auto clear cache partition when the new OS update is released (why is beyond me seeing as THEY give this as a first recommended step for potential battery drain issues on EACH update) etc etc..Seems to me they are more concerned with getting new updates out as fast as they possibly can to sell new phones that will use them vs making sure they are "bulletproof" releases.
Simple example, with 6.x.x many speaker booster worked awesome for my phone, a few months later a "security patch" made these same boosters no longer work and the few that did were very laggy and often used a whack more battery life, 7.0/7.1.1 was ever more so worse, took a very long time to release it, when they finally did, many "simple things" were broken, fugly, or quite unresponsive (not just on my phone but quite literally for hundreds of thousands of others as well)
If we are "forced" to upgrade the OS and use often quite cruddy baseline software, at least make sure it works properly you $#%@#$% >:(
pixelstuff - Friday, March 9, 2018 - link
Well here's hoping the final product will still eventually roll out to Nexus devices even if the preview isn't targeting them right now.ezridah - Friday, March 9, 2018 - link
Doesn't look like that will be happening.https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/03/google-end...
mode_13h - Sunday, March 11, 2018 - link
Meh, A57 is getting a bit long in the tooth. I mean it's still fine for me, I wouldn't mind something newer, this fall (the 3 year mark, for me)....but the current crop of Google Fi phones are way more expensive. My 5X feels like the bargain of the century, compared with anything they have now. They finally just marked down the Moto X^4 to the same price as my 5X (down to $250 from $400!) and it's only got A53 cores! WTF? That would've been a bad deal when I bought my 5X, not to mention 2.5 years later!
Jacob Groot - Monday, April 16, 2018 - link
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