Over, easy. You'll get to $8k on just the combined price of 16 2TB Crucial MX500 drives. All that combined, with a SAS connection at like 1/4 the height?
Yeah, it's not gonna be cheap. I'll be amazed if it's under $20k.
I'll take the over as well. We spend about $2,500 for 1.92TB read intensive drives for our vSAN environment now. This drive is 16x the capacity which works out to $40,000 for same number of drives to get the same capacity.
If this drive is even $30,000 it's a bargain compared to current offerings particularly considering the performance numbers.
To think about multiple disk groups of 3.84 write intensive cache drives in front of two 30.72 capacity drives in a hyperconverged environment with significant cost savings over what we can do currently. I could eliminate all other storage in my data center.
Anything under $40,000 is amazing.
$7,500 is something who doesn't do data center considers as a price point (no offense intended to the OP - they just don't understand or deal with data center capacities).
I'd take one for fifty bucks. I don't think Samsung's really thought this through. Most home users don't have SAS controllers, and add-on cards are SO 1999.
(110% not serious here... except that I WOULD buy one if it was fifty bucks.)
What is that weird port on the drive? It isn't he front port, you can see a SFF8482 port in the first picture but I'm referring to the port on the other side of the drive.
That's the NSA port for speedy access. They'll tell you, though, it was introduced by the Chinese or Russians. Or whoever is declared the "evil of the day".
Look at the port, it's not a SAS port, it's a NVMe port, smal NVMe drive you plug into m2 ports, the big ones like this has a NVMe cable to a many port NVMe card
The Samsung press release specifically says it is 12Gb/s SAS, not PCIe (there's no such thing as an "NVMe port", but there are PCIe ports which you can use with NVMe). The news release does not mention how many channels specifically, but most enterprise drives use a dual-channel SAS interface which means the maximum interface throughput would be closer to 2400MB/sec (SAS uses 8b/10b serial encoding which makes for convenient bandwidth-math).
Not sure how many systems can actually use both SAS ports, and that is typically used with active/standby controllers. So, the drive can do it, but the supporting system?
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anactoraaron - Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - link
So I'm putting the over/under of the 32TB drive at $7,500.mukiex - Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - link
Over, easy. You'll get to $8k on just the combined price of 16 2TB Crucial MX500 drives. All that combined, with a SAS connection at like 1/4 the height?Yeah, it's not gonna be cheap. I'll be amazed if it's under $20k.
olderkid - Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - link
I'll take the over as well. We spend about $2,500 for 1.92TB read intensive drives for our vSAN environment now. This drive is 16x the capacity which works out to $40,000 for same number of drives to get the same capacity.If this drive is even $30,000 it's a bargain compared to current offerings particularly considering the performance numbers.
To think about multiple disk groups of 3.84 write intensive cache drives in front of two 30.72 capacity drives in a hyperconverged environment with significant cost savings over what we can do currently. I could eliminate all other storage in my data center.
Anything under $40,000 is amazing.
$7,500 is something who doesn't do data center considers as a price point (no offense intended to the OP - they just don't understand or deal with data center capacities).
sonicmerlin - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
Any chance I could get this for a couple hundred? HehLord of the Bored - Thursday, February 22, 2018 - link
I'd take one for fifty bucks. I don't think Samsung's really thought this through. Most home users don't have SAS controllers, and add-on cards are SO 1999.(110% not serious here... except that I WOULD buy one if it was fifty bucks.)
cygnus1 - Thursday, February 22, 2018 - link
I would buy a lot more than 1 if it was only $50!!!Samus - Saturday, February 24, 2018 - link
...and 40GB of DDR4 (presumably ECC) alone is half a grand.This thing is a monster. I can't believe they fit all that in a nearline 2.5" 17mm chassis.
Billy Tallis - Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - link
CDW currently lists the 15TB PM1633a for $11625. The PM1643 is probably cheaper per GB, but over $20k is still plausible.Wardrop - Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - link
1.5TB per $1000 sounds about right. Quite a reasonable price in my opinion.HStewart - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
Well the 15TB drive is list for $10,000 so one expect to be more - would depend on how the 512GB chips cost.[email protected] - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
You would lose. 30TB in a 2.5" / 15mm form factor alone is amazing. Speed another. Write endurance another. 15K would be my over/under.Kevin G - Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - link
What is that weird port on the drive? It isn't he front port, you can see a SFF8482 port in the first picture but I'm referring to the port on the other side of the drive.MrSpadge - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
That's the NSA port for speedy access. They'll tell you, though, it was introduced by the Chinese or Russians. Or whoever is declared the "evil of the day"./joke
StefanR - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
RGB lighting for HEDT use ? :-Phirschma - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
That for a cable that keeps the spindles synchronized, for RAID :)XabanakFanatik - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
How is it rated at 2100MB/s read and 1700MB/s write with a single SAS 12Gb/s which would put maximum theoretical throughput at 1500MB/s?torbendalum - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
Look at the port, it's not a SAS port, it's a NVMe port, smal NVMe drive you plug into m2 ports, the big ones like this has a NVMe cable to a many port NVMe cardcdillon - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
The Samsung press release specifically says it is 12Gb/s SAS, not PCIe (there's no such thing as an "NVMe port", but there are PCIe ports which you can use with NVMe). The news release does not mention how many channels specifically, but most enterprise drives use a dual-channel SAS interface which means the maximum interface throughput would be closer to 2400MB/sec (SAS uses 8b/10b serial encoding which makes for convenient bandwidth-math).jhh - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
Not sure how many systems can actually use both SAS ports, and that is typically used with active/standby controllers. So, the drive can do it, but the supporting system?kalgriffen - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
There are active/active systems available as well.[email protected] - Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - link
2.5" 15mm form factor, 2TB write endurance for 5 years.Game changer. NSA must already have a million of these.
I would be happy with just one.
CheapSushi - Friday, February 23, 2018 - link
Looking forward to see QLC products coming out. Curious to see what Samsung will do and at what pricepoints.