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  • eek2121 - Thursday, March 22, 2018 - link

    You guys should pay closer attention to the quality of MSI motherboards. Especially how buggy their UEFI/BIOS is. For instance, 6 BIOS releases in a row on my x399 had bugs like overclocking values not saving unless you hit enter, broken fan profiles that didn't work, etc.
  • halcyon - Friday, March 23, 2018 - link

    Agreed. Have a Z370 MSi board and the UEFI/BIOS is a far cry from Asus or Asrock...
  • Joe Shields - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link

    I can only report on what I tested and my experiences in testing them. I did not experience any of those issues in my testing time.
  • hansmuff - Thursday, March 22, 2018 - link

    Thank you for pointing out the terrible heatsink. In this price class, IMHO that makes it a no-go.
  • gammaray - Thursday, March 22, 2018 - link

    is there a point in buying that platform when the 8700k is king of gaming?
  • mkaibear - Friday, March 23, 2018 - link

    There are plenty of points in buying that platform. It makes for excellent workstations, the added parallelism over an 8700K makes it worthwhile if you're doing anything reasonably threaded but requiring decent single-core performance as well.

    Of course Threadripper has taken a chunk of the workstation space higher up, so there's less of a point than there was when it was launched, but not everyone only does gaming on their system.

    (also if you are using a system for content creation or compiling at home, and you need a large number of cores but still want a system which will have decent performance in the latest games, there's a use case in there too)

    But yes, if you want a pure gaming system then you'd go for one of the core iX-8x00s.

    (I wouldn't go for an 8700k purely for gaming to be honest, I'd go for an i5-8400 probably and spend the extra money on a better graphics card)
  • PeachNCream - Friday, March 23, 2018 - link

    MSI is marketing this motherboard for gaming which is explained in the product name X299M Gaming Pro Carbon AC. It makes the question being asked a valid one.
  • mkaibear - Friday, March 23, 2018 - link

    I didn't question the validity of the question. I merely answered it!
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  • MDD1963 - Friday, March 23, 2018 - link

    Would there be some advantage paying about $600-$800 extra for an X299/7900X- based gaming system over a Z370/8700K system? For gaming? Only thing even more silly is TR4/1950X....
  • mkaibear - Friday, March 23, 2018 - link

    >Would there be some advantage paying about $600-$800 extra for an X299/7900X- based gaming system over a Z370/8700K system?

    That's two questions. Advantage paying extra for the X299 system: yes (memory speed / cores / PCIe lanes / a few other things)

    Advantage buying it as a gaming system? No.
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