Any chance that you guys will review it? I’m curious how the components would perform since there likely isn’t as much thermal headroom versus a standard desktop machine.
The rumors are that the inferior surface temperature on this model is more than 10 degrees Celsius lower than on the other ASUS ROG offerings with Intel's 8core Skylake.
It's nice to see an AMD notebook which is cooler and way more powerful than its Intel-based counterpart.
Why, ASUS, WHY?! The CPU would make sense. It would. Hook up a big pipe (like ROG team does on GPUs) and you get a killer CPU performance. But using one of the most horrible GPUs ever made to power this beast? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
Pair this thing with a 1060 6GB or 1070 and it would have been a match made in Heaven. I seriously don't know what ASUS is thinking from time to time. This is just plain dumb.
Considering that the RX 580 in this laptop is restricted to 68W but still performs pretty much on par with GTX 1060 in actual games, and even surpasses it in some DX12 titles... your statement seems to be one made in ignorance and potential bias.
The only reason the RX 580 desktop seems inefficient is because its made on a manuf. process not suited for higher clock speeds. Asus could have easily restricted the RX 580 in this laptop to 80W like GTX 1060 usually is, and would still squeeze out MORE performance out of it using same or better efficiency.
Horrible gpus ever? There is far worse gpus out there bud. Besides you no at this resolution the 580 will tackle any game on ultra at 60 fps. You know how graphics cards work right?
Ellesmere on that 14nm process actually becomes WAY more efficient with lower clocks/voltages. You're basing your statement (which was a bit silly to start with) on desktop cards (mostly non-reference) where power is a secondary concern to things like cost:performance. Also, they are using binned chips.
Personally I hope AMD releases a lower-TDP Ryzen for desktop, maybe 45W. It would be great for SFF desktops and DTR laptops. Ryzen APUs will obviously come in lower TDP variants but they tops out at 4C/8T for this generation.
what the fuck are talking about?I have the Dell Inspiron 15 5576 and this ROG AMD all the way is my dream..all those cores and power ...the ultimate to have for 10+ years to never upgrade....yeah 8)
5 GB GDDR5 would be impossible with a 256 bit bus, so it's probably a typo. Tonga was the GPU rumored to have a 386 bit memory interface but only ever used 256 in products.
"ASUS uses its Hyper Cool Duo-Copper cooling system featuring heat pipes and two fans that are said to cool down the CPU and GPU independently."
I don't think that "independently" is an advantage. I'd rather have both fans cool a common heatsink (easy to do with heat pipes), so when only the CPU is under heavy load the system is either more quiet (2 moderate fans vs. 1 at high speed) or gains cooling ability (8-core Ryzen can make good use of more than 65 W).
8 core 16 thread processor and only 32gb ram? If this is for gamming you do not need 8 cores. If this is for workstation you need 64 GB like the ThinkPad p51/p71.
If you decide to review this unit, during your battery testing, can you please open up Ryzen master and disable a few cores? If you are on the road, I don't suspect you'll need 8 cores active and would rather extend battery life.
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MonkeyPaw - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
Any chance that you guys will review it? I’m curious how the components would perform since there likely isn’t as much thermal headroom versus a standard desktop machine.IGTrading - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
You need to review it Ian. :) You know you do!We're curious as well.
I'm a bit disappointed that ASUS didn't include an interchangeable DVD-RW drive as well.
Also, I have no idea why that's just a SATA SSD and not a more up to date solution. I find no reason for this.
Another bizarre thing is the fact that they've used a smaller battery when compare with the other ROG notebooks.
I know this makes it a bit lighter, but I would have happily taken those extra 200 grams for an extra hour of battery life despite this being a DTR.
ASUS made some weird design choices on this one ....
DanNeely - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
The SATA SSD is probably so that they can offer RAID0 SSD and HDD configurations using the same chassis without needing 2 2.5" bays and 2 m.2 slots.IGTrading - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
The rumors are that the inferior surface temperature on this model is more than 10 degrees Celsius lower than on the other ASUS ROG offerings with Intel's 8core Skylake.It's nice to see an AMD notebook which is cooler and way more powerful than its Intel-based counterpart.
itsjustaprankbro - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
Why, ASUS, WHY?!The CPU would make sense. It would. Hook up a big pipe (like ROG team does on GPUs) and you get a killer CPU performance. But using one of the most horrible GPUs ever made to power this beast? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
Pair this thing with a 1060 6GB or 1070 and it would have been a match made in Heaven. I seriously don't know what ASUS is thinking from time to time. This is just plain dumb.
DanNeely - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
I suspect AMD may be sponsoring this model in some way shape or form.Agent Smith - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
Freesync needs an AMD GPU so its a great match.Also they’ve already got plenty of nVidia laptops already.
deksman2 - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
Considering that the RX 580 in this laptop is restricted to 68W but still performs pretty much on par with GTX 1060 in actual games, and even surpasses it in some DX12 titles... your statement seems to be one made in ignorance and potential bias.The only reason the RX 580 desktop seems inefficient is because its made on a manuf. process not suited for higher clock speeds.
Asus could have easily restricted the RX 580 in this laptop to 80W like GTX 1060 usually is, and would still squeeze out MORE performance out of it using same or better efficiency.
Fhp - Thursday, November 23, 2017 - link
Horrible gpus ever? There is far worse gpus out there bud. Besides you no at this resolution the 580 will tackle any game on ultra at 60 fps. You know how graphics cards work right?Try some research before saying somthing assinine
Alexvrb - Thursday, November 23, 2017 - link
Ellesmere on that 14nm process actually becomes WAY more efficient with lower clocks/voltages. You're basing your statement (which was a bit silly to start with) on desktop cards (mostly non-reference) where power is a secondary concern to things like cost:performance. Also, they are using binned chips.Personally I hope AMD releases a lower-TDP Ryzen for desktop, maybe 45W. It would be great for SFF desktops and DTR laptops. Ryzen APUs will obviously come in lower TDP variants but they tops out at 4C/8T for this generation.
agenthunk - Saturday, April 7, 2018 - link
what the fuck are talking about?I have the Dell Inspiron 15 5576 and this ROG AMD all the way is my dream..all those cores and power ...the ultimate to have for 10+ years to never upgrade....yeah 8)Cooe - Friday, April 23, 2021 - link
I know this is ancient, but holy CRAP what a freaking idiot you are... O_oDanNeely - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
Is the 5GB of ram with the RX580 a typo, or is this a special model?MrSpadge - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
5 GB GDDR5 would be impossible with a 256 bit bus, so it's probably a typo. Tonga was the GPU rumored to have a 386 bit memory interface but only ever used 256 in products.Ryan Smith - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
Why not both?(Yes, it's a typo. Thanks!)
MrSpadge - Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - link
"ASUS uses its Hyper Cool Duo-Copper cooling system featuring heat pipes and two fans that are said to cool down the CPU and GPU independently."I don't think that "independently" is an advantage. I'd rather have both fans cool a common heatsink (easy to do with heat pipes), so when only the CPU is under heavy load the system is either more quiet (2 moderate fans vs. 1 at high speed) or gains cooling ability (8-core Ryzen can make good use of more than 65 W).
sharath.naik - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
8 core 16 thread processor and only 32gb ram? If this is for gamming you do not need 8 cores. If this is for workstation you need 64 GB like the ThinkPad p51/p71.ImperfectLink - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
If you decide to review this unit, during your battery testing, can you please open up Ryzen master and disable a few cores? If you are on the road, I don't suspect you'll need 8 cores active and would rather extend battery life.RKrupski - Friday, February 23, 2018 - link
"The notebook relies on a a couple different" .... how did the editor not catch that?