And you win dumbest comment of the day... You should think before you speak. This drive is overall the fastest and most responsive solid-state drive available. It also doesn't slow when the drive nears capacity.
Also anyone who has dealt with Samsung warranty support might not buy another one of their products.
5 year warranty for the 960 pro. I just tried to use it in Canada. They force you to go to Newegg. Newegg says why are you asking us, it is a manufacturers warranty. 2 weeks later and after phone, text, and email... Samsung still refusing. Their customer support is trained to stall and not provide warranty coverage.
A lot of people with professional purposes other than a speedy gaming PC will care. Optane drives are expensive but they have high endurance, hit peak performance at lower queue depth and with good consistency. My testing shows them to be well suited for things like cache drives in Windows Storage Spaces or Ceph journals.
I care very much. I'm quite pleased that Intel said "more capacities coming soon" and they didn't just speak the words and wait a year for bigger drives. We'll have to see how long it really takes of course, but this is positive information. As far as caring about this drive? It redefines both durability and speed on a scale that truly makes it "next gen". Of course some may not care about that. That's ok. But plenty of us know when "leap products" come and why they are important to an upgrade plan.
Well they've maxed out the 25W power budget allowed for an x4/8 card. Meaning we won't see a 2TB version unless they either reduce overall power consumption somewhere/how (presumably gen2 storage or controller chips), go all the way to x16, or add an external power connector to the card.
X4 PCIE slots aren't that common, typically you have x1 and x16, not a big issue to put the card on a x16 slot; the external power supply isn't a problem either.
x4 isn't common on consumer boards, but is more common than x16 on server ones if the LGA-2011v3 x2 board I looked at on Newegg are representative. I eyeball it as about 2/3rds x4, 1/3 x16, with x1 being MIA. Only being able to install 2 or 3 cards instead of 6 would be problematic for the crapton of fast storage servers the biggest capacities of these are likely to go into.
Anyone have any real world experience on how this drive works large Visual Studio projects? Compiling and loading etc... I'd buy one for each of my developers if I can reduce compile times down. Just cant seem to find real hard numbers on this.
Also very interested in compile time for large projects, on Linux with gcc.
Really curious to hear how Linux IO polling mode affects large compile jobs. Apparently these drives are so fast that it's a net win for the driver to just wait, rather than going to all the usual trouble of scheduling and later responding to an interrupt.
If anyone from AnandTech is reading, please consider publishing software compile benchmarks. There's a lot of "pro users" who develop software, where the cost of faster hardware to speed up compiling code is pretty easy to justify.
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Ahnilated - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
This stuff is about 3 years late to market if not more. Who really cares about it?Flunk - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
Anyone who wants the fastest available consumer SSD?Ahnilated - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
If they wanted the fastest system they would get an NVME drive. They are cheaper and better.woggs - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
This is an nvme drive.extide - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
These are NVMe and blow away any other SSD in heavy workloads, it's like not even fair... (Yeah even Samsung)BigAnvil - Saturday, December 16, 2017 - link
And you win dumbest comment of the day... You should think before you speak. This drive is overall the fastest and most responsive solid-state drive available. It also doesn't slow when the drive nears capacity.BvO - Wednesday, December 20, 2017 - link
Hahahaha, never change! You do you!Alistair - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
Also anyone who has dealt with Samsung warranty support might not buy another one of their products.5 year warranty for the 960 pro. I just tried to use it in Canada. They force you to go to Newegg. Newegg says why are you asking us, it is a manufacturers warranty. 2 weeks later and after phone, text, and email... Samsung still refusing. Their customer support is trained to stall and not provide warranty coverage.
See this thread:
https://forums.redflagdeals.com/has-anyone-dealt-s...
kingpotnoodle - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
A lot of people with professional purposes other than a speedy gaming PC will care. Optane drives are expensive but they have high endurance, hit peak performance at lower queue depth and with good consistency. My testing shows them to be well suited for things like cache drives in Windows Storage Spaces or Ceph journals.satai - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
It's late and stil the best option for lots of Pros.FXi - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
I care very much. I'm quite pleased that Intel said "more capacities coming soon" and they didn't just speak the words and wait a year for bigger drives. We'll have to see how long it really takes of course, but this is positive information. As far as caring about this drive? It redefines both durability and speed on a scale that truly makes it "next gen". Of course some may not care about that. That's ok. But plenty of us know when "leap products" come and why they are important to an upgrade plan.DanNeely - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
Well they've maxed out the 25W power budget allowed for an x4/8 card. Meaning we won't see a 2TB version unless they either reduce overall power consumption somewhere/how (presumably gen2 storage or controller chips), go all the way to x16, or add an external power connector to the card.Strunf - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
X4 PCIE slots aren't that common, typically you have x1 and x16, not a big issue to put the card on a x16 slot; the external power supply isn't a problem either.DanNeely - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
x4 isn't common on consumer boards, but is more common than x16 on server ones if the LGA-2011v3 x2 board I looked at on Newegg are representative. I eyeball it as about 2/3rds x4, 1/3 x16, with x1 being MIA. Only being able to install 2 or 3 cards instead of 6 would be problematic for the crapton of fast storage servers the biggest capacities of these are likely to go into.mitr - Friday, December 15, 2017 - link
Has anyone tried intel optane with older servers running E5V2?rbarone69 - Wednesday, December 20, 2017 - link
Anyone have any real world experience on how this drive works large Visual Studio projects? Compiling and loading etc... I'd buy one for each of my developers if I can reduce compile times down. Just cant seem to find real hard numbers on this.PaulStoffregen - Thursday, August 2, 2018 - link
Also very interested in compile time for large projects, on Linux with gcc.Really curious to hear how Linux IO polling mode affects large compile jobs. Apparently these drives are so fast that it's a net win for the driver to just wait, rather than going to all the usual trouble of scheduling and later responding to an interrupt.
If anyone from AnandTech is reading, please consider publishing software compile benchmarks. There's a lot of "pro users" who develop software, where the cost of faster hardware to speed up compiling code is pretty easy to justify.