People are pointing the finger at miners, but it's more than just an alternative coin mining issue. AIB partners are hesitant to make more cards because the last time GPU mining was big, GPU AIBs mostly sought to meet bigger supply to the bigger demand, only to get burned three-ways.
1) Bitcoin market crashed. This led to GPU demand faltering quickly.
2) They had already made their quarterly order to AMD/nVidia and were stuck with excess GPUs which they couldn't sell due to: a) Miner card resale market providing cheaper cards to those at lower price brackets. b) Lack of miner demand which the increased supply was supposed to meet. c) New GPU architecture releasing the next quarter, while they were still stuck on lots of old GPUs.
3) Excess of warranty claims for excess GPU supply to miners.
AIB partners would be willing to increase their quarterly orders so as to increase GPU supply to meet increased demand (due to miners) if they could _assume_ stability in the demand, which fundamentally means assuming stability in the crypto market, but stability in the crypto market is a complete and utter joke, so they're not willing to increase supply especially if next-gen GPUs might be around the corner if AMD/nVidia have an announcement by next quarter (GTX1100 series, RX600 series, etc.)
Also, GPU pricing is also being affected by 3rd party sellers wanting to take advantage of the mining demand. 3rd party marketplace sellers on Amazon marketplace, Newegg marketplace, and eBay are also scalping excess GPU stock not to mine, but just to resell to gamers willing to fork over the money, but particularly to miners which can still recoup on the purchase, but will face a longer return on investment.
Don't buy from 3rd party marketplace scalpers, they're just as guilty as miners (if not moreso, as they have no intent to even open the GPUs to use them for themselves) for draining supply from 1st party sellers, which prevents folk like you from getting rational prices.
Just wait for next gen cards, maybe. AIBs won't be shy to ramp up production of the newest stuff that miners and gamers will be sure to buy and can guarantee they won't be sitting on outdated stock.
AMD have Vega on 7nm coming this year. I wouldn't brush the move to 7nm off either is it should allow the GCN architecture to breath by hitting much higher clocks. Of course the proof is in the pudding but I expect the 7nm shrink to be a decent performance bump.
I wouldn't hold your breath if you think a simple die shrink of the same architecture is going to be "a decent bump in performance". It will be slight (~10%), as typical refreshes are.
To get a "decent bump in performance" (>20%) you have to wait till the next architecture generation. Navi/Volta in this case.
AMD has Navi. Yea, and? Vega was supposed to the "Pascal killer" and yet a 475 dollar 1070Ti matches or outperforms their 800 dollar Vega 64 at 1080/1440p in most titles LOL.
Navi will just be playing catchup to Volta anyway.
Sure, if you want to be an obtuse retard about it. I clearly explained that miner demand is merely just _one_ of many facets of the GPU pricing issue. Miner demand is no different from Gamer demand, at least in terms of how it affects supply and therefore pricing. 1 GPU bought for mining or gaming is 1 less GPU in circulation, and when there's a low enough amount of GPUs on the market, the price is going to go up.
And like I already explained, supply could be "fixed" by ordering many more cards to be produced, but because the demand isn't necessarily stable, AIB partners are hesitant to supply more on the market, because they'll be the ones on the losing end when they're stuck on supply that won't sell, should alternative coins tank in price.
Nice reading comprehension. It's a supply side issue that won't be fixed since suppliers aren't confident in the sustainability of demand. And because of that, the supply side won't be burned out (since they're running a business and generating excess supply has a large risk associated with it) and would rather let the GPU pricing handle itself in a low supply/high demand market.
There's also the GPU scalpers and 3rd party seller market making the pricing worse than they are, since they're draining supply even though they're not the end-users demanding the product. (And these guys are the ones marking up the GPU prices, not Newegg, Amazon, or most brick and mortar retailers.)
Look, I hate memecoin miners, too. They're wasting a shitload of energy to mine fictitious and worthless money to then put it on a highly volatile stock market like rollercoaster simulator, and they like to brag about how if every pleb had invested in memebucks they'd be "millionaires" when the fact of any volatile market is that very few are big winners, and most are incurring losses.
But the problem is more than just the miners themselves. There's supply side that won't ramp up production. There's 3rd party market and scalpers selling the GPUs at exorbitant prices, and even memory manufacturers like Samsung playing a part due to rising price of GDDR5(x), which increases the BOM cost for any GPU made.
If you had even a single brain cell in your head you would've understood from my post that "Oh, yeah, miners are just one piece of the problem. I get ya."
I gave up trying to convey the nuance about these issues last week. Some people just want to believe in simplistic answers so they can blame a certain group and vocally moan, even though they're often part of the problem. There are other factors aswell, such as game devs not making games more visually complicated anymore, review hype/focus on high frequency gaming & VR (driven by gamers playing mostly FPS titles and others that fit this niche), and just the basic nature of current 3D tech being a natural fit for mining algorithms (shaders, etc.) In theory there is a strong market opportunity for a completely new approach to 3D gfx, a different arch, a proper GPU (modern cards are not GPUs; their visual abilities are literally the lowest priority), because atm the cards AMD/NVIDIA are producing are far more lucratively targeted at Enterprise and AI, not gamers; the latter just get the scraps off the table now, something The Good Old Gamer nicely explained a few months ago with a pertinent clip from NVIDIA:
When was the last time a card review article even mentioned new visual features for 3D effects? It's been many years. Gamers are not playing games that need new features, they're pushing for high refresh displays (a shift enhanced by freesync/gsync adoption) so game devs aren't adding new features as that would make launch reviews look bad (we'll never have another Crysis in that way again), and meanwhile the products themselves are mathematically ideal for crypto mining tasks, a problem which makes (as the above chap says) both the AIBs and AMD/NVIDIA very reluctant to increase supply as that would create a huge supply glut once the mining craze shifts and the current cards get dumped, damaging newer product lines (miners have no brand loyalty, and AIBs can't risk the unsold stock potential, though in the meantime they'll happily sell to miners directly).
I notice toms has several articles about mining atm. I hope AT doesn't follow suit. I didn't read the articles, but I bet they don't cover the total environmental cost re the massive e-waste generated by mining conglomerates. I'd rather tech sites that say they care about their readers didn't encourage this mining craze, but then it's a bandwagon many want to jump on while the rewards appear attractive. Ironically, at least LLT is doing a piece intended to show just how much of a con some of these mining setups can be.
I bought my RX 580 for $400AUD almost a year ago. It actually hit $700 AUD at one point. Was nuts.
Normally I would buy two... But this is the first time I have gone single GPU since the Radeon x800 days where you needed a master GPU. The costs are just out of control. Glad I am only running a 1440P display so I don't need super high-end hardware.
Heck my old R9 390 would match or outperform the 980 in a good amount of titles. Which was always comical, as the 390 was supposed to compete with the 970, which it did at launch with launch drivers, but after a few months of driver improvements, it was going toe to toe with not the 970, but the 980 lol.
Either I'm just missing your sarcasm or you are dredging up 2.5 year old GPU news regarding the Fury X being faster than a GPU released 9 months before it while simultaneously ignoring that the GTX 980ti which was released 2 weeks before the Fury X was faster than the Fury X?
Sounds like another day in the world of GPUs. Anybody that thinks buying the top tier is going to stay there for much more than 6-12 months either caught the market at the absolute perfect time or is basically delusional.
You made my day... comparing the Fury X with the 980 to signa point... wait.. the new flagship Vega64 is faster than the 1050Ti!!!!!!!!! Yes, all 1050Ti owners are crying out for that result! AMD fanboys can really become ridiculous
I completely agree that the Fury X vs 980 is a bad comparison and I have no intention of defending what should not be defended.
Regarding ridiculousness however, the 980 is a single SKU below the proper competition (980Ti) and still in the same high end classification. While not the case here, there have often in the past been price disparities between the top end SKUs from ATi and nVidia that warrant such a comparison.
On the other hand, your Vega64 vs 1050Ti comparison is pitting AMDs top GPU against a card 5 SKUs below nVidia's top GPU (4 SKUs below the proper competition) and classified lower mid range at best. Then you proceed to suggest these comparisons are somehow similar and label IGTrading as a "ridiculous" AMD fanboy. IGTrading's comparison was certainly the wrong comparison, but who's more deserving of the "ridiculous fanboy" label?
That analogy doesn't really work. Maybe in 4K, but only a small fraction of users are at 4K right now. The majority are in 1080/1440p and at those resolutions, the 1070Ti is not only trading blows, but sometimes outperforming not the Vega 56 it was meant to compete against, but the 800 dollar Vega 64.
...the Lights and Sensors and the weirdest graphics card cosmetics I've ever seen. Why didn't EVGA use the new 1080 ti shrouds? Whatever, I've gone without Pascal this long I'm waiting for Volta.
I'm confused on that as well. It's got a half-hearted Tron sorta thing going on with the light diffusers, but then has the steampunk rivet looking screw things, then the dollar store electronics looking badges laid over and blocking two of the lights...
Once again: I don't really care about the max fps achieved by these cards, although nice to have, as I'm FAR more interested in the minimum rates. Can the cards maintain a healthy 60 fps, at all times, or do they dip (it low)? Etc.
A 970 would have been a nice addition to the benchmarks, since it was an incredibly common gaming card and the 1070 family is the logical upgrade path.
Same, I bought one for S550 just before Christmas. The funny thing is that I wasn't planning on a 1080, I wanted the 1070 but the price difference was only $50, probably because it was already being affected by the shortage.
Seeing I was replacing a 6yo HD 7970, I'd say it's a good thing I didn't wait any longer.
Man, I was GOING to upgrade back in early December, but I didn't like the pricing situation and was gonna wait a week or two for the next funnybux crash to drive prices back down. ... Yeah, that didn't work out so well.
I had been looking at the price for the GTX 1070/1070ti/1080 VEGA56/64 since early November. It's only the week before Christmas that I saw a slight price drop on some of the GTX 1080 on Amazon.ca. I was lucky enough to get a MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G for $550.
By the time I installed it a week later, it was already back above $700... and it only got worst from that point on.
I really hope your current card isn't as old as my 7970 was.
The funny/sad thing for me now is that I'm still only using a good old 12 yo 22" 1680x1050 monitor and almost all of the good 27" 2560x1440 are sold out near me right now :(.
I was still using my GTX580 until last week when it finally died. I got a 950 from a coworker for $40, and it's doing okay, the fan is very loud. I was looking forward to getting a 1080Ti, but there is no way in heck that I'm going to pay current prices.
I've got a Radeon 380, 4 gig. I wouldn't even be looking to update right now if I hadn't grabbed a Rift during the summer sale. That bumped me just outside my comfort zone, which is a shame since it turns out I REALLY like VR.
Oh well, it is still servicable. I can stalling for a little more time.
The 1070Ti is marketed to compete with the Vega 56? Heck, in a good bit of these benchmarks, esp at 1440p, the 1070Ti is neck and neck with not the Vega 56, but the Vega 64, which is almost 2x the price LOL.
And yet as of writing this, AMD still has the 56 at $630 and the 64 at $800. Just bought a GTX 1070Ti for $475 2 days ago to replace my R9 390 that just died.
I want what AMD is smoking. For the current price of a Vega 64, you can get a 1080Ti lol. Or you can save a few hundred and get a $475 1070Ti that matches or outperforms Vega 64 at 1080/1440p in most titles hahaha.
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Dr. Swag - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Oh cool! Anandtech finally reviews some aftermarket gpus!If only we could actually, you know, buy them.
sharath.naik - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Whats with the gpu prices?!! I had bought 1080 ti for 660$ 8 months back, today its 1400$+, when trying to get a second one.Hereiam2005 - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
I bought mine last week for 750$. Its a shitty 1080ti, the gigabyte gaming oc version, but it is much cheaper than other models.Dr. Swag - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Miners.JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Supply/Demand.People are pointing the finger at miners, but it's more than just an alternative coin mining issue. AIB partners are hesitant to make more cards because the last time GPU mining was big, GPU AIBs mostly sought to meet bigger supply to the bigger demand, only to get burned three-ways.
1) Bitcoin market crashed. This led to GPU demand faltering quickly.
2) They had already made their quarterly order to AMD/nVidia and were stuck with excess GPUs which they couldn't sell due to:
a) Miner card resale market providing cheaper cards to those at lower price brackets.
b) Lack of miner demand which the increased supply was supposed to meet.
c) New GPU architecture releasing the next quarter, while they were still stuck on lots of old GPUs.
3) Excess of warranty claims for excess GPU supply to miners.
AIB partners would be willing to increase their quarterly orders so as to increase GPU supply to meet increased demand (due to miners) if they could _assume_ stability in the demand, which fundamentally means assuming stability in the crypto market, but stability in the crypto market is a complete and utter joke, so they're not willing to increase supply especially if next-gen GPUs might be around the corner if AMD/nVidia have an announcement by next quarter (GTX1100 series, RX600 series, etc.)
JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Also, GPU pricing is also being affected by 3rd party sellers wanting to take advantage of the mining demand. 3rd party marketplace sellers on Amazon marketplace, Newegg marketplace, and eBay are also scalping excess GPU stock not to mine, but just to resell to gamers willing to fork over the money, but particularly to miners which can still recoup on the purchase, but will face a longer return on investment.Don't buy from 3rd party marketplace scalpers, they're just as guilty as miners (if not moreso, as they have no intent to even open the GPUs to use them for themselves) for draining supply from 1st party sellers, which prevents folk like you from getting rational prices.
Just wait for next gen cards, maybe. AIBs won't be shy to ramp up production of the newest stuff that miners and gamers will be sure to buy and can guarantee they won't be sitting on outdated stock.
Pinn - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Nvidia has volta, but AMD has nothing next-gen for awhile.VulkanMan - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
AMD has Navi.CiccioB - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
Coming in 2019FreckledTrout - Wednesday, February 7, 2018 - link
AMD have Vega on 7nm coming this year. I wouldn't brush the move to 7nm off either is it should allow the GCN architecture to breath by hitting much higher clocks. Of course the proof is in the pudding but I expect the 7nm shrink to be a decent performance bump.DnaAngel - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link
I wouldn't hold your breath if you think a simple die shrink of the same architecture is going to be "a decent bump in performance". It will be slight (~10%), as typical refreshes are.To get a "decent bump in performance" (>20%) you have to wait till the next architecture generation. Navi/Volta in this case.
DnaAngel - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
AMD has Navi. Yea, and? Vega was supposed to the "Pascal killer" and yet a 475 dollar 1070Ti matches or outperforms their 800 dollar Vega 64 at 1080/1440p in most titles LOL.Navi will just be playing catchup to Volta anyway.
Hixbot - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
Soo.. what you're saying is mining is the problem. OK got it.JoeyJoJo123 - Monday, February 5, 2018 - link
Sure, if you want to be an obtuse retard about it. I clearly explained that miner demand is merely just _one_ of many facets of the GPU pricing issue. Miner demand is no different from Gamer demand, at least in terms of how it affects supply and therefore pricing. 1 GPU bought for mining or gaming is 1 less GPU in circulation, and when there's a low enough amount of GPUs on the market, the price is going to go up.And like I already explained, supply could be "fixed" by ordering many more cards to be produced, but because the demand isn't necessarily stable, AIB partners are hesitant to supply more on the market, because they'll be the ones on the losing end when they're stuck on supply that won't sell, should alternative coins tank in price.
Tetracycloide - Friday, February 2, 2018 - link
TLDR of your 3 point explanation is simply "Miners." All the things you've said are just extra details of how "Miners" is the explanation.JoeyJoJo123 - Monday, February 5, 2018 - link
Nice reading comprehension. It's a supply side issue that won't be fixed since suppliers aren't confident in the sustainability of demand. And because of that, the supply side won't be burned out (since they're running a business and generating excess supply has a large risk associated with it) and would rather let the GPU pricing handle itself in a low supply/high demand market.There's also the GPU scalpers and 3rd party seller market making the pricing worse than they are, since they're draining supply even though they're not the end-users demanding the product. (And these guys are the ones marking up the GPU prices, not Newegg, Amazon, or most brick and mortar retailers.)
Look, I hate memecoin miners, too. They're wasting a shitload of energy to mine fictitious and worthless money to then put it on a highly volatile stock market like rollercoaster simulator, and they like to brag about how if every pleb had invested in memebucks they'd be "millionaires" when the fact of any volatile market is that very few are big winners, and most are incurring losses.
But the problem is more than just the miners themselves. There's supply side that won't ramp up production. There's 3rd party market and scalpers selling the GPUs at exorbitant prices, and even memory manufacturers like Samsung playing a part due to rising price of GDDR5(x), which increases the BOM cost for any GPU made.
If you had even a single brain cell in your head you would've understood from my post that "Oh, yeah, miners are just one piece of the problem. I get ya."
mapesdhs - Tuesday, February 6, 2018 - link
I gave up trying to convey the nuance about these issues last week. Some people just want to believe in simplistic answers so they can blame a certain group and vocally moan, even though they're often part of the problem. There are other factors aswell, such as game devs not making games more visually complicated anymore, review hype/focus on high frequency gaming & VR (driven by gamers playing mostly FPS titles and others that fit this niche), and just the basic nature of current 3D tech being a natural fit for mining algorithms (shaders, etc.) In theory there is a strong market opportunity for a completely new approach to 3D gfx, a different arch, a proper GPU (modern cards are not GPUs; their visual abilities are literally the lowest priority), because atm the cards AMD/NVIDIA are producing are far more lucratively targeted at Enterprise and AI, not gamers; the latter just get the scraps off the table now, something The Good Old Gamer nicely explained a few months ago with a pertinent clip from NVIDIA:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkeKx-L_E-o
When was the last time a card review article even mentioned new visual features for 3D effects? It's been many years. Gamers are not playing games that need new features, they're pushing for high refresh displays (a shift enhanced by freesync/gsync adoption) so game devs aren't adding new features as that would make launch reviews look bad (we'll never have another Crysis in that way again), and meanwhile the products themselves are mathematically ideal for crypto mining tasks, a problem which makes (as the above chap says) both the AIBs and AMD/NVIDIA very reluctant to increase supply as that would create a huge supply glut once the mining craze shifts and the current cards get dumped, damaging newer product lines (miners have no brand loyalty, and AIBs can't risk the unsold stock potential, though in the meantime they'll happily sell to miners directly).
I notice toms has several articles about mining atm. I hope AT doesn't follow suit. I didn't read the articles, but I bet they don't cover the total environmental cost re the massive e-waste generated by mining conglomerates. I'd rather tech sites that say they care about their readers didn't encourage this mining craze, but then it's a bandwagon many want to jump on while the rewards appear attractive. Ironically, at least LLT is doing a piece intended to show just how much of a con some of these mining setups can be.
boozed - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Magic beansStevoLincolnite - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
I bought my RX 580 for $400AUD almost a year ago. It actually hit $700 AUD at one point. Was nuts.Normally I would buy two... But this is the first time I have gone single GPU since the Radeon x800 days where you needed a master GPU.
The costs are just out of control. Glad I am only running a 1440P display so I don't need super high-end hardware.
IGTrading - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
What I find the most interesting is that AMD Fury X absolutely destroys the GeForce 980 in absolutely all benches :) .I guess all those nVIDIA buyers feel swindled now ....
Dr. Swag - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Fury x always was faster than a 980DnaAngel - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link
Heck my old R9 390 would match or outperform the 980 in a good amount of titles. Which was always comical, as the 390 was supposed to compete with the 970, which it did at launch with launch drivers, but after a few months of driver improvements, it was going toe to toe with not the 970, but the 980 lol.masouth - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Either I'm just missing your sarcasm or you are dredging up 2.5 year old GPU news regarding the Fury X being faster than a GPU released 9 months before it while simultaneously ignoring that the GTX 980ti which was released 2 weeks before the Fury X was faster than the Fury X?Sounds like another day in the world of GPUs. Anybody that thinks buying the top tier is going to stay there for much more than 6-12 months either caught the market at the absolute perfect time or is basically delusional.
masouth - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
and yes I realize you are commenting on the charts but how data ends up on charts seems like old news as well.Makaveli - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
So winning by 3-5 fps in a game is destroying now??nice troll bait.
CiccioB - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
You made my day... comparing the Fury X with the 980 to signa point... wait.. the new flagship Vega64 is faster than the 1050Ti!!!!!!!!!Yes, all 1050Ti owners are crying out for that result!
AMD fanboys can really become ridiculous
BurntMyBacon - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
I completely agree that the Fury X vs 980 is a bad comparison and I have no intention of defending what should not be defended.Regarding ridiculousness however, the 980 is a single SKU below the proper competition (980Ti) and still in the same high end classification. While not the case here, there have often in the past been price disparities between the top end SKUs from ATi and nVidia that warrant such a comparison.
1080Ti > 1080 > 1070Ti > 1070 > 1060 > 1050Ti
N/A > Vega64 > Vega56 > N/A > 580 > 570
On the other hand, your Vega64 vs 1050Ti comparison is pitting AMDs top GPU against a card 5 SKUs below nVidia's top GPU (4 SKUs below the proper competition) and classified lower mid range at best. Then you proceed to suggest these comparisons are somehow similar and label IGTrading as a "ridiculous" AMD fanboy. IGTrading's comparison was certainly the wrong comparison, but who's more deserving of the "ridiculous fanboy" label?
DnaAngel - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link
That analogy doesn't really work. Maybe in 4K, but only a small fraction of users are at 4K right now. The majority are in 1080/1440p and at those resolutions, the 1070Ti is not only trading blows, but sometimes outperforming not the Vega 56 it was meant to compete against, but the 800 dollar Vega 64.Jad77 - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
...the Lights and Sensors and the weirdest graphics card cosmetics I've ever seen. Why didn't EVGA use the new 1080 ti shrouds? Whatever, I've gone without Pascal this long I'm waiting for Volta.Gunbuster - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
I'm confused on that as well. It's got a half-hearted Tron sorta thing going on with the light diffusers, but then has the steampunk rivet looking screw things, then the dollar store electronics looking badges laid over and blocking two of the lights...Stuka87 - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Good to see a GPU review up! Shame they are all impossible to buy for anything close to MSRP.matt321 - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
I believe there's an error in the first chart. The 1070 TI FE has a 1x 8pin power, not 1x 6pin.damianrobertjones - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Once again: I don't really care about the max fps achieved by these cards, although nice to have, as I'm FAR more interested in the minimum rates. Can the cards maintain a healthy 60 fps, at all times, or do they dip (it low)? Etc.milkod2001 - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
at 1440p yes, it canTitanX - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Guess my 580 will continue to soldier on the the time being..even in my next system build.dave_the_nerd - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
A 970 would have been a nice addition to the benchmarks, since it was an incredibly common gaming card and the 1070 family is the logical upgrade path.Love your work though! :-)
CiccioB - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
A 980Ti would look nice too in those charts...b1gtuna - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Wait, 1080 costs $1K USD? I bought one at $650 in December...Le Québécois - Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - link
Same, I bought one for S550 just before Christmas. The funny thing is that I wasn't planning on a 1080, I wanted the 1070 but the price difference was only $50, probably because it was already being affected by the shortage.Seeing I was replacing a 6yo HD 7970, I'd say it's a good thing I didn't wait any longer.
Lord of the Bored - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
Man, I was GOING to upgrade back in early December, but I didn't like the pricing situation and was gonna wait a week or two for the next funnybux crash to drive prices back down....
Yeah, that didn't work out so well.
Le Québécois - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
I had been looking at the price for the GTX 1070/1070ti/1080 VEGA56/64 since early November. It's only the week before Christmas that I saw a slight price drop on some of the GTX 1080 on Amazon.ca. I was lucky enough to get a MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G for $550.By the time I installed it a week later, it was already back above $700... and it only got worst from that point on.
I really hope your current card isn't as old as my 7970 was.
The funny/sad thing for me now is that I'm still only using a good old 12 yo 22" 1680x1050 monitor and almost all of the good 27" 2560x1440 are sold out near me right now :(.
CplShawn - Thursday, February 1, 2018 - link
I was still using my GTX580 until last week when it finally died. I got a 950 from a coworker for $40, and it's doing okay, the fan is very loud. I was looking forward to getting a 1080Ti, but there is no way in heck that I'm going to pay current prices.Lord of the Bored - Friday, February 2, 2018 - link
I've got a Radeon 380, 4 gig.I wouldn't even be looking to update right now if I hadn't grabbed a Rift during the summer sale. That bumped me just outside my comfort zone, which is a shame since it turns out I REALLY like VR.
Oh well, it is still servicable. I can stalling for a little more time.
DnaAngel - Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - link
And now you can get a 1080 for $550-$575 lol. It's all over the place.Crazyeyeskillah - Monday, February 5, 2018 - link
Can't wait to pay 800$+ for this card.DnaAngel - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
The 1070Ti is marketed to compete with the Vega 56? Heck, in a good bit of these benchmarks, esp at 1440p, the 1070Ti is neck and neck with not the Vega 56, but the Vega 64, which is almost 2x the price LOL.And yet as of writing this, AMD still has the 56 at $630 and the 64 at $800. Just bought a GTX 1070Ti for $475 2 days ago to replace my R9 390 that just died.
DnaAngel - Monday, May 21, 2018 - link
I want what AMD is smoking. For the current price of a Vega 64, you can get a 1080Ti lol. Or you can save a few hundred and get a $475 1070Ti that matches or outperforms Vega 64 at 1080/1440p in most titles hahaha.