"This showcases one of the downsides of a HEDT system: while other platforms (like Z170) were getting under 100 regularly, the additional featureset of these large platforms results in a higher DPC Latency."
I don't think it's the feature set. It just showcases that Intel failed to optimize for DPC latency with this chipset. eg: z77 good dpc latency, z87 bad, z97 and 170 good... sometimes Intel is on the ball, sometimes it isn't.
OTOH even at 18 I'd've probably been like "Really?!?!?" Other than being brushed aluminum when that was still far from common the case I used for the system built right after my 20th was mundane as they come.
Ditto. Even when I was a teenager I preferred the look of my corporate-class Prolinea or industrial design of a boxy Lian-Li to something with a window and lights. The most adventurous thing I've done is put a LED in my water pump so I can tell when the coolant is flowing.
It has 4, 2 on each side. It's still quad channel so you get the double bandwidth vs the mainstream dual channel CPUs. You're still down 50% on capacity; but between the larger socket size of LGA20xx (AMD Epyc with a ~3500 pin socket is even worse, to the extent that something like half the board for it are the even larger E-ATX form factor that's rarely been used outside of 2 socket boards in the past) and all the extra stuff the bigger CPUs can support there's not enough space on the PCB to do everything that the CPU itself could do on anything smaller than a full ATX. Micro ATX with these CPUs requires picking and choosing what features you need instead of just taking everything.
Basically, if you need more than 32GB of memory, you are better off spending more on a bigger board because the cost of high-density DDR4 will effectively kill any cost savings. ie, 4x8GB DIMMs are substantially cheaper than 2x16GB DIMMs.
On the first page: "This specific review will cover the ASRock X299E-ITX/ac." (probably pasted from said review to this one, which is for an EVGA board)
IMO is an Android application that is accessible on the Android and IOS stages. IMO Messenger is a social communication application like other applications like WhatsApp, BlackBerry Messenger, Hike, and so on. https://imoforpc.co/ https://imoforpc.co/cool-profile-pictures/
It really strikes me as a pricey (~300$) board meant for high-end desktop with boot/post problem can be defined as a "solid choice". Such fragility was not expected, nor accepted, even on the old days of <150$ Socket7 boards and chipsets from Aladdin and VIA. Now, we accept it from a 300$ HEDT board...
"The curious issue I had with the beep codes and getting the system to boot was a somewhat frustrating experience."
"In the end, EVGA has given users a solid choice for a small form factor motherboard."
No they have not. The two sentences cancel each other out and this board should NOT be recommended until EVGA resolves all issues. Just like Gigabyte never fixed the boot/ram issues on my last motherboard.
We worked with EVGA on this and they were not able to reproduce the symptoms I was seeing. Assuming this isn't a problem for others, which we cannot assume - I also didn't see this issue on their forums when I looked back in December, it is a solid choice.
From my experience they have some pretty big quality control issues which is a shame because when I did have this board working, the bios was excellent. Sacrificing an m.2 slot for u.2 when there are only two u.2 drives available and both from Intel, was a poor decision. The "DIY" Wifi is just lazy, same with the IO cover not being installed. This could be a great board I'm sure, but in it's current state it really isn't.
With the latest generation of boards, it seems EVGA has finally got their shit together. In the past, there was always something off about their designs; like they were made for a niche market, of which I was not a part.
What about motherboards for the C422 chipset? Not that this is relevent here but it is hard to find any info. Lenovo is shipping full systems with this chipset soon. I think it would be a nice option for a new handbuilt system.
The only C422 that I have seen is SuperMicro, it's sad that you are now tied to Xeons only with this chipset, for the last generations I have mixed it up with Xeons and i7's, never with ECC ram though.
This board has terrible quality control issues. 2 boards in a row with bent pins. Second board I managed to fix the pins and it was working fine, then suddenly it's only detecting one Dimm. The io cover is missing one of the mounting points. Finally decided to get a refund from Amazon. Won't be buying anything from EVGA again.
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casteve - Friday, February 9, 2018 - link
"This showcases one of the downsides of a HEDT system: while other platforms (like Z170) were getting under 100 regularly, the additional featureset of these large platforms results in a higher DPC Latency."I don't think it's the feature set. It just showcases that Intel failed to optimize for DPC latency with this chipset. eg: z77 good dpc latency, z87 bad, z97 and 170 good... sometimes Intel is on the ball, sometimes it isn't.
jabber - Friday, February 9, 2018 - link
Excellent, a X299 board for the over 25's!wolfemane - Friday, February 9, 2018 - link
Hey some of us over 25's are kids at heart... and have kids. I love RGB. I'd happily add RGB to a system with this board.DanNeely - Friday, February 9, 2018 - link
OTOH even at 18 I'd've probably been like "Really?!?!?" Other than being brushed aluminum when that was still far from common the case I used for the system built right after my 20th was mundane as they come.Samus - Saturday, February 10, 2018 - link
Ditto. Even when I was a teenager I preferred the look of my corporate-class Prolinea or industrial design of a boxy Lian-Li to something with a window and lights. The most adventurous thing I've done is put a LED in my water pump so I can tell when the coolant is flowing.peevee - Friday, February 9, 2018 - link
Isn't having only 2 memory slots defeats the purpose of X299-compatible CPUs?DanNeely - Friday, February 9, 2018 - link
It has 4, 2 on each side. It's still quad channel so you get the double bandwidth vs the mainstream dual channel CPUs. You're still down 50% on capacity; but between the larger socket size of LGA20xx (AMD Epyc with a ~3500 pin socket is even worse, to the extent that something like half the board for it are the even larger E-ATX form factor that's rarely been used outside of 2 socket boards in the past) and all the extra stuff the bigger CPUs can support there's not enough space on the PCB to do everything that the CPU itself could do on anything smaller than a full ATX. Micro ATX with these CPUs requires picking and choosing what features you need instead of just taking everything.Samus - Saturday, February 10, 2018 - link
Basically, if you need more than 32GB of memory, you are better off spending more on a bigger board because the cost of high-density DDR4 will effectively kill any cost savings. ie, 4x8GB DIMMs are substantially cheaper than 2x16GB DIMMs.cosmotic - Friday, February 9, 2018 - link
On the first page: "This specific review will cover the ASRock X299E-ITX/ac." (probably pasted from said review to this one, which is for an EVGA board)Joe Shields - Monday, February 12, 2018 - link
Updated.yousfry - Saturday, February 17, 2018 - link
IMO is an Android application that is accessible on the Android and IOS stages. IMO Messenger is a social communication application like other applications like WhatsApp, BlackBerry Messenger, Hike, and so on.https://imoforpc.co/
https://imoforpc.co/cool-profile-pictures/
shodanshok - Saturday, February 10, 2018 - link
It really strikes me as a pricey (~300$) board meant for high-end desktop with boot/post problem can be defined as a "solid choice". Such fragility was not expected, nor accepted, even on the old days of <150$ Socket7 boards and chipsets from Aladdin and VIA. Now, we accept it from a 300$ HEDT board...damianrobertjones - Saturday, February 10, 2018 - link
"The curious issue I had with the beep codes and getting the system to boot was a somewhat frustrating experience.""In the end, EVGA has given users a solid choice for a small form factor motherboard."
No they have not. The two sentences cancel each other out and this board should NOT be recommended until EVGA resolves all issues. Just like Gigabyte never fixed the boot/ram issues on my last motherboard.
Joe Shields - Monday, February 12, 2018 - link
We worked with EVGA on this and they were not able to reproduce the symptoms I was seeing. Assuming this isn't a problem for others, which we cannot assume - I also didn't see this issue on their forums when I looked back in December, it is a solid choice.Chann3l - Thursday, March 1, 2018 - link
From my experience they have some pretty big quality control issues which is a shame because when I did have this board working, the bios was excellent. Sacrificing an m.2 slot for u.2 when there are only two u.2 drives available and both from Intel, was a poor decision. The "DIY" Wifi is just lazy, same with the IO cover not being installed. This could be a great board I'm sure, but in it's current state it really isn't.Jad77 - Saturday, February 10, 2018 - link
With the latest generation of boards, it seems EVGA has finally got their shit together. In the past, there was always something off about their designs; like they were made for a niche market, of which I was not a part.damianrobertjones - Sunday, February 11, 2018 - link
Eh?"The curious issue I had with the beep codes and getting the system to boot was a somewhat frustrating experience."
GTVic - Saturday, February 10, 2018 - link
What about motherboards for the C422 chipset? Not that this is relevent here but it is hard to find any info. Lenovo is shipping full systems with this chipset soon. I think it would be a nice option for a new handbuilt system.Ytterbium - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - link
The only C422 that I have seen is SuperMicro, it's sad that you are now tied to Xeons only with this chipset, for the last generations I have mixed it up with Xeons and i7's, never with ECC ram though.Drazick - Saturday, February 10, 2018 - link
I really prefer having only 4 DIMM slots than 8 in x299.It allows better performance (Signal Integrity wise).
Wish more MB would chose this.
Ytterbium - Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - link
Could you review the MSI board that takes the LCC/HCC chips, the one that takes only the i5 and i7 isn't intrestingrolandswan - Monday, February 26, 2018 - link
Thanks for giving this motherboard information http://www.webhosting1dollar.com/ is my website for purchasing web hosting service.Chann3l - Thursday, March 1, 2018 - link
This board has terrible quality control issues. 2 boards in a row with bent pins. Second board I managed to fix the pins and it was working fine, then suddenly it's only detecting one Dimm. The io cover is missing one of the mounting points. Finally decided to get a refund from Amazon. Won't be buying anything from EVGA again.